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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #150 on: September 24, 2014, 11:47:14 am »

I don't think lynching a Vanilla Townie is going to help us kill scum.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #151 on: September 24, 2014, 11:48:17 am »

Actually unvote. silverspawn is entertaining. I want to see where this goes.

Who else is scummy? Hydrad, I guess. Vote: Hydrad

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #152 on: September 24, 2014, 11:48:52 am »

Oh wait, I get it. Silverspawn is the SK, and he wants to avoid being targeted by mafia.

Vote: silverspawn

ppe: that was a joke vote, not a policy vote, and I'm very suspicious that you're actually claiming it as such. But what do you think about my theory on SS?
My vote was about as close to a policy vote as I've ever done. It's confusing as heck having a fake Robz running around.

I find your theory on SS highly plausible. It would explain his refusal to give reasoning for his "claim" and him claiming in the first place. He had to have known that he would get heat for it though. The SK win condition seems pretty chancy given that if some mafia die first, they have no chance of winning. So maybe he just decided to have fun with things.

PPE: I am ready to vote for silverspawn. I find this a little odd, since it's like SK hunting--but I think ADK's theory makes the most sense so far.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #153 on: September 24, 2014, 11:50:39 am »

I definitely wouldn't do what Silver did as an SK, though.  The only reason I'd buy it at all is because he did something very similar as a Survivor in Bastard Mafia.  It didn't work out to well for him there, though, so I wonder if he'd be bold enough to try something like that in a regular game.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #154 on: September 24, 2014, 11:51:45 am »

I do not buy the SK!silverspawn theory. The fact that Ichi finds it "highly plausible" is weird.

Vote: Ichi
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #155 on: September 24, 2014, 11:53:30 am »

Silverspawn, how do you feel about Kant's categorical imperative?
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #156 on: September 24, 2014, 11:54:07 am »

I do not buy the SK!silverspawn theory. The fact that Ichi finds it "highly plausible" is weird.

Vote: Ichi
Then what do you think the explanation is?
And why are you voting me when I wasn't even the one that proposed the theory? (Which I still stand by)

I can't stand all these poor votes against me. I can't even argue against such bad reasons.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #157 on: September 24, 2014, 11:55:27 am »

You don't seem to be thinking about silverspawn's potential reasons for his play very thoroughly.

Is your theory that he thought he could just get away with it no questions asked, and when he we asked for reasons he panicked and couldn't think of anything but "nope, not telling you!"?
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #158 on: September 24, 2014, 11:55:39 am »

I do not buy the SK!silverspawn theory. The fact that Ichi finds it "highly plausible" is weird.

Vote: Ichi
Then what do you think the explanation is?
And why are you voting me when I wasn't even the one that proposed the theory? (Which I still stand by)

I can't stand all these poor votes against me. I can't even argue against such bad reasons.

That should be obvious.. sheeping someone else's argument is standard scum; you're less accountable and less in the spotlight than the person that proposed it in the first place.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #159 on: September 24, 2014, 11:56:13 am »

Silverspawn, how do you feel about Kant's categorical imperative?

Kant has it all wrong! *sorryiknowimnotsilverspawn*
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #160 on: September 24, 2014, 11:56:38 am »

And what are "all these" poor votes against you?  I only remember two, and they're both justified.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #161 on: September 24, 2014, 11:57:47 am »

I do not buy the SK!silverspawn theory. The fact that Ichi finds it "highly plausible" is weird.

Vote: Ichi
Then what do you think the explanation is?
And why are you voting me when I wasn't even the one that proposed the theory? (Which I still stand by)

I can't stand all these poor votes against me. I can't even argue against such bad reasons.

That should be obvious.. sheeping someone else's argument is standard scum; you're less accountable and less in the spotlight than the person that proposed it in the first place.
I am not sheeping his argument.

He asked me what I thought of it!!


See, you're just proving my point. So now I'm scummy because someone asked me a simple question, and I answered it.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #162 on: September 24, 2014, 11:57:59 am »

I do not buy the SK!silverspawn theory. The fact that Ichi finds it "highly plausible" is weird.

Vote: Ichi
Then what do you think the explanation is?
And why are you voting me when I wasn't even the one that proposed the theory? (Which I still stand by)

I can't stand all these poor votes against me. I can't even argue against such bad reasons.

I do not think discussing that kind of stuff would be good.

I'm voting you because you're sheeping a particularly weakly-reasoned case, and are SK hunting.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #163 on: September 24, 2014, 11:58:24 am »

Actually unvote. silverspawn is entertaining. I want to see where this goes.

