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Copying from Diplomacy 3 because I'm lazy!!! Thanks Galz!!!


The game has reached its conclusion! Congratulations to France, Germany, and Turkey on the 3-way tie!

The powers are:

Austria: A Drowned Kernel
England: Grujah
France: Just a Rube
Germany: ghostofmars
Italy: heron
Russia: Jack Rudd
Turkey: KingZog3


The starting board is below, see the opening post for some cool Diplomacy resources and tools.

Please send me the moves by PM before the deadline (I will try to be strict yet kind, a difficult and narrow path to walk). I can also make a QT for moves submission if you prefer.

First deadline is let's say Tuesday morning 9/2, 1 am forum time. Deadlines will be 3 Days for Spring/Fall Orders, 24 Hours for Winter Builds (I will aim to keep retreats within the flow of the 7 day cycle). (Early submissions allowed and encouraged; if you change your mind at any time, new moves will be accepted up until I have posted the updated map. However you can mark your orders with FINAL if you choose, and if all players have done so, I'll update early.) If you feel that these deadlines are too short or too long at any point, let me know, and we can open up a discussion.

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Current state: (Spring 1901)


Total Centers:
Austria:             3 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             3 centers
Germany:          3 centers
Italy:                3 centers
Russia:            4 centers
Turkey:            3 centers
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2014, 11:06:24 pm »

I'm so ready. Bring it on!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 10:52:26 am »

Let's get this trainwreck started.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2014, 11:11:42 am »

Should we all do what ADK did and put out flag as our picture?
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 03:10:37 pm »

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 03:29:40 pm »

Should we all do what ADK did and put out flag as our picture?
I put the flag in my signature.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 03:44:09 pm »

Oh, I wanted to be in this!

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 04:39:12 pm »

I'd rather do these chats on facebook/gtalk than qt, so if anytone wants to add me, i'm


/alfredpatak on facebook (Vanja Grujic) ; grujah (et) gmail.com on gtalk.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 05:28:31 pm »

I'd rather do these chats on facebook/gtalk than qt, so if anytone wants to add me, i'm


/alfredpatak on facebook (Vanja Grujic) ; grujah (et) gmail.com on gtalk.

I can't find you on facebook. there's a lot of Vanja Grujic's and also no alfred patak's. If you can find me, Steven Labute on facebook. If any of you want to add me that's ok I guess, just be sure to tell me so I know who you are.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 05:31:51 pm »

Found you.
I'm this one
https://www(dot)facebook(dot)com/alfredpatak
If you search for Vanja Grujic, I'm the one with red/green glasses.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2014, 05:39:36 pm »

Oh, and I'll be gone form friday afternoon till monday. So talk to me before then! Maybe we could move the deadline just till tuesday? So I can catch up and make an informed decision when i get back?
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 05:48:38 pm »

I'd be glad to push this deadline back a little ways. The first diplomacy phase is traditionally longer so players can get their footing, and we haven't heard yet from two of our players. How about Tuesday morning at 1 am forum time?

Any other methods of communication besides the QT are fine. But then I don't get to eavesdrop! :P
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2014, 06:30:12 pm »

I have to finish reading the rules and stuff, probably will send out some stuff in a couple hours.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2014, 09:26:19 pm »

I prefer qt, but I can certainly do gchat; rwcorrell for me.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2014, 09:34:26 am »

Should we all do what ADK did and put out flag as our picture?

Only if you want to be cool like me.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2014, 01:01:05 pm »

i'm observing!  possibly commenting like I did last time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2014, 01:02:53 pm »

i'm observing!  possibly commenting like I did last time.

I don't know what the comments were like last time, but I'd rather comments no revolve around strategy, or at least anything that could affect a current turn. The wrong word could instil doubt in a person, and I'd rather that come from another player and not an observer.

But I mean, comment away :P I just want to be sure it won't mess with the game status.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2014, 01:33:04 pm »

like comment in a QT, to be released at the end of the game...I finally got around to posting that QT to the Dip3 game today.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2014, 01:37:03 pm »

Should we all do what ADK did and put out flag as our picture?

Only if you want to be cool like me.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2014, 02:15:38 pm »

I've sent out a prod PM to Russia. Hopefully he'll turn up in the next couple days (too much vodka, one suspects), but if not we may have to look for a sub.
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2014, 02:27:48 pm »

like comment in a QT, to be released at the end of the game...I finally got around to posting that QT to the Dip3 game today.

Oh ok. Yeah, that could be interesting to read in a year from now when this is done :P
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2014, 03:17:29 pm »

Also, since there don't seem to be objections I've gone ahead and moved the first deadline to Tuesday morning 9/2, 1 am forum time. Hopefully that will give ample time for communication and we can get a sub if need be.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2014, 01:11:33 am »

I'm going to declare a 24 hour replacement warning for Jack Rudd. I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but that'll be 3 days since the start of the game, which would ordinarily be an entire turn. I want this game to not take a year, and that means being active at least once every three days.

Let me know if you'd be interested in subbing. Also, let me know if you think this is overly tyrannical. I don't like replacing people, but the show must go on.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2014, 01:33:32 am »

I think it's fair. All other countries have been active, most with multiple posts. Rudd is only guy who hasn't said anything, or posted here even.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2014, 05:10:28 am »

I'm going to declare a 24 hour replacement warning for Jack Rudd. I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but that'll be 3 days since the start of the game, which would ordinarily be an entire turn. I want this game to not take a year, and that means being active at least once every three days.

Let me know if you'd be interested in subbing. Also, let me know if you think this is overly tyrannical. I don't like replacing people, but the show must go on.


I would sub in!
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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2014, 09:16:21 am »

I said I would sub, but I didn't mean this ealry... so let faust sub in!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2014, 04:39:26 pm »

Sorry, all. Computer is busy dying on me; I have sent in orders now.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2014, 05:07:47 pm »

Great! The Russian envoy has arrived. There may be opportunities for others to sub in later, although I hope that won't be necessary!

The deadline will remain as Tuesday 1 am for now, but as usual let me know if you'd like that changed. I don't mind granting extensions, I just don't want the game to hang in limbo, so please keep us informed of VLA and such.
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2014, 08:30:45 pm »

Sorry, all. Computer is busy dying on me; I have sent in orders now.
Great to have you in. Don't forget to check all your QTs and participate in the scheming as well; that's most of the fun.
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2014, 10:53:15 pm »

First turn's orders are due in about 26 hours!
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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2014, 09:30:25 pm »

i'm observing!  possibly commenting like I did last time.
So did you decide to comment on them this time? I know I have several things already I'll be curious about when the game ends.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2014, 09:34:06 pm »

I haven't had time yet, and I dont' have access to the QTs.  If Walrus gives me access to the QTs, then I might have some freetime in 3 weeks or so to pour over old material...I'd do it in chronological order so I wouldn't have any advance knowledge as i make comments, because I think that would be more interesting from my perspective anyway.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2014, 09:42:43 pm »

There's actually a link in the Speccy QT to a second Eavesdropping Speccy QT, which contains all the discussion QTs. So anyone is welcome to observe and commentate, I was even thinking of making some notes myself. However I would ask that you please don't look at any of them if you are interested in being eligible to sub.

