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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2014, 08:06:58 pm »

This feels like the early teens of mafia games.  There were like two in a row with early VT claims -- one was a VT (Eevee?) and one was mafia.

I don't like the claim.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2014, 08:07:43 pm »

It was PPS.

I don't like the claim either.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2014, 08:07:59 pm »

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #103 on: September 23, 2014, 08:09:06 pm »

while I didn't like the claim I can't imagine SS doing it as a first time scum. I'm guessing this is town silver.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #104 on: September 23, 2014, 08:13:22 pm »

So what now?

By claiming, silverspawn has definitely placed himself at the center of attention for today. I just have trouble seeing a town motive for it though.

What was your reason for claiming VT?

I don't think I want to answer that.
Why not? This seems an incredibly odd response if you're really a VT.
It sounds much more like you're lying (as town or scum).

maybe scum thinks so too, i'll be lynched day one, and the NK flies out of the window for a newbie and a VT. profit.
I do not understand this post at all. Why would he be lynched today if scum thinks he is lying?

Oh wait. I see now. So he thinks its good because we'll either lynch him today and only lose a VT. Or scum will NK him because they think he's a lying PR and then we'll also only lose a VT.

But the WIFOM here is insane.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #105 on: September 23, 2014, 08:28:54 pm »

<---- Haven't read the setup.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start
« Reply #106 on: September 23, 2014, 08:29:01 pm »

Vote Count 1.1

Eevee (2): Hydrad, joth
Jimmmm (2): Ichimaru, ADK
Ichimaru (1): Eevee
silverspawn (1): Jimmmmm

Not Voting (5): ashersky, faust, silverspawn, witherweaver, xerxes

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day1 will last 10 days. The deadline for Day1 will be Friday, October 3 at 7 pm forum time.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #107 on: September 23, 2014, 08:35:14 pm »

<---- Haven't read the setup.

Yeah...you should read the setup.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #108 on: September 23, 2014, 08:36:52 pm »

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Oh wait. I see now. So he thinks its good because we'll either lynch him today and only lose a VT. Or scum will NK him because they think he's a lying PR and then we'll also only lose a VT.

I didn't say this is the reason. I only said it's something that could happen.

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #109 on: September 23, 2014, 09:00:32 pm »

One question I have about the setup.

What does the JK mean in the possible roles?
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #110 on: September 23, 2014, 09:00:51 pm »

oh never mind. I'm guessing thats jailkeeper :/
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #111 on: September 23, 2014, 09:02:51 pm »

One question I have about the setup.

What does the JK mean in the possible roles?

Way to claim not-jailkeeper.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #112 on: September 23, 2014, 09:03:02 pm »

People need to be careful about this stuff.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #113 on: September 23, 2014, 09:04:13 pm »

People need to be careful about this stuff.

this may have been an intentional slip to obscure his role.

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« Reply #114 on: September 23, 2014, 09:04:39 pm »

Here's the important stuff from the setup.


xxxx               Column1         Column2         Column3         Column4         Add-On           
Row1              VT                  Detective         1-shot CommuterGoon Cop         1-shot Investigation Immune/SK
Row2                Watcher            JK                     VT                     Psychologist       2-shot JOAT       
Row3                1-shot Bulletproof Townie VT                     JK                     BodyguardTraitor Knows Mafia         
Row4                 1-shot CommuterPsychologist        Detective            VT                      Mafia Knows Traitor   
Add-On              2-shot JOAT       Mafia Knows Traitor/SKTraitorKnows Mafia/SK1-shot Investigation Immune      xxxxxxx           

To clarify here are the 8 options:

1. Detective, 1-shot Commuter, Goon Cop; 1-shot Investigation Immune + Serial Killer
2. Watcher, Jailkeeper, Psychologist; 2-shot JOAT
3. 1-shot BP Townie, Jailkeeper, Bodyguard; Traitor Knows Mafia
4. 1-shot BP Commuter, Psychologist, Detective; Mafia Knows Traitor
5. Watcher, 1-shot BP Townie, 1-shot BP Commuter; 2-shot JOAT
6. Detective, Jailkeeper, Psychologist; Mafia Knows Traitor + Serial Killer
7. 1-shot Commuter, Jailkeeper, Detective; Traitor Knows Mafia + Serial Killer
8. Goon Cop, Psychologist, Bodyguard; 1-shot Investigation Immune
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #115 on: September 23, 2014, 09:04:54 pm »

People need to be careful about this stuff.

this may have been an intentional slip to obscure his role.

Then it was clumsily done.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #116 on: September 23, 2014, 09:06:24 pm »

Ya ok I think I know everything about the setup now. My bad
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #117 on: September 23, 2014, 09:09:07 pm »

So actual add-on list:

1-Shot Investigation Immune
1-Shot Investigation Immune + Serial Killer
Traitor Knows Mafia
Traitor Knows Mafia + SK
Mafia Knows Traitor
Mafia Knows Traitor + SK
2-Shot JOAT

Looking at that list--I'm not so sure we care about any of them.  Like...I don't care if the mafia and traitor know about each other -- at worst that's like a normal game where all scum know each other, and yet it isn't.  The JOAT is strongish, and we need to keep in mind that results may be wrong based on the Immune thing.  We'll know from nightkills if we have an SK.

Am I missing something on the value of learning which setup we're playing?
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #118 on: September 23, 2014, 09:50:02 pm »

I thought you meant that when you called it a ridiculous newbie play.

I'm not saying it wasn't intentional or purposeful, just that newbie's sometimes do things that they think are a good idea when they're not.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #119 on: September 24, 2014, 12:18:21 am »

I don't like the claim but I don't see scum doing it.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #120 on: September 24, 2014, 12:53:47 am »

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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #121 on: September 24, 2014, 04:33:44 am »

Well... I think setup talk has little utility (agree with ash there). Once we have investigative results, we might want to figure out whether scum is investigation-immune... maybe. Not now though.

vote:silverspawn can't explain right now.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #122 on: September 24, 2014, 05:03:56 am »

I do have to say silverspawn's play reminds my of my own play in Dynasty Warriors. Good times.

Also find everyone stating "I didn't read the setup" suspicious. Man, if you're town, just go read it instead of boasting of your ignorance. And as scum, it's a way to obscure the fact that you have been analyzing the setup all N0.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #123 on: September 24, 2014, 09:04:52 am »

<---------- Has read the setup.

I would also like to boast of my ignorance of flavor.
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Re: Mafia 51: Silo (Wool) Mafia - Day1 Start - PM for speccy
« Reply #124 on: September 24, 2014, 10:35:15 am »

now that everyone has expressed his disapproval of my claim, what do we do?
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