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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #175 on: February 02, 2015, 05:58:09 pm »

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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #176 on: February 02, 2015, 06:03:50 pm »

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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #177 on: February 02, 2015, 06:04:20 pm »

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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #178 on: February 02, 2015, 06:04:51 pm »

Also welcome e!
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #179 on: February 02, 2015, 06:05:13 pm »

Is he scum here?

Yes.

No.

e, what's the case on Hydrad ?

I don't think there is a case at all.

Somehow I feel like you're not best qualified to answer that question though.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #180 on: February 02, 2015, 06:06:14 pm »

Hmm having people swap out mid game is weird. I guess e feels slight towny to me though just through littleB's actions.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #181 on: February 02, 2015, 06:07:31 pm »

Somehow I feel like you're not best qualified to answer that question though.

Don't worry I'm not biased at all.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #182 on: February 02, 2015, 06:11:05 pm »

Strange, but okay.

I still feel good about the arch lynch, partially because he does feel different from normal. Also it seems like he got really quiet when he got pressure on him. Is he VLA?
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #183 on: February 02, 2015, 06:11:37 pm »

Doesn't look like it, so yeah.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #184 on: February 02, 2015, 06:12:09 pm »

Hi guys.  So....important stuff when I did a reread after being asked to sub in.

Alright.

I'm a Town Protector

During the day, I can type protect : CalignoBot (or whomever) and that player becomes loved, meaning you'd need one more vote to lynch them. It's like a vote, in that I can change it whenever I want, I can even not protect at all. I can do it on myself, but if I do I lose my power at the start of the next day.

Thoughts ?

This is cool.  Seems townie enough to me.

Vote: Teproc because he is actually a scum-protector.

Haven't played with you before.  You have been mislynched early in other games though, right?  I guess I won't just vote you for no reason.

Yes, i was lynched on day1 in Newbie-Mafia and on day3 in Musical Mafia (and i played Lost-Mafia...)

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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #185 on: February 02, 2015, 06:20:15 pm »

Also welcome e!

hmmmm.  Hydrad is being friendly.  unvote.  I will look back over things later (while I am not in the middle of a dominion game with Monsieur X).  Can someone put down a good summary of the Archetype case?
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #186 on: February 02, 2015, 06:21:57 pm »

Also welcome e!

hmmmm.  Hydrad is being friendly.  unvote.  I will look back over things later (while I am not in the middle of a dominion game with Monsieur X).  Can someone put down a good summary of the Archetype case?

Have you found friendliness to be a towntell for Hydrad ? Why were you voting for him in the first place ?
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #187 on: February 02, 2015, 06:24:36 pm »

As I see it, he was posting a lot and acting somewhat nervous at the start of the game (he gave a reads list in like his fifth post), when I voted for him he kind of OMGUS'd by going back to something I posted earlier that he hadn't found suspicious before I voted for him, and now he's quiet. I don't know, anything else? It's not super substantial but I like it for a day one case.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #188 on: February 02, 2015, 06:24:50 pm »

That's referring to Arch btw.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #189 on: February 02, 2015, 07:45:14 pm »

Hi, sorry for taking so long to get back to this. I had a packed weekend. Rereading now.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #190 on: February 02, 2015, 07:58:28 pm »

Okay, here's the issues I have with Archetype's play right now.

1. Awaclus votes him and makes a case. Archetype's response? Completely ignored it. After Teproc votes Awaclus and states that he's basically taking Archetype's side in that engagement, he decides that's a good time to engage.
2. Directly affiliated with the above: he goes into his read on Teproc again here, but the way he goes about it is bizarre. He admits immediately that it could have been done from town or mafia, but goes into a lengthy explanation as to why it's anti-town. This in itself wouldn't be scummy, but he has stated recently that the only thing about Teproc that stood out was the claim and another separate post stated that Teproc is his biggest scumread. This is not only being wishy washy, but it feels like it was manufactured to try to keep Teproc from turning on him while keeping his lynch options open.

Those two points, when put together, make me think he's more concerned about his self-image than scumhunting.

3. Minor point, but it bugs me how he knows he got sheeped, but doesn't show any reaction to it whatsoever. It looks more like he wanted to distance himself from a wagon he started after it got going, but didn't want to actively try to sabotage it.

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Point 2: anti-town =/= scum. However, in Teproc's case, where I know his meta enough to know that he wouldn't be anti-town as Town, I have to go with him being scum. Fair point on me being wishy-washy on Teproc because, besides the claim, I'm getting a Towny-ish vibe.

Point 3: I'm not sure what you mean by sheeped. I never voted for ADK, so I'm not sure how I could have started the wagon.  And I'm not going to "sabotage" it because ADK could be scum. My vote isn't on ADK, however, because I'm more confident in Teproc.

The reactions on Caligno Bot's case are what I expected (Teproc opposes and ADK/Awaclus Support), but I'm interested in what everyone else has to say. Especially Jimmmmm who seems to kind of be egging it on with his "[quickharmers are a] great way to catch scum" comment.

Still feeling towny on littleb/e. 'Harassment' doesn't seem to be something that scum would do, but there was renioe. But e hasn't done anything to change that read since he subbed in.



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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #191 on: February 02, 2015, 09:18:29 pm »

Honestly I don't know what to think of arche.

He feels towny and scummy at the same time if thats possible. I guess that means hes a null read right now?

I guess towny because it looks like hes actively scum hunting but at the same time scummy because it feels like hes forcing points almost.

It feels like hes a bit too sure for day 1 but I can't tell if thats just a towny confident archetype or a scummy archetype.

Have I not played many games with you arch? I remember dice mafia and that bastard game.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #192 on: February 02, 2015, 10:56:47 pm »

And the winner for hedgiest post in a mafia game goes to...!
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #193 on: February 02, 2015, 10:59:45 pm »

And the winner for hedgiest post in a mafia game goes to...!

Hooray! I'm a winner!
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #194 on: February 02, 2015, 11:43:35 pm »

And the winner for hedgiest post in a mafia game goes to...!

Hooray! I'm a winner!

We lynch hedgy people, right?  We used to at least.  vote: hydrad
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #195 on: February 03, 2015, 11:22:56 am »

Vote Count 1.8

Teproc (1): Archetype
Archetype (3): Awaclus, A Drowned Kernel, CalignoBot
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Awaclus (1): Teproc
A Drowned Kernel (1): Hydrad

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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #196 on: February 03, 2015, 11:27:38 am »

What is up with this game ? It reminds me of the time where every single day would go to deadline and there would be a massive scramble to get a lynch through last minute.

Let's not do that.

Obviously no one else wants to lynch Awaclus. Let's try something else.

vote : A Drowned Kernel
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #197 on: February 03, 2015, 11:38:09 am »

I'm not a huge fan of ADK and Hydrad lynches today.
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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #198 on: February 03, 2015, 03:36:15 pm »

littleB, you are not allowed to post in this thread as you are dead. Your post has been deleted.

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Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #199 on: February 03, 2015, 04:37:51 pm »

Vote: Archetype
That's L-1 I think Archtype is the best lynch atm. He seems relatively scummy and if he turns out to be town we still get good information for day2.
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