3ish hours until deadline! Get your orders in if you haven't already.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1901)
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2014, 01:00:35 am »

We are still missing orders. You know who you are. I think I speak for all of us when I say:

ಠ_ಠ

I have sent out reminder PMs. I will be awake for another 1-2 hours, and then I will check in the morning before work as well.
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« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2014, 06:45:28 am »

oh yeah! the Speccy QT!  my fault there
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1901)
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2014, 11:01:50 am »

Spring 1901 Order Results:

Austria

A Vie - Tyr
A Bud - Ser
F Tri - Alb

England

Liverpool -> Edinbourg
Edinbourg -> Norway Sea
London -> North Sea

France

F Brest ==> Eng
A MAR ==> Spa
A PAR ==> GAS

Germany

A mun - ruh
A ber - kie
F kie - den

Italy

A ven Holds
A rom -> nap
F nap -> ion

Russia

a mos-ukr
a war-gal
f sev-bla
f stp-gob

Turkey

A(con) moves to (bul)
A(smy) moves to (arm)
F(ank) moves to (bla)

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Fall 1901 begins! I would say that considering the minimum delay, we will try to stay on schedule, and the next deadline will be Friday 9/5 at 1 AM forum time. However as always I am happy to grant extensions.
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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2014, 11:03:29 am »

7 sets of orders, 7 different formats -- I love it!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1901)
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2014, 05:57:47 pm »

Austria and Turkey, I'm not looking for any trouble. I'll just quietly take Romania and stay out of your hair.
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« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2014, 06:23:05 pm »

Austria and Turkey, I'm not looking for any trouble. I'll just quietly take Romania and stay out of your hair.

If you wish to discuss, check the QT's. I'll post later tonight.
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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2014, 07:29:39 pm »

7 sets of orders, 7 different formats -- I love it!
Actually, I managed to have different capitalization schemes on all three of my orders, so there were:

7 sets of orders, 9 different formats.

I'd like to claim I was drunk, but I was actually just tired.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1901)
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2014, 12:41:16 pm »

Orders due in about 12 hours!
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« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2014, 02:48:08 pm »

Everybody submit on time! I want to see the little circles and square move!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1901)
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2014, 01:08:47 am »

Fall 1901 Order Results:

Austria

A Tyr - Tri
F Alb - Gre
A Ser S A Bul - Rum

England

Edi -> Norway
Norway Sea convoys Edi -> Norway
North Sea -> London

France

F ENG ==> BEL
A GAS ==> SPA
A SPA ==> POR

Germany

F den - ska
A kie - den
A ruh - hol

Italy

A ven Holds
A nap -> tun
F ion Convoys  A nap -> tun

Russia

F GoB -> Swe
F Sev -> BLA
A Ukr -> Rum
A Gal S A Ukr -> Rum

Turkey

A(bul) moves to (rum)
A(arm) moves to (sev)
F(ank) moves to (bla)

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            5 centers (2 builds)
England:           4 centers (1 build)
France:             6 centers (3 builds)
Germany:         5 centers (2 builds)
Italy:                4 centers (1 build)
Russia:             5 centers (1 build)
Turkey:            4 centers (1 build)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Winter 1901 begins! The next (24-hour) deadline will be Saturday 9/6 at 1 AM forum time. However as always I am happy to grant extensions.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2014, 01:00:04 am »

Winter 1901 Order Results:

Austria

A Vie
A Bud

England

Fleet in EDI.

France

F BREST
F MAR
A PAR

Germany

F kie, A mun

Italy

Builds A rom

Russia

Build A Moscow

Turkey

Build Fleet in (con)



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Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Spring 1902 begins! The next deadline will be Tuesday 9/9 at 1 AM forum time. However as always I am happy to grant extensions.
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« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2014, 01:27:38 am »

And the format wars continue!
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« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2014, 08:46:23 am »

Army Rome? Interesting build from Italy there.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2014, 09:59:24 am »

Orders due in about 15 hours!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2014, 10:08:54 am »

Army Rome? Interesting build from Italy there.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2014, 01:06:36 am »

Waiting on orders. Reminder PMs sent.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2014, 09:46:25 am »

I was so eager to see things move :(
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2014, 01:32:13 pm »

Spring 1902 Order Results:

Austria

A Tri - Tyr
A Vie - Gal
A Bud S A Vie - Gal
F Gre Holds
A Ser S A Bul - Rum

England

London -> North Sea
Edinburgh -> Norwegian Sea
Norwegian Sea -> Barentz Sea
Norway holds.

France

F BRE ==> ENG
F BEL S F BRE ==> ENG
A SPA ==> GAS
F MAR ==> SPA (sc)
A PAR ==> PIC
A POR Holds

Germany

A hol holds
A den - swe
A mun - tyr
F kie - den
F ska S A den - swe

Italy

F ion Convoys A tun -> apu
A tun -> apu
A ven Holds
A rom Holds

Russia

F Sweden Hold
F Sevastopol -> Black Sea
A Moscow -> Ukraine
A Ukraine -> Galicia
A Galicia -> Bohemia

Turkey

A(bul) moves to (rum)
F(ank) moves to (bla)
F(con) supports F(ank) to (bla)
A(arm) moves to (sev)

Russia must retreat or disband F Swe



Current Gamestate:



Please let me know if I have made any errors.

I will announce the next deadline after Russia has submitted its retreat.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2014, 10:42:06 am »

Sweden retreats to Finland.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2014, 10:56:22 am »

Confirmed. I'll update the map sometime this evening, but let's say that Fall 1902 orders will be due Saturday 9/13 at 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2014, 11:52:54 am »

Minor point- my army supporting Turkey's move is on the map, but not listed in my orders.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1902)
« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2014, 01:14:31 pm »

Minor point- my army supporting Turkey's move is on the map, but not listed in my orders.

Thank you, I've made the change.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2014, 06:35:47 am »

Russia

Sweden retreats to Finland.

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2014, 03:27:18 pm »

Orders due in about 9.5 hours!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2014, 08:23:07 pm »

Jeez, this is moving a bit too fast for me, I barely have time to check QTs.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2014, 08:33:15 pm »

OK...how about moving to 4 days for turns? What do people think?
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2014, 09:08:37 pm »

I'm ok with any deadline. I'm checking QTs on my phone all the time, so whatever is best for other people.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2014, 09:14:43 pm »

I noticed that some people do not talk a lot in the QT. If they posted more with longer deadlines, I would be ok with extending them. For me the current speed is fine.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2014, 09:24:53 pm »

I noticed that some people do not talk a lot in the QT. If they posted more with longer deadlines, I would be ok with extending them. For me the current speed is fine.

Yeah, actually I agree with this. I mean I'm ok with slowing down if people really need more time, but not if it's because people can't be bothered to check QTs. Italy and Russia are basically silent to me.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2014, 09:26:29 pm »

The current speed is fine for me, but if it will help others participate more, I'm ok with an extension.

As others said, having more conversation will probably improve the game. And if it means everyone can get their moves in on time, that's obviously a benefit as well.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2014, 09:59:45 pm »

I'm fine with current pace but if other people want to slow down I think we should. I just like to see the little circles move  :P
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2014, 10:27:19 pm »

I'm fine with current pace but if other people want to slow down I think we should. I just like to see the little circles move  :P

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2014, 12:03:35 am »

Yea sorry for not talking much; I had way too much homework this week. Should be better next week though, and I am fine with the current deadline system.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1902)
« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2014, 12:27:43 am »

Yea sorry for not talking much; I had way too much homework this week. Should be better next week though, and I am fine with the current deadline system.

