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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #575 on: August 16, 2012, 04:23:47 pm »
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #576 on: August 16, 2012, 04:30:36 pm »
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I know, I even went back to BGG for a good 5 mins!
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #577 on: August 16, 2012, 04:32:16 pm »
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I know, I even went back to BGG for a good 5 mins!
Oh god. Their top thread is about an official iOS app release...
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #578 on: August 16, 2012, 05:49:55 pm »
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Me when I'm playing Dark Ages


You can play with dA?
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #579 on: August 16, 2012, 05:51:16 pm »
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Not so much bad luck there as cause and effect...
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #580 on: August 16, 2012, 05:55:08 pm »
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Me when I'm playing Dark Ages

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/234/765/b7e.jpg
You can play with dA?

I did play some of it on goko beta. I had no idea what I was doing then. But ok, maybe a little premature.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #581 on: August 16, 2012, 05:56:28 pm »
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Me when I'm playing Dark Ages

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/234/765/b7e.jpg
You can play with dA?

I did play some of it on goko beta. I had no idea what I was doing then. But ok, maybe a little premature.
*immediately gets on goko* 
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #582 on: August 16, 2012, 05:58:14 pm »
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The BGG community is even less impressed than we are so far...
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #583 on: August 16, 2012, 05:59:27 pm »
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Me when I'm playing Dark Ages

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/234/765/b7e.jpg
You can play with dA?

I did play some of it on goko beta. I had no idea what I was doing then. But ok, maybe a little premature.
*immediately gets on goko*

It's not on there now. Like, before when they were leaked.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #584 on: August 16, 2012, 06:01:10 pm »
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Me when I'm playing Dark Ages

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/234/765/b7e.jpg
You can play with dA?

I did play some of it on goko beta. I had no idea what I was doing then. But ok, maybe a little premature.
*immediately gets on goko*

It's not on there now. Like, before when they were leaked.
NOOOOO!!!!
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #585 on: August 16, 2012, 06:01:53 pm »
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The BGG community is even less impressed than we are so far...

Yeah - that thread is amazing.  We're all used to playing online, so we don't have any of the OMG this isn't native IOS rage, and where is my offline mode.

They don't yet know that you can play all the cards in the supply on turn 1... I wonder how that's going to fly.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #586 on: August 16, 2012, 06:12:15 pm »
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The BGG community is even less impressed than we are so far...

Yeah - that thread is amazing.  We're all used to playing online, so we don't have any of the OMG this isn't native IOS rage, and where is my offline mode.

They don't yet know that you can play all the cards in the supply on turn 1... I wonder how that's going to fly.

Yeah, I really don't understand the "where's my offline mode?" thing.  Like... guys... the AI may be OK but it's not that impressive.  Really.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #587 on: August 16, 2012, 06:14:21 pm »
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I've played lots and lots against the AI. It's not a challenge, but it's still fun.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #588 on: August 16, 2012, 06:17:16 pm »
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Sounds like they took a page from WotC's playbook.  Before the official announcement of 4e, the WotC webpage was replaced with a timer, which counted down to a massive failure as the website crashed from the traffic and couldn't be brought back up for 3-4 days. 
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #589 on: August 16, 2012, 06:26:47 pm »
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Sounds like they took a page from WotC's playbook.  Before the official announcement of 4e, the WotC webpage was replaced with a timer, which counted down to a massive failure as the website crashed from the traffic and couldn't be brought back up for 3-4 days. 

The difference being that with 4e, at least you could buy physical copies of the books.  WOTC's web presence wasn't the core of their business.  Goko's... is.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #590 on: August 16, 2012, 06:35:47 pm »
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Sounds like they took a page from WotC's playbook.  Before the official announcement of 4e, the WotC webpage was replaced with a timer, which counted down to a massive failure as the website crashed from the traffic and couldn't be brought back up for 3-4 days. 

The difference being that with 4e, at least you could buy physical copies of the books.  WOTC's web presence wasn't the core of their business.  Goko's... is.

