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Does Ximen Bao give you History?

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qdread:
Hey - I was just curious about this, and I don't think I've seen it in a game on Isotropic. Does the figure Ximen Bao, whose Karma has all echo effects on your board count as part of a single color's stack, give you the History achievement if you have at least 4 echoes somewhere on your board?
thanks!

Kahryl:
Huh. That is a great question.

ipofanes:
Never thought of it but I'd say yes, as the karma effect says "counts as part of this stack" without any "for the purpose of resolving before the dogma effect" clause.

qdread:
Yeah, it came up in a real-life game and we decided not to give the achievement because the History achievement says the four echoes must be in the same COLOR, but Ximen Bao says they count as part of the STACK, but not the color. But it is still somewhat ambiguous so I was curious if there was an official ruling on it.

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