It's ok. I totally get that and I may be in that situation at some point.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1902)
« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2014, 01:17:35 am »

Fall 1902 Order Results:

Austria

A Gal - Ukr
A Bud - Vie
A Tri S A Bud - Vie
A Ser - Bud
F Gre Holds

England

Norway -> Stp
Barentz supports Norway -> Stp
Norway Sea -> Norway
North Sea -> London

France

F SPA(SC) ==> MAO
A POR ==> SPA
A PIC ==> WAL
F BEL S F DEN ==> NTH
A GAS ==> BUR
F ENG C A PIC ==> WAL

Germany

F den - nth
A swe - nwy
F ska S A swe - nwy
A hol hold
A mun hold

Italy

A ven -> tyr
A apu -> ven
A rom -> tus
F ion Holds

Russia

A Bohemia -> Vienna
F Finland -> St Petersburg
F Sevastopol -> Romania
A Ukraine S F Sevastopol -> Romania
A Moscow -> Warsaw

Turkey

A(arm) moves to (sev)
F(bla) supports  A(arm) to (sev)
A(rum) supports A(arm) to (sev)
F(con) moves to (aeg)

All dislodged units destroyed



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            5 centers (0 builds)
England:           4 centers (0 builds)
France:             6 centers (0 builds)
Germany:         6 centers (1 build)
Italy:                4 centers (0 builds)
Russia:             3 centers (1 disband)
Turkey:            6 centers (2 builds)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Winter 1902 begins! The next deadline is supposed to be in 24 hours, but considering the request to lengthen turns just get them in ASAP. Shouldn't take too long; let's try to keep this game moving.

Afterwards we will probably try a 4-day move cycle, and we can still be flexible going into the future. If you ever need a one-time deadline extension for a particular turn due to temporary business or unavailabilty, let me know, that can be arranged as well.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1902)
« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2014, 07:42:10 am »

Yay, the circles moved!

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1902)
« Reply #69 on: September 13, 2014, 10:55:00 am »

The builds this time are from people who weren't asking for a longer deadline. I think this winter will be done in 24hours.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1903)
« Reply #70 on: September 13, 2014, 12:25:49 pm »

Winter 1902 Order Results:

Germany

A kie

Russia

Disband F Finland

Turkey

Build Army in (con)
Build Fleet in (smy)



Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1903)
« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2014, 11:37:04 am »

Orders due in about 13.5 hours!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1903)
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2014, 12:53:40 am »

Spring 1903 Order Results:

Austria

A Gal - War
A Vie - Boh
A Tri Holds
A Bud S A Tri Hold
F Gre - Ion

England

Norway Sea -> Edinbougrgh
Barentz Sea -> Norway
Sankt Petersburg supports Barenz Sea -> Norway
London holds.

France

A Bur S A Mun
A Wal==>Yor
F Bel==>Eng
F Eng==>Wal
F MAO==>NAO
A SPA==>GAS

Germany

A mun hold
A nwy hold
A hol - kie
A kie - den
F nth S A wal - yor
F ska S A nwy hold

Italy

A tus -> rom
F ion Holds
A ven Supports  A tyr -> tri
A tyr -> tri

Russia

A Bohemia -> Vienna
A Ukraine -> Galicia
A Warsaw S A Ukraine -> Galicia

Turkey

A(rum) moves to (ukr)
A(sev) supports A(rum) to (ukr)
F(aeg) support Austria F(gre) to (ion)
F(smy) moves to (eas)

Austria must retreat or disband A Gal
Italy must retreat or disband F ION



Current Gamestate:



Please let me know if I have made any errors.

I will announce the next deadline after Austria and Italy have submitted their retreats.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1903)
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2014, 06:29:36 pm »

Austria

Retreat to Sil

Italy

F ion retreats to tys

Current Gamestate:



Fall 1903 begins! Let's set the deadline as Monday 9/22, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1903)
« Reply #74 on: September 21, 2014, 03:16:45 am »

Orders due in about 22 hours
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1903)
« Reply #75 on: September 22, 2014, 01:00:28 am »

Fall 1903 Order Results:

Austria

A Sil - War
A Bud - Gal
A Tri Holds
A Vie S A Tri Holds
F Ion - Eas

England

Edinboruthgt -> Liverpool (invalid order; hold issued)
London -> Yorkshire
Barentz -> Sankt Petersburg
Sankt Petersburg -> Moscow

France

A YOR S F NTH ==> EDI
F WAL ==> LON
F ENG S F WAL ==> LON
F NAO ==> LVP
A GAS S A BUR
A BUR S A MUN

Germany

A den - swe
A nwy hold
A kie - rhu
A mun hold
F nth - edi
F ska S A nwy hold

Italy

A tyr -> tri
F tys -> tun
A ven Supports  A tyr -> tri
A rom -> nap

Russia

A Boh-Vie
A Gal S A Boh-Vie
A War S A StP-Mos

Turkey

F (bla) moves to (rum)
F (eas) moves to (ion)
F (aeg) supports Fleet (eas) to (ion)
A (ukr) supports Austria (sil) to (war)
A (sev) moves to (mos)
A (con) holds

Austria must retreat or disband A Tri
Austria must retreat or disband F ION
Russia must retreat or disband A War



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            5 centers (0 builds)
England:           2 centers (1 disband)
France:             8 centers (2 builds)
Germany:         7 centers (1 build)
Italy:                5 centers (1 build)
Russia:             1 center (2 disbands)
Turkey:            6 centers (0 builds)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Russia and Austria, please get your retreat orders in ASAP. For everyone: Technically the winter adjustment should happen after the retreats, but in the interest of moving things along you can submit your builds/disbands now if you like. You can even submit conditional orders contingent on the retreats. If you'd prefer to wait until after the retreat phase, that's fine too.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1903)
« Reply #76 on: September 22, 2014, 12:41:38 pm »

Austria

A Tri Retreats to Ser
F Ion retreats to Adr

Russia

Retreat to Livonia.

I will update the map sometime this evening. Please submit your winter adjustment orders ASAP if you haven't already.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1904)
« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2014, 06:05:18 pm »

Winter 1903 Order Results:

England

disband in Edinbroughgfds

France

F MAR
A PAR

Germany

build A Ber

Italy

Build F rom

Russia

disband the Bohemia and Livonia units

Again, I'll update the map when I get home, but for now Spring 1904 begins! I think we can set the next deadline as Friday 9/26, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1904)
« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2014, 07:23:22 pm »

Current Gamestate:



Deadline stands as Friday 9/26, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1904)
« Reply #79 on: September 25, 2014, 12:30:08 am »

Orders due in about 24.5 hours!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1904)
« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2014, 01:00:12 am »

Spring 1904 Order Results:

Austria

A Bud - Tri
A Vie S A Bud - Tri
A Ser S A Bud - Tri
A War - Gal
F Adr S A Con - Apu

England

Barentz Sea -> St Petersburg
St Petersburg -> Moscow

France

A Yor==>Edi
F Mar==>Lyo
A Par==>Pic
F Lon==>Nth
F Lvp==>Cly
A Gas==>Bur
F Eng S F Lon==>Nth
A Bur==>Ruh

Germany

A swe - fin
A nwy S A swe - fin
F ska S A nwy
F nth - bel
A ruh S F nth - bel
A mun - boh
A ber - sil

Italy

A nap -> apu
F rom -> nap
F tun Holds
A tri Holds
A ven Supports A tri

Russia

A Galicia -> Ukraine

Turkey

A (con) Convoy ->(aeg)->(ion)->(apu)
A (ukr) moves to (mos)
A (sev) supports A (ukr) to (mos)
F (rum) moves to (bla)

Italy must retreat or disband A Tri



Current Gamestate:



Please let me know if I have made any errors.

