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[Witherweaver]

Yeah, it would leave us with no PRs, but Mafia still has factional kill.  So.. that strikes me as unbalanced, since standard game has Mafia with a kill and some kind of cop/doctor.

[silverspawn]

well, we don't know how much scum is in this game. If it's 3, we have a 10/3 town - scum ratio without any power roles, if we chose to dissolve them all. even with an IC, that seems pretty bad.

[faust]

faust, once a house is empowered, can it lose that status ?

Yes.

[silverspawn]

plus, if we do that, we don't have a doctor, so scum can just kill the IC in night one.

[Witherweaver]

So my (other) point still stands right?  Lannister scum can NK Lannister Town, but other Lannisters cannot retaliate because scum is a Lannister.  Right?

Lannister could never retaliate unless they were the Town who was NK'd (and was saved somehow), since the Lannister power is to use an action USED ON YOU by the person you are targeting.

Ah, okay.

[pacovf]

Yeah, it would leave us with no PRs, but Mafia still has factional kill.  So.. that strikes me as unbalanced, since standard game has Mafia with a kill and some kind of cop/doctor.

AND the knowledge that there is no cop/doctor, which is nearly as important.

[azadin]

There is no way we can dissolve the houses. It gives scum way too much power with their singular night kill when town is left with nothing. I seriously believe our best bet at this point is to move around, see what sort of empowerment the house powers get, and go from there. If we truly believe that dissolving the PRs will give town an advantage, we can always do that day 2.

[Hydrad]

ok lets say we empower lannister. I almost think that we should already decide who will be the voted person and then stark can bodygaurd that person incase it ends up being a cop power. Otherwise if scum is in that QT they can figure out who to kill and we would lose the information gained.

[faust]

Pretty sure that anybody not changing houses today will get 3 votes tonight, instead of 2.

@Mods: can you confirm this?

For your vote to increase, a player needs to have remained a full game phase (day and night) in the same house. Night 0 does not count. So noone will have more than 2 votes tonight.

[Voltaire]

EgorK actually only has two posts. I had no idea. I don't think scum lurks THAT much.

vote: PPS.

[faust]

How exactly does one go about changing houses, in the thread or via PM?

Only house changes via PM or in the Mafia QT are valid.

[Hydrad]

is voting for the leader also done secretly? Do you know if someone has been voted the highest?

[pacovf]

Bold questions to the mod.

Where do votes for the House leader have to be written? Where does the target of the House leader have to be written?

[silverspawn]

okay, so let me necro my house overview

Stark:

• Members
  
  • pacovf (Brynden Tully)
  • Teproc (Brienne of Tarth)
  • Ashersky
• Power:
  Bodyguard
• Empowerment Condition:
  House Lanister must have perished

Lannister:

• Members:
  
  • pingpongsam
  • Voltaire (Queen of Thorns)
  • Azadin
  • silverspawn (Oberyn Martell)
• Power:
  Copy the latest night Action that a targeted Player used on you, with him as the new target
• Empowerment Condition:
  For each house, one Player who used to be in this house must now be in house Lannister

Targaryen:

• Members:
  
  • Robz888 (Jorah Mormont)
  • Witherweaver (Barristan Selmy)
  • XerxesPraelor
• Power:
  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
• Empowerment Condition:
  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Baratheon:

• Members:
  
  • Hydrad
  • EgorK
• Power:
  Stannis Baratheon is king
• Empowerment Condition:
  Stannis Baratheon must be King

House-free: Ichimaru Gin


if we empower lannister, it means Hydrad/Egork and Robz/WW/Xerxes and pacov/Teproc/ash must join them, right? and i'd say it's pretty clear we make WW Leader, because he's the IC

[silverspawn]

and there's this thing about never leaving less than 2 in one house, but baratheon supposedly has a weak power anyway, so it might not matter

[pacovf]

and there's this thing about never leaving less than 2 in one house, but baratheon supposedly has a weak power anyway, so it might not matter

What? No, they have a DANGEROUS power. If we decide to let them live (is that the consensus now? I'm not entirely clear), we are keeping at least three people there, for accountability reasons.

[faust]

Vote Count 1.4

silverspawn (1): Ichimaru Gin
pacovf (3): ashersky, Witherweaver, Robz888
EgorK (1): silverspawn
Hydrad (3): pacovf, azadin, XerxesPraelor
pingpongsam (3): Teproc, pingpongsam, Voltaire

Not Voting (2): Hydrad, EgorK

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends on September 19 at noon.

[Voltaire]

and there's this thing about never leaving less than 2 in one house, but baratheon supposedly has a weak power anyway, so it might not matter

Baratheon does not have a weak power, they have a DANGEROUS, STRONG, mostly anti-town power.

[Hydrad]

what if for baratheon. we light prime someone. In the next day they announce who they primed and we can collectivly decide if we should burn them or not. If we think they should live we dissolve baratheon? Is there a downside to that?

[Voltaire]

and there's this thing about never leaving less than 2 in one house, but baratheon supposedly has a weak power anyway, so it might not matter

What? No, they have a DANGEROUS power. If we decide to let them live (is that the consensus now? I'm not entirely clear), we are keeping at least three people there, for accountability reasons.

Consensus, barring setup stuff changing it, is to leave three people in Baratheon who all vote for themselves to do the power, causing nobody to have it.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I unvoted silverspawn and am currently not voting

Sorry, I did that in the same post that I asked a mod question in, so it was hard to see I know.

[silverspawn]

Consensus, barring setup stuff changing it, is to leave three people in Baratheon who all vote for themselves to do the power, causing nobody to have it.

alright, I read the first half of the thread in one go because I was away in the beginning, must have missed that

we still don't know how you switch houses, right?

[Voltaire]

Consensus, barring setup stuff changing it, is to leave three people in Baratheon who all vote for themselves to do the power, causing nobody to have it.

alright, I read the first half of the thread in one go because I was away in the beginning, must have missed that

we still don't know how you switch houses, right?

How exactly does one go about changing houses, in the thread or via PM?

Only house changes via PM or in the Mafia QT are valid.

[silverspawn]

ahm.  okay.

[Voltaire]

faust, I've also asked some questions in the Lannister QT.

What happens if two Houses are tied for largest? Who gets Hand of the King? Who makes the King?