I hear ya.  I just couldn't help but laugh.  I suppose this is probably more analogous to the launch of an MMO.  I think Diablo II had similar issues as well. 
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #591 on: August 16, 2012, 06:51:40 pm »
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Yeah - that thread is amazing.  We're all used to playing online, so we don't have any of the OMG this isn't native IOS rage, and where is my offline mode.

Also, I assume more of us got to taste the beta than them.

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They don't yet know that you can play all the cards in the supply on turn 1... I wonder how that's going to fly.

Wait, what? o_O
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #592 on: August 16, 2012, 07:02:11 pm »
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I hear ya.  I just couldn't help but laugh.  I suppose this is probably more analogous to the launch of an MMO.  I think Diablo II had similar issues as well.

The problem here is that an MMO involves high-intensity server code and hundreds of thousands of people. This is a card game for which only 7,858 people previously had an account to play online. It's not like they're being inundated with unprecendented traffic that would be sufficient to knock out 90% of sites on the Internet.

edit: Sorry, I sound like a dick. Not to say YOU BLATANTLY FUCKED UP, just saying this isn't the same sort of problem.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #593 on: August 16, 2012, 07:04:35 pm »
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I hear ya.  I just couldn't help but laugh.  I suppose this is probably more analogous to the launch of an MMO.  I think Diablo II had similar issues as well.

The problem here is that an MMO involves high-intensity server code and hundreds of thousands of people. This is a card game for which 7,858 people have ever signed up for an account to play online.
That number is way too low - it's just the number on the iso leaderboard RIGHT NOW. Which doesn't include people from other sites, or people who haven't played in the last X (maybe 7) days. Well more people than that have played dominion online.
On the other hand, yeah, MMOs are waaaaaaaaaay bigger.

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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #594 on: August 16, 2012, 07:05:10 pm »
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The DominionStrategy Forum sympathizes with Goko.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #595 on: August 16, 2012, 07:11:18 pm »
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It's not that their servers are being overloaded or anything like that. Right now, the public can't enter at all, but the private beta is still running smoothly, last I checked.

It's hard to guess what problems they're having. Maybe account registration is having trouble? Or maybe expansion-purchasing is broken, although they could still opt to launch with just the base set in that case.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #596 on: August 16, 2012, 07:17:01 pm »
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Sometimes I forget how pedantic this place can get.
 
Okay, work with me and let's see if we can identify the salient points of the analogy.

The public launch of goko is like the launch of 4e in that they both were announced at GenCon, both directed people to a website and both caused the website to crash.  The public launch of goko differs from the launch of 4e in many material ways, including the fact that they happened in different years, were done by different companies, were different products, and are completely different games.

The public launch of goko is like the launch of an MMO in that they are both software products, subject to heavy traffic at launch, which can cause delays or failures in using the product.   The public launch of goko differs from the launch of an MMO in many material ways, including the fact that MMOs are typically of a much larger scale and have much more complex code.

Nonetheless, I would submit that the salient feature of goko for purposes of the prior posts (it doesn't work) is similar to the salient feature of the WotC website at the 4e announcement (it didn't work) and MMOs at launch (they often don't work), likely due to either (a) unexpectedly high demand for the product or (b) poor preparation for regular demand.  Given that Dominion has helped spawn/inspire an entire sub-segment of games, that there are multiple Dominion clone apps available on various platforms that seem to be doing fairly well, the launch was announced at one of the largest concentrations of their customers on the planet, and that many of us have waited for baited breath for an official version (no disrespect to Iso intended), I suspect that goko is a victim of Dominion's own success.

Edit: Great, and now blueblimp has to go and post something that disproves my snotty post.  Maybe I should listen next time the forum says "someone posted something that makes you sound like an idiot, are you sure you don't want to read it before hitting submit."
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #597 on: August 16, 2012, 07:20:01 pm »
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To be fair, I'm sure they'll have load problems too once it actually opens up.
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #598 on: August 16, 2012, 07:21:55 pm »
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Don't let the pedantry of this place get to you, Taco Lobster :)
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Re: Homage to the Best Card
« Reply #599 on: August 16, 2012, 07:24:03 pm »
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Don't let the pedantry of this place get to you, Taco Lobster :)

You didn't end your sentence with a period.
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