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1904)
« Reply #81 on: September 26, 2014, 03:23:24 pm »

Italy

A tri -> tyr

I'll update the map in a few hours. Next deadline will be Tuesday 9/30, 1 am forum time.
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« Reply #82 on: September 26, 2014, 09:20:12 pm »

Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1904)
« Reply #83 on: September 29, 2014, 09:39:08 am »

Orders due in about 15 hours!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1904)
« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2014, 01:07:15 am »

Fall 1904 Order Results:

Austria

A Gal - War
A Vie - Tyr
A Ser - Alb
A Tri S A Apu - Ven
A Adr S A Apu - Ven

England

Barentz into noway
St Petersbrg supports that!

France

A Pic==>Bel
F Eng S A Pic==>Bel
A Edi==>Hol
F Nth C A Edi==>Hol
A Bur==>Ruh
F Lyo==>Tys
A Gas==>Bur
F Cly==>Edi

Germany

F bel - eng
A boh - mun
A fin - stp
F ska - den
A ruh - hol
A sil S A boh - mun
A nwy S A fin - stp

Italy

F tun Supports F lyo -> tys
F rom Supports A nap
A nap Holds
A ven Supports A tyr
A tyr Supports A ven

Russia

A Ukr-Rum

Turkey

A mos supports Germany A fin to StB
A sev moves to ukr
F bla moves to rum
F aeg holds
F ion supports France lyo to tys
A apu moves to ven

Italy must retreat or disband A Ven



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            6 centers (1 build)
England           
France:             9 centers (1 build)
Germany:         8 centers (2 builds)
Italy:                3 centers (2 disbands)
Russia
Turkey:            8 centers (2 builds)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Italy, please get your retreat orders in ASAP. We can probably do the winter orders at the same time as before, so everyone please send those along as well.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1904)
« Reply #85 on: September 30, 2014, 01:20:15 am »

Thanks to grujah and jack Rudd for playing! Sucks to be first ones out, but there's always next game :)
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1904)
« Reply #86 on: September 30, 2014, 06:48:19 pm »

Italy

Disband A ven

Please get your winter orders in if you haven't already.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1905)
« Reply #87 on: September 30, 2014, 07:29:19 pm »

Winter 1904 Order Results:

Austria

Build A Bud

France

F Mar

Germany

F Ber
F Kie

Italy

Disband A tyr

Turkey

A (con)
F (smy)

I'll update the map when I get home, but for now Spring 1905 begins!

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1905)
« Reply #88 on: September 30, 2014, 08:53:22 pm »

Current Gamestate:



Deadline stands as Saturday 10/4, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1905)
« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2014, 01:00:09 am »

Spring 1905 Order Results:

Austria

A War Holds
A Bud - Gal
A Vie - Tyr
A Tri - Ven
A Alb - Apu
F Adr C A Alb - Apu

France

F CLY==>NWG
A EDI==>HOL
F NTH C A EDI==>HOL
F ENG S F NTH
F MAR==>PIE
F GAS==>BUR
A BUR==>RUH
F TYS ==> ION
A BEL S A EDI==>HOL

Germany

A stp - fin
A sil - ber
A ruh S A mun
A nwy - stp
A mun S A ruh
F kie - hel
F den S F kie - hel
F ber - kie

Italy

F tun Supports F tys -> ion
A nap Holds
F rom Holds

Turkey

A(ven) moves to (tus)
F(ion) holds
F(aeg) supports F(ion)
A(con) holds
A(mos) moves to (stb)
F(smy) moves to (eas)
F(bla) holds
A(sev) holds

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Fall 1905 begins! The next deadline will be Wednesday 10/8, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1905)
« Reply #90 on: October 08, 2014, 01:00:24 am »

Fall 1905 Order Results:

Austria

A War Holds
A Gal Holds
A Tyr - Pie
A Ven S A Tus - Rom
A Apu S F Ion - Nap
F Adr S F Eas - Ion

France

F TYS S A NAP
F PIE ==> TUS
F NWG S F ENG==>NTH
F ENG==>NTH
F NTH==>HOL
A BUR S A HOL==>RUH
A GAS S A BUR
A HOL==>RUH
A BEL S F NTH==> HOL

Germany

A rhu - bel
A mun - bur
A ber - kie
A nwy hold
A fin S A nwy hold
F kie - hol
F hel S F kie - hol
F den - nth

Italy

F rom Supports F pie -> tus
A nap Supports F rom
F tun -> ion

Turkey

A (tus) moves to (rom)
F (ion) moves to (nap)
F (eas) moves to (ion)
F (aeg) supports F (eas) to (ion)
A (con) moves to (smy)
A (mos) moves to (ukr)
A (sev) holds
F (bla) moves to (con)

All dislodged units destroyed



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            7 centers (1 build)
England           
France:             9 centers (1 build)
Germany:         8 centers (0 builds)
Italy:                2 centers (0 builds)
Russia
Turkey:            8 centers (0 builds)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Austria and France, please get your build orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1906)
« Reply #91 on: October 08, 2014, 09:57:54 am »

Winter 1905 Order Results:

Austria

Build A Tri

France

A Mar

Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1906)
« Reply #92 on: October 08, 2014, 10:16:52 am »

I just want to make it clear that if I'm angry in a QT, it's just for the game. I'm not actually angry at anyone personally. Just wanted to make it clear since it just came up in a QT and I wanted to be sure nothing bad comes out of this.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1906)
« Reply #93 on: October 12, 2014, 12:59:49 am »

Spring 1906 Order Results:

Austria

A War Holds
A Gal Holds
A Tri - Tyr
A Pie - Tus
A Ven S A Rom Hold
A Apu S F Ion - Nap
F Adr S F Aeg - Ion

France

A BUR==>RUH
A MAR==>PIE
A BEL S A BUR==>RUH
F ENG S F NTH
F NWG S F NTH
F NTH S A BEL
A GAS==>PAR
F TUS==>ROM
F TYS S A NAP

Germany

A ruh - bel
A kie - ruh
A nwy hold
A mun S A kie - ruh
A fin S A nwy hold
F hel - nth
F den S F hel - nth
F hol S A ruh - bel

Italy

A nap -> rom
F tun S F tys -> ion

Turkey

F (aeg) moves to (ion)
F (eas) supports F (aeg) to (ion)
F (con) moves to (aeg)
F (ion) moves to (nap)
A (rom) supports F (ion) to (nap)
A (ukr) holds
A (sev) holds
A (smy) holds

Italian A Nap destroyed. France, I have retreated A Bel to Pic, the only available destination -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband the unit instead.



