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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1225 on: September 18, 2014, 05:34:33 pm »

I voted Egork because he's a better lynch than XP.

Guilty until proven innocent, really ? Mafia as a game is the complete reverse of that.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1226 on: September 18, 2014, 05:36:27 pm »

I voted Egork because he's a better lynch than XP.

Guilty until proven innocent, really ? Mafia as a game is the complete reverse of that.
Then why did you want to lynch me?

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1227 on: September 18, 2014, 05:37:55 pm »

ash, what do you think about an Egork, and, more importantly, about an XP lynch?

I believe they are both in my meh column.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1228 on: September 18, 2014, 05:38:31 pm »

I voted Egork because he's a better lynch than XP.

Guilty until proven innocent, really ? Mafia as a game is the complete reverse of that.
Then why did you want to lynch me?

What in the post you quote is a reason against lynching you ?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1229 on: September 18, 2014, 05:39:14 pm »

Ichi what you say about PoE can't be true.. all PoE is doing is saying "well, I don't want to vote for these people because I think they're town, so I better focus on these others".  You implicitly do this when you list a bunch of reads and have town reads in there.  Voltaire's "PoE" isn't any different than anyone else's "list all the currently alive players and say what you think about them", except there is different formatting.

PPEs, blah
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1230 on: September 18, 2014, 05:40:12 pm »

I voted Egork because he's a better lynch than XP.

Guilty until proven innocent, really ? Mafia as a game is the complete reverse of that.
Then why did you want to lynch me?

What in the post you quote is a reason against lynching you ?
The quote that you quoted of me saying guilty until proven innocent is regarding your desire to lynch me.

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1231 on: September 18, 2014, 05:40:23 pm »

A pacovf lynch gives us so much to analyze.  His wagon speed (and lack thereof), his supporters and detractors, his reads, his theories...there's a lot there.

What egor, et al. get us?  One less player to think about.

I'm not usually a lynch for info guy.  But with a 50+ page D1?  I'm thinking for the sake of the game, it's important.  Scum benefits greatly from people not rereading.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1232 on: September 18, 2014, 05:40:47 pm »

ash, what do you think about an Egork, and, more importantly, about an XP lynch?

I believe they are both in my meh column.
is there someone else you would support, except P?

and what is POE?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1233 on: September 18, 2014, 05:41:49 pm »

ash, what do you think about an Egork, and, more importantly, about an XP lynch?

I believe they are both in my meh column.
is there someone else you would support, except P?

and what is POE?

You mean support to lynch?  Not actively.

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1234 on: September 18, 2014, 05:42:00 pm »

ash, what do you think about an Egork, and, more importantly, about an XP lynch?

I believe they are both in my meh column.
is there someone else you would support, except P?

and what is POE?

Has this really never come up ? First time playing with Voltaire ?

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1235 on: September 18, 2014, 05:43:48 pm »

I might be wrong but:

Unofficial Vote Count 1.pacovf

pacovf (3): ashersky, Robz888, Witherweaver
EgorK (4): XerxesPraelor, pingpongsam, Teproc, Ichimaru Gin
silverspawn (1): Voltaire
XerxesPraelor (5): Hydrad, silverspawn, azadin, pacovf, EgorK

I think the people voting for EgorK should reconsider.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1236 on: September 18, 2014, 05:44:38 pm »

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Has this really never come up ? First time playing with Voltaire ?

it might have come up before
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1237 on: September 18, 2014, 05:44:51 pm »

I might be wrong but:

Unofficial Vote Count 1.pacovf

pacovf (3): ashersky, Robz888, Witherweaver
EgorK (4): XerxesPraelor, pingpongsam, Teproc, Ichimaru Gin
silverspawn (1): Voltaire
XerxesPraelor (5): Hydrad, silverspawn, azadin, pacovf, EgorK

I think the people voting for EgorK should reconsider.

Why ?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1238 on: September 18, 2014, 05:45:20 pm »

XP is on L-2? That's better than I thought. We can do this!
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1239 on: September 18, 2014, 05:45:44 pm »

Because I don't think he is scum, and he hasn't interacted with anyone, so his flip won't help town.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1240 on: September 18, 2014, 05:46:41 pm »

The "I might be wrong" was referring to the vote count itself.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1241 on: September 18, 2014, 05:46:47 pm »

Because I don't think he is scum, and he hasn't interacted with anyone, so his flip won't help town.

Right, I thought it had to with the vote count.

It's not like XP is a super informative lynch either.
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« Reply #1242 on: September 18, 2014, 05:47:07 pm »

Ichi what you say about PoE can't be true.. all PoE is doing is saying "well, I don't want to vote for these people because I think they're town, so I better focus on these others".  You implicitly do this when you list a bunch of reads and have town reads in there.  Voltaire's "PoE" isn't any different than anyone else's "list all the currently alive players and say what you think about them", except there is different formatting.

PPEs, blah
I find the reasoning behind the bolded part, suspect. I mean, I have nowhere near the best reads, and I'm not saying my reads are better than anyone else's--cause they aren't. I just think that the actual process of eliminating people from your pool can be kind of random. So I think it's biased towards null-reads getting lynched, which is ok I guess--except when you happen to be town and then people want to kill you because they have a null-read on you and not on others.

I can see that it does have some advantages, and is more of a process that you have to work through, which is good. I just take issue with people putting too much faith in it--especially when I know for a fact that their reads on me are wrong.

PPE: 5

I'm probably gonna stop now, as it's probably just distracting from actually lynching people.

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1243 on: September 18, 2014, 05:48:29 pm »

XP is on L-2? That's better than I thought. We can do this!
I will vote XP. As I still find him quite scummy. If he flips scum, I really want to lynch Teproc tomorrow.

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« Reply #1244 on: September 18, 2014, 05:49:14 pm »

Because I don't think he is scum, and he hasn't interacted with anyone, so his flip won't help town.

Right, I thought it had to with the vote count.

It's not like XP is a super informative lynch either.

Well, he has done stuff (vote on Ash, vote on Hydrad, vote on EgorK; he also got his wagon started by Hydrad, which I think is relevant, even if WW disagrees), and I actually think he is scum! So that's two reasons why I vastly prefer him over EgorK.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1245 on: September 18, 2014, 05:50:30 pm »

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It's not like XP is a super informative lynch either.

I get that argument for lurkers, but if you don't lynch XP because of that, there aren't many players left.
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« Reply #1246 on: September 18, 2014, 05:50:58 pm »

vote: XP

I believe this is L-1

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1247 on: September 18, 2014, 05:52:55 pm »

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It's not like XP is a super informative lynch either.

I get that argument for lurkers, but if you don't lynch XP because of that, there aren't many players left.

This is what I'm saying. I don't want to lynch XP because he's town, not because he wouldn't be an informative lynch.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1248 on: September 18, 2014, 05:56:27 pm »

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It's not like XP is a super informative lynch either.

I get that argument for lurkers, but if you don't lynch XP because of that, there aren't many players left.

This is what I'm saying. I don't want to lynch XP because he's town, not because he wouldn't be an informative lynch.

You've mentioned that you liked XP's vote on Ash. Why?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1249 on: September 18, 2014, 05:58:17 pm »

No no no on XP and EgorK. XP is probably town and EgorK is just a coin flip.

Everyone vote someone more better. Like Pacovf or Silver. 
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