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[qwerty31]

First time poster. Hi, everyone!

I've been experimenting with wacky king's court ridiculousness in solitaire recently and the following occurred to me: What is the soonest turn that you can purchase every card on the board? All kingdom cards, victory cards, treasure, etc.

A sample here:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201112/12/game-20111212-212952-e94f82bf.html

Note that I didn't actually buy everything. I got bored and quit before finishing coppers and curses.

You can put whatever restrictions here you want. I was using: no trashing of cards (although I realized later I failed at this at the beginning of the game -- this becomes very relevant because, unless you can buy *everything* on one turn, the extra VPs/gold/etc really clogs up whatever engine you're using), colonies/platinum, and ofc choose your own spread of 10 kingdom cards.

I'm sure someone can come up with a better implementation of a solution than I did, but that's the challenge. Quickest buy of every card on the table.

Related question/challenge: What is the theoretical maximum number of points attainable in a final deck of cards/what's the soonest you can buy it?

[Elyv]

The theoretical maximum is infinite thanks to monument/bishop with no cards in hand.

Also, the solution probably involves ironworks as well as bridge and king's court and looks something like this.

[Geronimoo]

I did this in the past, here it is again:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201112/13/game-20111213-014547-4d8690ef.html

This board averages emptying the entire board (while gaining about 1000 VP) in 12 turns (I've done it in 10).

[GendoIkari]

I did this in the past, here it is again:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201112/13/game-20111213-014547-4d8690ef.html

This board averages emptying the entire board (while gaining about 1000 VP) in 12 turns (I've done it in 10).

So I had been playing around with a variant of that; adding in Vineyards to give more points. I also found a way to get around trashing... Scheme. It doesn't empty the board as quickly, but it does get more points. Once you get your engine going, you can use Scheme to start every turn with KC, KC, KC, KC, Council Room; with many other KC, Grand Market, and Council Room on top of your deck. This allows you to draw your entire deck every turn even after you have a huge deck to deal with.

[theory]

FYI, this is a lot of fun to try out for yourself.  I highly recommend it.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I did this in the past, here it is again:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201112/13/game-20111213-014547-4d8690ef.html

This board averages emptying the entire board (while gaining about 1000 VP) in 12 turns (I've done it in 10).

So I had been playing around with a variant of that; adding in Vineyards to give more points. I also found a way to get around trashing... Scheme. It doesn't empty the board as quickly, but it does get more points. Once you get your engine going, you can use Scheme to start every turn with KC, KC, KC, KC, Council Room; with many other KC, Grand Market, and Council Room on top of your deck. This allows you to draw your entire deck every turn even after you have a huge deck to deal with.

From Geronimoo's kingdom as a baseline, what did you replace with Scheme, and what did you replace with Vineyards (I assume Gardens)?

[GendoIkari]

FYI, this is a lot of fun to try out for yourself.  I highly recommend it.

Definitely. I spent a long time just playing these games. What's annoying though, is that when you have 50 or so cards in your hand, it becomes quite problematic to work with the interface. Like, when you play King's Court, you have to scroll up to see the "choose a card to play thrice." Then, after you choose King's Court, it auto-scrolls back to the bottom, so you have to scroll up again. Over and over and over.

[GendoIkari]

I did this in the past, here it is again:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201112/13/game-20111213-014547-4d8690ef.html

This board averages emptying the entire board (while gaining about 1000 VP) in 12 turns (I've done it in 10).

So I had been playing around with a variant of that; adding in Vineyards to give more points. I also found a way to get around trashing... Scheme. It doesn't empty the board as quickly, but it does get more points. Once you get your engine going, you can use Scheme to start every turn with KC, KC, KC, KC, Council Room; with many other KC, Grand Market, and Council Room on top of your deck. This allows you to draw your entire deck every turn even after you have a huge deck to deal with.

From Geronimoo's kingdom as a baseline, what did you replace with Scheme, and what did you replace with Vineyards (I assume Gardens)?

Since I don't have any logs, and can't get to Geronimoo's link from where I am, I'm going off of memory here. I think once I had gone Vineyard / Scheme, I was caring more about maximum points than shorter games, so I didn't have Quarry or Chapel.