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[Hydrad]

Hydrad says the shot today is between xp and sudgy.  How about we change that to between Hydrad and Axxle2?  I don't know, but I am feeling adventurous today.

sudgy, are we reading the same game ? Regardless of your read on him, I'm pretty sure no one has been pushing Hydrad since early day 2.

This kind of disconnect makes me fear the sudgy lynch quite a bit.

I've been mentioned once on day 2 and it was just recently. So maybe sudgy read that and got confused? I'm not to sure.

[2.71828.....]

yeah, and I just threw hydrad in there because he was the one who said sudgy/xp.  As you can see, my intention all along was to vote Axxle2 there.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Prods sent.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Vote Count 3.1

Axxle2 (2): 2.71828, Teproc
XerxesPraelor (1): Hydrad
sudgy (2): silverspawn, XerxesPraelor

Not Voting (4): Axxle2, sudgy, EgorK, Witherweaver

Day 3 ends at 2pm FT on November 9th.

[Witherweaver]

I was going to say that I had already addressed all those questions, but then someone else did it.  Anyway, hanging back a bit.

[EgorK]

Long weekends (especcially 4 day long weekends) are not good for my magia games

Well, the one game where silver got angry he was town. On the other hand he can replicate that. Is there always so much WIFOM in mafia?

[silverspawn]

I didn't plan to become angry in advance

[EgorK]

I didn't plan to become angry in advance

With your level of self-awareness and given the opportunity you can do that for sure

[silverspawn]

If it was something that I could just do, then I'd agree, but what happened was that WW drove this argument, and I just responded for the most part. I can't plan for that in advance.

[Witherweaver]

If it was something that I could just do, then I'd agree, but what happened was that WW drove this argument, and I just responded for the most part. I can't plan for that in advance.

Stop misappropriating.  What happened was you said something silly, and I explained why it was so, and you refused to stop trolling.

[silverspawn]

If it was something that I could just do, then I'd agree, but what happened was that WW drove this argument, and I just responded for the most part. I can't plan for that in advance.

Stop misappropriating.  What happened was you said something silly, and I explained why it was so, and you refused to stop trolling.

what happened was I said something true that you couldn't take because it went against your ego, you kept pushing me, and I refused to give in because I knew I was right. And now you're pushing it again.

[Witherweaver]

If it was something that I could just do, then I'd agree, but what happened was that WW drove this argument, and I just responded for the most part. I can't plan for that in advance.

Stop misappropriating.  What happened was you said something silly, and I explained why it was so, and you refused to stop trolling.

what happened was I said something true that you couldn't take because it went against your ego, you kept pushing me, and I refused to give in because I knew I was right. And now you're pushing it again.

You're not right, and you've never been in the right in this. 

[Witherweaver]

I was actually  hoping you had some ulterior motive, but evidently not.

[silverspawn]

I was hoping the same. I even said so.

[Teproc]

I was actually  hoping you had some ulterior motive, but evidently not.

Well if he's scum the ulterior motive is distracting everyone. Not sure why you're restarting it though, it's obviously counterproductive.

Axxle has been on and hasn't posted here. He's even be prodded. Why aren't you saying anything Axxle ?

[silverspawn]

I was actually  hoping you had some ulterior motive, but evidently not.

Well if he's scum the ulterior motive is distracting everyone. Not sure why you're restarting it though, it's obviously counterproductive.

Axxle has been on and hasn't posted here. He's even be prodded. Why aren't you saying anything Axxle ?

by the way... not directed at you specifically or restricted to this game, but I honestly think "trying to disctract town" is an absolutely abysmal scumtell, in so meaning that there is no way scum should ever do it. "distracting" always gets in trouble, because people are always quick to point it out, where as not doing anything usually doesn't get in trouble. also, lurking supports the absence of meaningful discussion a lot more, while "distracting" will inevitably direct attention to the thread. Even here, where I was careful to drop more or less subtle hints that it's WW's fault not mine, I instantly receive flag for it.

long story short, I would never think a player is scum because he is distracting, and I've also never seen scum do it.

[silverspawn]

*get you in trouble.
no idea why I missed that twice.

[Teproc]

Have you met scum!ash ? That's one of his big things as scum.

Or just look at this day. Is it not clear how good for scum your whole fight with WW has been ? It's something that is basically meaningless and it has completely dominated the day to the point that basically noting has happened. Nothing happening is great for scum.

[silverspawn]

Have you met scum!ash ? That's one of his big things as scum.

Or just look at this day. Is it not clear how good for scum your whole fight with WW has been ? It's something that is basically meaningless and it has completely dominated the day to the point that basically noting has happened. Nothing happening is great for scum.

I didn't say distracting is not bad for town. I said it's not good for scum to do it. One, because my image has gotten significantly worse since the end of day 2. Man, this day is not going very well for scum!me. Two, because there wasn't really any meaningful discussion that we distracted from, it was pretty much our discussion instead of nothing. There was plenty of time left where this game just stalled, too much for me to buy this argument.

Also, in the context of this game, since WW decides whom he wants to shoot, it's really his problem.

And no, I've never seen scum!ash.

[silverspawn]

I mean, from your perspective, there are only 2 possibilities.

1) I'm town. Then the discussion was bad, but it's not my fault
2) I'm scum. Then the discussion was good, because a lot of people think I'm scum now.

[Teproc]

I mean, from your perspective, there are only 2 possibilities.

1) I'm town. Then the discussion was bad, but it's not my fault
2) I'm scum. Then the discussion was good, because a lot of people think I'm scum now.

1) How is it not your fault ? It's both your and WW's fault.

2) I don't see a wagon on you.

[silverspawn]

1) How is it not your fault ? It's both your and WW's fault.

because a) WW is the IC and b) he was pushing the case. Why should I question what an IC does. I would expect people to follow me if I do something as an IC, even if they don't think it's a good idea.

2) I don't see a wagon on you.

no? I thought there was one. At least a bunch of people have said they find me scummy for this discussion.

[sudgy]

Vote: silverspawn
Vote: Witherweaver

Stop arguing!

[sudgy]

Unvote

[silverspawn]

come on. this discussion was totally relevant to the game. this is a game about arguing. arguing is a good thing.