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Author Topic: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Serial Killer (ashersky) wins!  (Read 170851 times)

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1025 on: October 15, 2014, 09:43:21 am »

I prefer Ichi to Hydrad. Vote: Ichi

For whys?!
Why Hydrad? Serious question, has there even been a case?

He is the scum.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1026 on: October 15, 2014, 09:44:17 am »

I'm pretty sure I've typed it up before in response to someone asking (Faust I think).  Also he's been very absent from this game in particular, which doesn't happen for him.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1027 on: October 15, 2014, 09:52:16 am »

Not sold. :)
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1028 on: October 15, 2014, 09:54:50 am »

^ Scum partner :)
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1029 on: October 15, 2014, 10:07:32 am »

I'm here at work. I'll do the list when I'm on break of who I want to lynch.

also sorry WW. I guess you can't really believe me at this time but I'm posting less because my work schedule changed and I havn't been able to be online as much while at work. I'm still trying to be a part of all the discussions though. But this might be more how I play for a bit unless my work changes times again.
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For anyone else, such a statement would be a scum tell.  For Hydrad, it's simply a tell that you're reading something from Hydrad.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1030 on: October 15, 2014, 10:18:21 am »

Can anyone (other than Hydrad) convince why I should not vote for Hydrad?
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1031 on: October 15, 2014, 10:34:43 am »

Can anyone (other than Hydrad) convince why I should not vote for Hydrad?

I'll give it a go. Letting Ichi get away and last-minute lynching Hydrad feels extremely reminiscent of the ending of day 1 to me and I have no reason to believe it will end differently.

Someone being on most everybody's "would lynch" list is a pretty good indication they're town anyway.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1032 on: October 15, 2014, 11:20:09 am »

ok here is my list

want to lynch: Jimmmm, WW
would lynch: faust, joth
don't know: eevee, asher, silver?
oppose: IG, silver?
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For anyone else, such a statement would be a scum tell.  For Hydrad, it's simply a tell that you're reading something from Hydrad.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1033 on: October 15, 2014, 11:21:47 am »

yea so, let's just do Ichi. He is at L-1.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1034 on: October 15, 2014, 11:24:03 am »

Can anyone (other than Hydrad) convince why I should not vote for Hydrad?

I'll give it a go. Letting Ichi get away and last-minute lynching Hydrad feels extremely reminiscent of the ending of day 1 to me and I have no reason to believe it will end differently.

Someone being on most everybody's "would lynch" list is a pretty good indication they're town anyway.

I'm not sure Hydrad is on everybody's "would lynch" list.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1035 on: October 15, 2014, 01:08:13 pm »

I am a town Psychologist.

I diagnosed Ashersky last night and was told he does not have the capability to kill.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1036 on: October 15, 2014, 01:15:08 pm »

Hmm.. makes the resistance to claiming on Day 1 make some sense.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1037 on: October 15, 2014, 02:46:29 pm »

why investigate ashersky?
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1038 on: October 15, 2014, 02:49:36 pm »

oh man, I just re-read the setup and the SK is 2-shot investigative immune, which is crazy powerful.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1039 on: October 15, 2014, 02:53:04 pm »

why investigate ashersky?
He's probably the hardest person for me to read in this game, and I think he's a very strong town player especially when people don't doubt his alignment. This doesn't completely clear him, but it mostly does to me.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1040 on: October 15, 2014, 02:54:15 pm »

baaah I'm not sure whether to believe this claim. it's actually a pretty good one.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1041 on: October 15, 2014, 02:55:41 pm »

I think I believe Ichi.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1042 on: October 15, 2014, 03:03:14 pm »

say more
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1043 on: October 15, 2014, 03:06:20 pm »

Mafia does have fakeclaims (-> setup), so there is no reason why it could not be made up. But it's a pretty strong role, so I'd be okay with not lynching him today.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1044 on: October 15, 2014, 03:07:36 pm »

I have to go to class like right now. I can be around close to the deadline (starting around 6:20 FT when I get out of class), but only on my phone.
Not 100% sure where to put my vote at the moment, I still like a Jimmmmm lynch--although silverspawn has been pretty suspicious to me as well.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1045 on: October 15, 2014, 03:08:25 pm »

Me or Ichi? 

Okay, setup says scum get safe fake claims, so maybe.  But why wouldn't he use his fake claim Day 1?  Scum mentality would be to claim so that he wouldn't get lynched.. worry about arguing why he's still alive later.  I don't think he'd be so forward thinking to think "Well, if I really was an investigator, I wouldn't claim with no result because that doesn't help town.  I'd try to fight my lynch and claim with something useful later."  That's much more likely to come from town, and would only come from scum if they're thinking really big picture with all the contingencies.  Ichi has been scum, like, once?

Investigating Ash makes sense.. it's probably what I would do here, unless I had reason to do something different based on how Day 1 went.  Especially this game, Ash is showing nothing (to me) that looks like scum!Ash or town!Ash, so I'd definitely want to know. 

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1046 on: October 15, 2014, 03:10:38 pm »

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Okay, setup says scum get safe fake claims, so maybe.  But why wouldn't he use his fake claim Day 1?  Scum mentality would be to claim so that he wouldn't get lynched.. worry about arguing why he's still alive later.  I don't think he'd be so forward thinking to think "Well, if I really was an investigator, I wouldn't claim with no result because that doesn't help town.  I'd try to fight my lynch and claim with something useful later."  That's much more likely to come from town, and would only come from scum if they're thinking really big picture with all the contingencies.  Ichi has been scum, like, once?

This is a good point.

unvote

If Ichi is not scum, that makes me feel worse about the Hydrad lynch too. So, at this point, maybe Jimmm is the best option.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1047 on: October 15, 2014, 03:12:27 pm »

Why?  Because Hydrad was defending Ichi?  That could easily happen with scum!Hydrad and town!Ichi.  In fact it's more likely than scum!Hydrad and scum!Ichi.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1048 on: October 15, 2014, 03:17:25 pm »

WW I've never seen you tunnel on someone this hard. Are you even considering if anyone else could be scum? do you have an ideas of who my partners would be if I was scum? It seems that no matter what happens at this point your just going to stick to the idea that I'm scum.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day 2 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #1049 on: October 15, 2014, 03:17:46 pm »

Nevermind what I said. I thought Hydrad switched from the Ichi wagon day1, but he actually didn't, he was never on it. The point against him (in addition to the fact that he plays differently) was how he sneaked onto the XP, and that still applies.

for some reaosn this game is confusing. I also keep almost switching up IG and XP. It was so much easier before XP changed his avatar.
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