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[A Drowned Kernel]

Has anyone else had this problem? It just happened to me, I'm way past the point where it should have timed out. Could be a one-time thing, though.

[SCSN]

I experienced something like this ~1.5 years ago. I'd like to say that I'm surprised it still isn't fixed, but... who would believe me?

[yed]

I did, you still get ranking points for the game. Same when he resigns.

It is also posible to see the game end in javascript console.

[Titandrake]

Don't worry, it's better than the alternative! If I remember correctly, when Goko first released Possession, there was an amusing bug - if you Possessed someone, then resigned on their turn, it counted as a win for you.

To be fair, that got fixed pretty fast.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Well Possession does say you "make all decisions for them", so following the text on the card, you should be able to make them decide to resign.

[jaybeez]

Well Possession does say you "make all decisions for them", so following the text on the card, you should be able to make them decide to resign.

Suddenly I thought of Ashnod's Coupon...

[popsofctown]

In Magic the Gathering, conceding is a specific action referred to by the game rules defined in a similar way to your other legal actions ennumerated by the rules.  If it's your main phase and no spells are on the stack, the legal actions the game has to offer you are playing a land, playing a spell, or conceding, plus a bunch of other things.   If your opponent has just played a split-second spell, your only two legal actions would be activating a mana ability or conceding.

So for MtG's Possession, Mindslaver, it requires a specific rule to keep Mindslavering someone and then resigning them from being a legal move.  And that rule is there, in the comprehensive rules.


In Dominion, conceding is not a specific action referred to by the game rules, no player is ever given permission by the rules to concede.  Being able to concede a game of Dominion is a house rule, really.  If you're incorporating that variant rule into Dominion, then indeed Possession should let you win the game that way, unless you make another variant rule to keep people from doing that, which is probably a good additional variant rule as far as variant rulemaking is concerned.

Technically winning a game because you possessed your opponent and made them concede and winning a game because your opponent simply conceded are equally variant and not-dominion.  (And all the goko games are not-dominion because you can't see the top card of the discard pile, to be clear.)

[blueblimp]

In Dominion, conceding is not a specific action referred to by the game rules, no player is ever given permission by the rules to concede.

Dang. So isotropic's somewhat iffy implementation of resigning was actually truer to the rules than GokoDominion Online's good resigning support. #IsotropicWasBetter?

[blueblimp]

(And all the goko games are not-dominion because you can't see the top card of the discard pile, to be clear.)

You can see the top of the discard pile in Dominion Online. (Click on your opponent's portrait to pop it out, and it's the face-up card there.) It's just that you can't pick which card of yours goes on top, which in a way is less accurate, because it is a legal maneuver in real-life play to stick your in-play cards on top of your in-hand cards as you discard during the clean-up phase, avoiding revealing any information at all unless you have no cards in play, so the rule is actually irrelevant to skilled players except in edge cases. Quoting the rules, bolding mine:

Although the player need not show the cards remaining in his hand to his opponents, since he places the cards in the Discard pile face-up, his opponents will always be able to see the top-most card of his Discard pile.

Edit: Actually I'm a little less sure whether the rules allow for the in-play cards to be combined with the in-hand cards before being discarded. It depends on whether the "and" in this sentence implies an ordering and whether the in-play and in-hand cards can be discarded together as an atomic action or have to be discarded group-by-group:

The player places any cards that are in his play area (Action cards that have been played in the Action phase as well as Treasure cards that have been played in the Buy phase) and any cards remaining in his hand onto his Discard pile.

[qmech]

(And all the goko games are not-dominion because you can't see the top card of the discard pile, to be clear.)

You can see the top of the discard pile in Dominion Online. (Click on your opponent's portrait to pop it out, and it's the face-up card there.)

That shows some card, but is it the correct one?  It seems that the top card of your discard pile doesn't always correspond to what should be there.

[Deadlock39]

I believe, the discard pile sometimes shows the wrong card, but if you click on it to see the big version, it will change to the correct card.

[Rubby]

In Dominion, conceding is not a specific action referred to by the game rules, no player is ever given permission by the rules to concede.  Being able to concede a game of Dominion is a house rule, really.  If you're incorporating that variant rule into Dominion, then indeed Possession should let you win the game that way, unless you make another variant rule to keep people from doing that, which is probably a good additional variant rule as far as variant rulemaking is concerned.

Actually, quitting a game - just like starting a game - is your right as a free human being. (The "Resign" button just provides a more graceful alternative to closing your browser or forcibly shutting down your computer.) You don't need a "variant rule" to prohibit making your opponent quit, any more than you need a variant rule to prohibit making your opponent give you their social security number, credit cards and bank passwords. These are all equally outside the scope of the game rules.

[popsofctown]

In Dominion, conceding is not a specific action referred to by the game rules, no player is ever given permission by the rules to concede.  Being able to concede a game of Dominion is a house rule, really.  If you're incorporating that variant rule into Dominion, then indeed Possession should let you win the game that way, unless you make another variant rule to keep people from doing that, which is probably a good additional variant rule as far as variant rulemaking is concerned.

Actually, quitting a game - just like starting a game - is your right as a free human being. (The "Resign" button just provides a more graceful alternative to closing your browser or forcibly shutting down your computer.) You don't need a "variant rule" to prohibit making your opponent quit, any more than you need a variant rule to prohibit making your opponent give you their social security number, credit cards and bank passwords. These are all equally outside the scope of the game rules.

You definitely need some kind of variant rule to assign a player who quit a loss.  Winning or losing is very much within the scope of the game rules.

Possession certainly doesn't keep someone from walking away from a table with Dominion cards on it and going about their business.  But still technically neither player can concede the game, you're still a participant to it in perpetuity.  It's like Jumanji.

[Rubby]

In Dominion, conceding is not a specific action referred to by the game rules, no player is ever given permission by the rules to concede.  Being able to concede a game of Dominion is a house rule, really.  If you're incorporating that variant rule into Dominion, then indeed Possession should let you win the game that way, unless you make another variant rule to keep people from doing that, which is probably a good additional variant rule as far as variant rulemaking is concerned.

Actually, quitting a game - just like starting a game - is your right as a free human being. (The "Resign" button just provides a more graceful alternative to closing your browser or forcibly shutting down your computer.) You don't need a "variant rule" to prohibit making your opponent quit, any more than you need a variant rule to prohibit making your opponent give you their social security number, credit cards and bank passwords. These are all equally outside the scope of the game rules.

You definitely need some kind of variant rule to assign a player who quit a loss.  Winning or losing is very much within the scope of the game rules.

Possession certainly doesn't keep someone from walking away from a table with Dominion cards on it and going about their business.  But still technically neither player can concede the game, you're still a participant to it in perpetuity.  It's like Jumanji.

Yes, you can certainly call assigning the loss to a quitting player a "variant rule" (although that's a pretty universal standard, common-sense, not-specific-to-Dominion-Online thing). But it does not logically follow that Possession should let you make your opponent quit. Quitting is not a decision that falls within the parameters of playing one's turn, so there's no basis for considering it a Possession-able act.