Current Gamestate:



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Fall 1906 begins! The next deadline will be Thursday 10/16, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1906)
« Reply #94 on: October 16, 2014, 12:58:40 am »

Fall 1906 Order Results:

Austria

A War - Pru
A Gal - Sil
A Tyr - Boh
A Ven - Tyr
A Pie - Tus
A Apu - Ven
F Adr - Apu

France

A PIC==>BRE
A PAR S A BUR
A MAR S A BUR
A BUR HOLDS
F TYS S F TUN
F ENG S FNTH
F NTHS S F NWG
F NWG S FNTH
F TUS S F TYS

Germany

A nwy hold
A bel hold
A mun - bur
F hel - nth
A ruh S A bel
A fin S A nwy
F hol S F hel - nth
F den S F hel - nth

Italy

F tun S F tys

Turkey

F (ion) moves to (tys)
F (nap) support F (ion) to (tys)
A(rom) supports F(nap)
F(eas) moves to (ion)
F(aeg supports F(eas) to (ion)
A(smy) holds
A(sev) moves to (ukr)
A(ukr) moves to (mos)

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            7 centers (0 builds)
England           
France:             8 centers (1 disband)
Germany:         9 centers (1 build)
Italy:                1 center (0 builds)
Russia
Turkey:            9 centers (1 build)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

France, Germany, and Turkey, please get your winter orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1907)
« Reply #95 on: October 16, 2014, 04:13:36 pm »

Winter 1906 Order Results:

France

Disband A Bre

Germany

Build A ber

Turkey

I'll be building a fleet in Con.

I will update the map when I get home. But for now, Spring 1907 begins!

The next deadline will be Monday 10/20, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1907)
« Reply #96 on: October 16, 2014, 08:23:15 pm »

Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1907)
« Reply #97 on: October 20, 2014, 01:00:09 am »

Spring 1907 Order Results:

Austria

A Pru - Ber
A Sil S A Pru - Ber
A Tyr - Mun
A Boh S A Tyr - Mun
A Pie - Mar
A Ven S A Rom - Tus
F Apu - Nap

France

F TYS S F TUS
F TUS S F TYS
A MAR S A BUR
A BUR S A MUN
A PAR ==>PIC
F ENG S F NTH
F NWG ==>NAO
F NTH H

Germany

A Ber - Sil
A Mun S A Ber - Sil
A Rhu S A Mun
A Bel hold
A Fin - StP
A Nwy S A Fin - StP
F Den - Bal
F Hel - Den
F Hol S A Bel hold

Italy

F tun S F tys

Turkey

A (rom) moves to (tus)
F (nap) moves to (rom)
F (ion) moves to (tys)
F (aeg) moves to (gre)
F (con) moves to (aeg)
F (eas) holds
A (smy) moves to (con)
A (mos) moves to (lvn)
A (ukr) moves to (mos)

France and Germany, I have retreated F Tus and A Ber to LYO and Kie respectively, the only available destinations -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband your units instead.



Current Gamestate:



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Fall 1907 begins! The next deadline will be Friday 10/24, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1907)
« Reply #98 on: October 20, 2014, 10:57:11 am »

Minor correction: France ordered A Bur S A Mun, while instead I inputted A Bur S A Mar on the map. Fortunately this had no effect on the current gamestate, but I still wanted to make it known. Apologies for the error and I will update the map with the correct orders tonight.


EDIT: Map updated.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1907)
« Reply #99 on: October 24, 2014, 01:00:01 am »

Fall 1907 Order Results:

Austria

A Tyr - Mun
A Boh S A Tyr - Mun
A Ber S A Tyr - Mun
A Sil S A Ber Hold
A Ven - Tri
A Pie S F Rom - Tus
F Nap - Rom

France

F LYO S F TYS
F TYS H
F NAO==> MAO
A MAR S A BUR
A BUR S A MUN
A PIC S A BUR
F ENG S F NTH
F NTH H

Germany

A bel holds
A kie - ber
F den - nth
A stp S A nwy
A ruh S A mun
A nwy S A stp
A mun S A kie - ber
F hol S A bel
F bal S A kie - ber

Italy

F tun S F tys

Turkey

A (tus) moves to (ven)
F (rom) moves to (tus)
F (ion) moves to (nap)
F (gre) moves to (ion)
F (aeg) supports F (gre) to (ion)
F (eas) supports F (gre) to (ion)
A (con) holds
A (lvn) supports (mos)
A (mos) supports (lvn)

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            8 centers (1 build)
England           
France:             8 centers (0 builds)
Germany:         8 centers (1 disband)
Italy:                1 center (0 builds)
Russia
Turkey:            9 centers (0 builds)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Austria and Germany, please get your winter orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1908)
« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2014, 01:29:33 am »

Winter 1907 Order Results:

Austria

Build A Vie

Germany

Disband F hol

Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1908)
« Reply #101 on: October 28, 2014, 02:48:52 am »

Spring 1908 Order Results:

Austria

A Sil - Pru
A Vie - Gal
A Tyr - Mun
A Ber S A Tyr - Mun
A Boh S A Tyr - Mun
A Tri - Ven
A Pie - Mar
F Rom S F Ion - Tys

France

A MAR==>PIE
F LYO S A MAR==>PIE
F MAO==>NAF
F ENG==>MAO
A BUR==>MUN
A PIC==>BUR
F NTH H
F TYS==>TUS

Germany

A bel holds
A mun - ber
F den - swe
A stp S A nwy
A ruh S A bur - mun
A nwy S A stp
A kie S A mun - ber
F bal S A mun -> ber

Italy

F tun S F tys

Turkey

F (ion) moves to (tys)
F (tus) supports F (ion) to (tys)
F (nap) supports F (ion) to (tys)
A (ven) supports (pie)
F (eas) moves to (ion)
F (aeg) supports F (eas) to (ion)
A (lvn) supports (mos)
A (mos) support (lvn)
A (con) holds

Austrian A Pie destroyed.
Austria and France, I have retreated A Ber and F TYS to Sil and WES respectively, the only available destinations -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband your units instead.



Current Gamestate:



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Fall 1908 begins! The next deadline will be Saturday 11/1, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1908)
« Reply #102 on: October 28, 2014, 06:52:08 pm »

Can people check the QTs? I've posted to everyone and only 1 person has replied.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1908)
« Reply #103 on: October 28, 2014, 10:09:32 pm »

Can people check the QTs? I've posted to everyone and only 1 person has replied.

I have not received your post for some reason.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1908)
« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2014, 03:24:36 pm »

Can people check the QTs? I've posted to everyone and only 1 person has replied.

I have not received your post for some reason.

You should have. Check again.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1908)
« Reply #105 on: November 01, 2014, 12:59:13 am »

Fall 1908 Order Results:

Austria

A Tyr - Mun
A Boh S A Tyr - Mun
A Sil S A Tyr - Mun
A Pru - Ber
A Gal - War
A Tri - Vie
F Rom S F Tus Hold

France

F MAO==>SPA(sc)
F NAF==>TUN
F WES S F NAF==>TUN
F LYO S F WES
A PIE==>TYR
A BUR S A KIE==>MUN
A PIC S A BUR
F NTH==>DEN

Germany

A bel hold
A kie - mun
F swe - den
A nwy S A stp
A stp S A nwy
F bal S A ber
A ber S A kie - mun
A rhu S A kie - mun

Italy

F tun S F wes -> tys

Turkey

A (ven) supports France A (pie) to (tyr)
F (tus) moves to (rom)
F (tys) supports F (tus) to (rom)
F (nap) moves to (ion)
F (ion) moves to (adr)
F (aeg) moves to (gre)
A (lvn) moves to (war)
A (mos) supports A (lvn) to (war)
A (con) moves to (bul)

Italian F Tun destroyed.
Austria, I have retreated A Tyr and F Rom to Tri and Nap respectively, the only available destinations -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband your units instead.




Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            5 centers (2 disbands)
England           
France:             9 centers (1 build)
Germany:         9 centers (1 build)
Italy
Russia
Turkey:            11 centers (2 builds)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Please get your winter orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1908)
« Reply #106 on: November 01, 2014, 08:57:34 am »

It was fun playing with you guys!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1908)
« Reply #107 on: November 01, 2014, 08:59:04 am »

You too.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1909)
« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2014, 01:07:43 pm »

Winter 1908 Order Results:

Austria

Disband F Nap
Disband A Tri

France

A Mar

Germany

A Mun

Turkey

A (con)
A (ank)

Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1909)
« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2014, 01:06:08 am »

Spring 1909 Order Results:

Austria

A Vie - Bud
A Boh - Vie
A Gal S A Boh - Vie
A Sil S A Pru Hold
A Pru S A Sil Hold

France

F Nth==>Den
A PIC S A BUR
A BUR S A MUN
A MAR==>PIE
A TYR S F ADR==>TRI
F LYO S A MAR==>PIE
F SPA S F LYO
F WES S F TUN
F TUN S F WES

Germany

A bel Holds
F swe - den
A stp - lvn
A nwy - stp
A ruh S A mun
A mun S A ber
A kie S A ber
A ber S A mun
F bal S A stp - lvn

Turkey

A (war) supports A (mos)
A (mos) supports A (war)
A (ank) moves to (arm)
A (con) moves to (bul)
A (bul) moves to (ser)
A (ven) supports F (adr) to (tri)
F (adr) moves to (tri)
F (rom) holds
F (tys) moves to (nap)
F (ion) holds
F (gre) moves to (alb)

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



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Fall 1909 begins! The next deadline will be Sunday 11/9, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1909)
« Reply #110 on: November 09, 2014, 02:33:17 am »

Fall 1909 Order Results:

Austria

A Pru S A Sil Holds
A Sil S A Pru Holds
A Vie S A Bud Holds
A Bud S A Vie Holds
A Gal - Boh

France

A Tyr==>VEN
A PIE S A TYR==>VEN
F LYO==>TUS
F SPA==>LYO
F WES==>TYS
F TUN S F WES==>TYS
F NTH==>NWY
A PIC S A BUR
A BUR S A PIC

Germany

A lvn - mos
A stp S A lvn - mos
F swe - nwy
A kie - den
F bal C A ber - lvn
A Ber - lvn
A Mun S A Ruh
A Ruh S A Mun
A Bel hold

Turkey

A (mos) supports A (war)
A (war) supports A (mos)
A (arm) moves to (sev)
A (bul) moves to (rum)
A (ser) supports A (bul) to (rum)
F (alb) supports F (tri)
F (tri) supports A (ven)
A (ven) supports F (tri)
F (rom) moves to (tys)
F (nap) supports F (rom) to (tys)
F (ion) supports F (rom) to (tys)

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            2 centers (3 disbands)
England           
France:             9 centers (0 builds)
Germany:         9 centers (0 builds)
Italy
Russia
Turkey:            14 centers (3 builds)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Austria and Turkey, please get your winter orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1910)
« Reply #111 on: November 09, 2014, 12:25:51 pm »

Winter 1909 Order Results:

Austria

Disband A Pru, A Sil, and A Boh

Turkey

A (con)
A (ank)
F (smy)

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1910)
« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2014, 01:54:24 am »

Spring 1910 Order Results:

Austria

A Bud S A Vie
A Vie S A Bud

France

F NTH==>DEN
A PIC S A BUR
A BUR S A PIC
A TYR==>VEN
A PIE S A TYR==>VEN
F TUS==>ROM
F LYO==>TYS
F WES S F LYO==>TYS
F TUN S F LYO==>TYS

Germany

F swe - den
A den - pru
A ber - sil
A stp S A lvn
A ruh S A bel
A mun S A ber - sil
A lvn S A den - pru
A bel S A ruh
F bal C A den - pru

Turkey

A (ven) supports F (nap) to (rom)
F (nap) moves to (rom)
F (tys) moves to (tun)
F (ion) supports F (tys) to (tun)
F (alb) moves to (adr)
F (tri) supports A (ven)
A (ser) supports A (rum) to (bud)
A (rum) moves to (bud)
A (war) supports A (mos)
A (mos) supports A (war)
A (sev) moves to (ukr)
A (con) moves to (bul)
A (ank) moves to (con)
F (smy) moves to (aeg)

France, I have retreated F Tun to NAf, the only available destination -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband your unit instead.



Current Gamestate:



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Fall 1910 begins! The next deadline will be Monday 11/17, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1910)
« Reply #113 on: November 17, 2014, 03:31:50 am »

Waiting on orders.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1910)
« Reply #114 on: November 17, 2014, 07:33:04 pm »

Fall 1910 Order Results:

Austria

A Bud S A Vie
A Vie S A Bud

France

F NAF==>TUN
F WES S F NAF==>TUN
F TUS==>ROM
F TYS==>ION
A TYR==>VEN
A PIE S A TYR==>VEN
A PIC S A BUR
A BUR S A PIC
F NTH==>DEN

Germany

A pru - war
A sil S A pru - war
A stp - mos
A lvn S A stp - mos
A mun hold
A ruh S A mun
A bel hold
F bal - den
F swe hold

Turkey

F (tun) moves to (tys)
F (ion) supports (tun) to (tys)
A (ven) moves to (rom)
F (nap) supports A (ven) to (rom)
F (tri) moves to (ven)
F (adr) supports F (tri) to (ven)
F (aeg) moves to (gre)
A (ser) moves to (tri)
A (bul) moves to (ser)
A (con) moves to (bul)
A (war) moves to (gal)
A (ukr) supports A (mos)
A (mos) holds
A (rum) moves to (bud)

France, I have retreated F TYS to LYO, the only available destination -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband your unit instead.