Who else is scummy? Hydrad, I guess. Vote: Hydrad

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What? Why?

I do not buy the SK!silverspawn theory. The fact that Ichi finds it "highly plausible" is weird.

Vote: Ichi

But I'm not scummy for proposing it?

Silverspawn, how do you feel about Kant's categorical imperative?

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You don't seem to be thinking about silverspawn's potential reasons for his play very thoroughly.

Is your theory that he thought he could just get away with it no questions asked, and when he we asked for reasons he panicked and couldn't think of anything but "nope, not telling you!"?

Either that, or it was an all-or-nothing play. He would attract attention, but might be able to get away with "too erratic to be scum", then be scott-free the rest of the game. Which isn't necessarily good from someone who has team members to help them out, but if you're a SK you might want to take the longshot anyway.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #164 on: September 24, 2014, 11:59:26 am »

I do not buy the SK!silverspawn theory. The fact that Ichi finds it "highly plausible" is weird.

Vote: Ichi
Then what do you think the explanation is?
And why are you voting me when I wasn't even the one that proposed the theory? (Which I still stand by)

I can't stand all these poor votes against me. I can't even argue against such bad reasons.

I do not think discussing that kind of stuff would be good.

I'm voting you because you're sheeping a particularly weakly-reasoned case, and are SK hunting.
omfg I hope this is a joke. Or you obviously did not read my last post.

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« Reply #165 on: September 24, 2014, 12:01:06 pm »

I do not think discussing that kind of stuff would be good.
In other words you're refusing to answer a perfectly good question. And remaining slippery with no opinions of your own, just attacking me to draw attention away from yourself.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #166 on: September 24, 2014, 12:01:36 pm »

Vote: Ichimaru for being even more over-the-top defensive than usual.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #167 on: September 24, 2014, 12:02:08 pm »

Vote: Ichimaru for being even more over-the-top defensive than usual.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #168 on: September 24, 2014, 12:03:04 pm »

Yes, that's the point of me voting for you.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #169 on: September 24, 2014, 12:07:14 pm »

Silverspawn, how do you feel about Kant's categorical imperative?

I think every ethical norm except for classical utilitarianism is either wrong or a logical consequence from it. though the categorical imperative is particularly stupid.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #170 on: September 24, 2014, 12:08:23 pm »

vote: Ichimaru Gin

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #171 on: September 24, 2014, 12:09:00 pm »

Yes, that's the point of me voting for you.
So the fact that ADK asked me what I thought of his case and I answered his question has no meaning to you whatsoever? I am not even voting silverspawn, as everyone is trying to pressure me to do, so the term "sheeping" is even more incorrect.

Ok. Well I guess there's no point in me responding to any more accusation against me, since no one actually reads anything--or if they do, they forget it the next instant.

Where's Volt when I need him?

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« Reply #172 on: September 24, 2014, 12:12:23 pm »

Yes, that's the point of me voting for you.
So the fact that ADK asked me what I thought of his case and I answered his question has no meaning to you whatsoever? I am not even voting silverspawn, as everyone is trying to pressure me to do, so the term "sheeping" is even more incorrect.

Ok. Well I guess there's no point in me responding to any more accusation against me, since no one actually reads anything--or if they do, they forget it the next instant.

Where's Volt when I need him?

PPE:  :P

Faust's case is not that you answered a question, but how you answered it.  Eevee's case was that you were laying some groundwork to vote for Silverspawn later; like, if it became later in the day and a (mis, from this perspective) lynch needed to go through.

If you're going to claim that other people don't read your posts, you should take some amount of effort in reading other people's post.

My case is that being indignant and defensive is VERY easy to replicated, and it's your town meta, and this is the most ridiculous case of defensiveness I've seen so far.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #173 on: September 24, 2014, 12:13:26 pm »

And I don't know what Silverspawn's case is.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #174 on: September 24, 2014, 12:18:05 pm »

How many votes is that one me?

I am certain there is at least one scum, maybe more on my wagon. I could easily faust trying to emulate his town meta of fighting with me here. And WW's case on me is just garbage. Silver is obviously trying to distract from himself. The fact that he doesn't post any reason for voting me doesn't even bother me, since it's just the same as everyone else.

PPE: I don't think I've ever had this amount of bad votes on me this early. It's insane. I'm not going to argue my meta with you, but I hope you can see that at least some of the votes on me are blatantly opportunistic.

And look, I know it makes it hard because scum jumping on my wagon has excuses because of my defensiveness. But still, I thought you would have known me better by now.

PPE: yeah. I'm ready to lynch silver now--and surprised no one's made a partner case yet.
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