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            2 centers (0 builds)
England           
France:             9 centers (0 builds)
Germany:         10 centers (1 build)
Italy
Russia
Turkey:            13 centers (1 disband)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Germany and Turkey, please get your winter orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1911)
« Reply #115 on: November 18, 2014, 12:11:57 pm »

Winter 1910 Order Results:

Germany

Build A Ber

Turkey

Disband A (con)

Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1911)
« Reply #116 on: November 22, 2014, 01:08:31 am »

Spring 1911 Order Results:

Austria

A Bud S A Vie
A Vie S A Bud

France

F TUN S F TUS==>TYS
F WES S F TUN
F LYO S F TUS==>TYS
F TUS==>TYS
A PIE==>TUS
A TYR==>PIE
A PIC S A BUR
A BUR S A PIC
F NTH==>DEN

Germany

A sil - gal
A war - ukr
A ber - sil
A stp - mos
A lvn S A stp - mos
F bal - den
F swe Holds
A mun Holds
A bel Holds
A ruh S A bel

Turkey

F (adr) moves to (ven)
F (tri) supports F (adr) to (ven)
A (rom) supports F (adr) to (ven)
F (tys) moves to (nap)
F (nap) moves to (apu)
F (ion) moves to (tun)
F (gre) moves to (ion)
A (mos) moves to (sev)
A (ukr) supports A (gal)
A (ser) moves to (bud)
A (rum) supports A (ser) to (bud)
A (gal) supports A (ser) to (bud)
A (bul) moves to (ser)

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Fall 1911 begins! The next deadline will be Wednesday 11/26, 1 am forum time.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1911)
« Reply #117 on: November 26, 2014, 06:48:21 am »

Waiting on orders.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1911)
« Reply #118 on: November 26, 2014, 12:49:47 pm »

Fall 1911 Order Results:

Austria

A Bud S A Vie
A Vie S A Bud

France

F NTH C A BEL==>DEN
A PIC S A BUR
A BUR S A PIC
F TUN S F TYS==>ION
F TYS==>ION
F LYO==>TYS
F WES S F LYO==>TYS
A TUS==>VEN
A PIE S A TUS==>VEN

Germany

A ber - mun
A bel - pic
A mun - bur
F bal - den
F swe - nwy
A war S A mos
A sil S A war
A mos S A war
A lvn S A mos
A ruh S A mun - bur

Turkey

F (ion) holds
F (gre) supports F (ion)
F (nap) supports  A (rom)
A (rom) supports F (nap)
F (apu) supports F (ven)
F (ven) holds
F (tri) moves to (adr)
A (gal) moves to (bud)
A (rum) supports A (gal) to (bud)
A (ser) supports A (gal) to (bud)
A (ukr) moves to (war)
A (sev) holds
A (bul) holds

Austria, I will retreat A Bud to Tri, the only available destination -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband your unit instead.
France must retreat or disband A Bur



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            2 centers (0 builds)
England           
France:             9 centers (0 builds)
Germany:         11 centers (1 build)
Italy
Russia
Turkey:            12 centers (1 disband)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

France, please get your retreat order in, and Germany and Turkey, please get your winter orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1911)
« Reply #119 on: November 26, 2014, 01:14:37 pm »

Wow I failed there. :P
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1911)
« Reply #120 on: November 26, 2014, 06:46:07 pm »

Gascony
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1912)
« Reply #121 on: November 27, 2014, 10:25:13 am »

France

Gascony

Winter 1911 Order Results:

Germany

F Kie

Turkey

Disband A (bul)

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1912)
« Reply #122 on: November 27, 2014, 12:49:06 pm »

Can I have an extension of a day or so? I'm traveling for the holiday and won't be thinking Diplomacy thoughts.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1912)
« Reply #123 on: November 27, 2014, 01:15:29 pm »

Can I have an extension of a day or so? I'm traveling for the holiday and won't be thinking Diplomacy thoughts.

Sure thing! The revised deadline will be Tuesday 12/2, 1 am forum time. Let me know if you need more time than that.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1912)
« Reply #124 on: November 27, 2014, 03:17:09 pm »

Sorry I'm on vacation and am not checking in very often, I'm fine with the retreat.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1912)
« Reply #125 on: December 02, 2014, 04:20:52 am »

Spring 1912 Order Results:

Austria

A Tri S A Vie
A Vie S A Tri

France

F NTH==>BEL
A PIC==>PAR
A GAS==>PAR
A PIE==>MAR
A TUS==>PIE
F WES==>MAO
F LYO==>SPA(SC)
F TYS==>LYO
F TUN==>WES

Germany

F kie - den
F den - nth
F nwy S F den - nth
A war - ukr
A mos S A war - ukr
A lvn - war
A sil - gal
A mun - tyr
A bel - pic
A bur S A bel - pic
A ruh - bel

Turkey

A (ser) moves to (tri)
F (adr) supports A (ser) to (tri)
F (ven) supports A (ser) to (tri)
A (bud) moves to (vie)
A (rum) moves to (gal)
A (ukr) supports A (rum) to (gal)
A (sev) supports A (ukr)
F (gre) moves to (alb)
F (ion) supports F (nap)
F (nap) supports A (rom)
F (apu) supports F (ven)
A (rom) supports F (nap)

Austrian A Tri destroyed
France must retreat or disband A Pic and F NTH




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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1912)
« Reply #126 on: December 02, 2014, 07:36:57 am »

HOL
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1912)
« Reply #127 on: December 02, 2014, 12:35:24 pm »

France

HOL

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1912)
« Reply #128 on: December 06, 2014, 12:42:33 am »

Fall 1912 Order Results:

Austria

A Vie Holds

France

A PIE S A TRI==>TYR
F LYO==>MAR
A MAR==>GAS
A GAS==>PAR
A BRE S A GAS==>PAR
F MAO==>ENG
F SPA ==>MAO
F WES HOLD
F HOL==>KIE

Germany

A sil - gal
A war S A sil - gal
A mos S A war
A lvn S A mos
A tyr S A vie
F nth - lon
F nwy - nwg
F den - nth
A bur - gas
A pic - bre
A ruh - bur

Turkey

A (sev) supports A (ukr)
A (ukr) supports A (rum) to (gal)
A (rum) moves to (gal)
A (bud) moves to (vie)
A (tri) supports A (bud) to (vie)
F (alb) supports A (tri)
F (ion) moves to (aeg)
F (adr) moves (ion)
F (ven) moves to (adr)
A (rom) moves to (ven)
F (nap) holds
F (apu) supports A (rom) to (ven)

No retreats



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria:            1 center (0 builds)
England           
France:             9 centers (0 builds)
Germany:         11 centers (0 builds)
Italy
Russia
Turkey:            13 centers (1 build)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Turkey, please get your winter orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1913)
« Reply #129 on: December 06, 2014, 03:45:42 am »

Winter 1912 Order Results:

Turkey

Build A (con)

Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Fall 1913)
« Reply #130 on: December 10, 2014, 01:46:38 am »

Spring 1913 Order Results:

Austria

A Vie Holds

France

F KIEL HOLDS
F ENG==>PIC
A PAR S F ENG==>PIC
A BRE S A PAR
A MAR==>GAS
A PIE==>TYR
F LYO==>MAR
F MAO==>IRI
F WES==>MAO

Germany

A war S A sil - gal
A tyr - tri
A sil - gal
A ruh - kie
A pic - bel
F nwg - nao
F nth S F lon - eng
A mos - ukr
F lon - eng
A lvn - mos
A bur - bel

Turkey

A (con) moves to (bul)
A (rum) moves to (gal)
A (ukr) supports A (rum) to (gal)
A (sev) supports A (ukr)
A (bud) supports A (tri) to (vie)
A (tri) moves to (vie)
A (ven) moves to (tyr)
F (adr) holds
F (nap) moves to (rom)
F (apu) moves to (nap)
F (ion) holds
F (aeg) holds
F (alb) moves to (tri)

German A Pic destroyed
Austria, I have retreated A Vie to Boh, the only available destination -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband your unit instead.




Current Gamestate:



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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1913)
« Reply #131 on: December 14, 2014, 02:50:17 am »

Fall 1913 Order Results:

Austria

A Boh-Vie

France

F KIE==>DEN
F IRI S F MAO
F MAO S F PIC==>ENG
F PIC==>ENG
A PAR==>BUR
A GAS S A PAR==>BUR
A BRE S A PAR
A PIE==>TYR
F MAR HOLDS

Germany

A Bur - Bel
A Tyr - Mun
A Ruh - Kie
F Eng - Lon
F Nth - Edi
F Nao hold
A Gal - Ukr
A War S A Gal - Ukr
A Mos S A Gal - Ukr
A Lvn S A Mos

Turkey

A (vie) supports A (bud)
A (bud) supports A (vie)
A (rum) moves to (gal)
A (ukr) supports A (rum) to (gal)
A (sev) supports A (ukr)
A (bul)  moves to (ser)
A (ven) supports France A (pie) to (tyr)
F (adr) supports F (alb) to (tri)
F (alb) moves to (tri)
F (aeg) moves to (ion)
F (ion) moves to (tys)
F (nap) moves to (rom)
F (rom) moves to (tus)

Turkey, I have retreated A Ukr to Rum, the only available destination -- please let me know ASAP if you would prefer to disband your unit instead.



Current Gamestate:



Winter Adjustments:

Austria
England           
France:             8 centers (1 disband)
Germany:         12 centers (1 build open)
Italy
Russia
Turkey:            14 centers (1 build)

Please let me know if I have made any errors.

Please get your winter orders in ASAP.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Winter 1913)
« Reply #132 on: December 14, 2014, 07:09:02 am »

Thanks for playing, everyone!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #133 on: December 14, 2014, 04:03:40 pm »

Winter 1913 Order Results:

France

Disband A Tyr

Germany

A Ber

Turkey

Build A (con)

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #134 on: December 14, 2014, 10:27:29 pm »

Just a note, I'll be leaving for Florida next sunday. I'll have internet connection most likely once I'm there, but we're driving from Montreal, so Sunday/Monday I may not have access to internet.

That being said, I'm willing to accept a three way tie with the current game state.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #135 on: December 15, 2014, 12:48:13 am »

That being said, I'm willing to accept a three way tie with the current game state.
I don't think, I can force a solo either, so I accept a three way tie.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #136 on: December 15, 2014, 07:02:09 pm »

I also agree to a 3-way draw.

Good game everybody!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #137 on: December 15, 2014, 07:04:38 pm »

Meeeeeeeeeeeh now Walrus wins his bet. On the other hand, liopoil loses his.

Christmas spirit, ruining games since forever.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #138 on: December 15, 2014, 07:50:12 pm »

BOOOO! Kingzog, you had it! :(
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #139 on: December 15, 2014, 08:36:40 pm »

The 3-way tie has been accepted. Peace at last!

Congratulations to France, Germany, and Turkey! Well done.

Thanks for the game everyone. I had a great time moderating and I hope you enjoyed playing. Here's a link to the speccy thread if you're interested:

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/973G3bxzgRQYM
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #140 on: December 15, 2014, 08:44:31 pm »

Thanks Walrus, I had fun playing.

I'll post a bit more on my thoughts throughout the game later. If you want to reveal the private threads, I would be fine with that.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #141 on: December 15, 2014, 08:45:26 pm »

There are links to the private threads in the speccy thread.

Threadcursion!
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« Reply #142 on: December 15, 2014, 08:47:49 pm »

BOOOO! Kingzog, you had it! :(
Nah, we had the stalemate line all ready to go this turn.

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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #143 on: December 15, 2014, 08:58:38 pm »

BOOOO! Kingzog, you had it! :(

Maybe, but I think attacking France lets Germany gain ground. I'd need to set up to get most of my centers at once, but Germany and France would see that coming a mile away.

Did the spectators have access to the other threads? I'd like to see the other countries threads.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (Spring 1914)
« Reply #144 on: December 15, 2014, 09:14:03 pm »

BOOOO! Kingzog, you had it! :(

Maybe, but I think attacking France lets Germany gain ground. I'd need to set up to get most of my centers at once, but Germany and France would see that coming a mile away.

Did the spectators have access to the other threads? I'd like to see the other countries threads.
They're linked from the first post in the spectator thread. And now I'm going to do an archive binge.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #145 on: December 15, 2014, 09:54:08 pm »

Boo hiss!

But really, good game guys.
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« Reply #146 on: December 15, 2014, 10:03:35 pm »

For some closure, here's a Civilization-style retrospective on the game:



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« Reply #147 on: December 15, 2014, 10:25:41 pm »

Thoughts from my first full, 7-player game:

-Breaking through the Franco-German border is hard.

-It is apparently impossible to backstab an ally without making at least one critical error (I think my mini-stab of 1-center Italy was the only one that didn't involve something going horribly wrong, though at least the Austrian retreat to Naples didn't affect anything long term).

-We actually managed a great pace; thanks again to everyone involved.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #148 on: December 15, 2014, 10:56:19 pm »

I really enjoyed this, despite the last couple turns neing during end of term. Still thanks for everyone who played. I'd totally like to play again, but I don't think I would have time to mod a game. During term I can sit to do orders and negotiate, but not to make sure things run smoothly.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #149 on: December 16, 2014, 12:03:27 am »

Thoughts on the game
In the opening, I had hoped that England and France would fight each other more, in particular after the Eng opening, but England continued to press North even after France had moved several units towards him.

This lead to France being a monster after the opening and probably also to his stab. I don't know if a more conservative move eastwards would have prevented the stab, but I have the feeling France wanted to press his luck. Crucial to the eventual defense were two things: a) that I order A Ruh hold, which gave time to retreat my units and b) the successful negotiation to get StP to build the fleet to press against France. I always feared France would move more creatively (F Nth - Ska), but ultimately I could repel and even turn the tide against France.

Then came the next turning point, where I tried to ask Austria, whether he would allow me a full blown attack against France, but after he didn't reply for a few days, I guessed correctly that he would stab me. Due to the DMZ between us and the build in Berlin that he overlooked(?), I could defend here as well. What helped was that I always kept contact with France, so that a peace was treaty was easy. I still don't see the point in the attack. If Austria wants to win, it needs to attack Turkey in this situation and for a 3-way tie, you can use Germany as easy as France.

The next stab was the logical one from Turkey against Austria. I managed to grab some centers in Russia, which put me in the position were I could potentially reach a solo. It was still a long shot and I had to move forward aggressively, so that I would gain centers fast enough to fill the back of my line before Turkey would tear down Austria completely. Unfortunately, in the turn after the stab I screwed up. The annoying thing is that I would have submitted the same moves then France did in his position, but decided against the proper answer. After that I tried beating his line a bit, but without success so that I had to settle for the tie.

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-My plan had France not stabbed me after the opening was to attack Austria and leave Turkey in peace, France would have eventually stabbed Italy and then I would need a partner to prevent a French solo
-I'm puzzled the A/T alliance worked that well, because the position on the board would have allowed for an easy 2-3 center grab immediately with the stab.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #150 on: December 16, 2014, 12:54:03 am »

If you read our QT, Austria and I wanted to stay allied because we figured you guys would all be counting on a stab. This left us with time and superior forces to secure a dual victory, while you guys held less of the board, with a less secure alliance. I would have 100% followed through with this, but Austria's unsuccessful attack on Germany let France move Fleets to create a stalemate in the Med. If he had waited even 1 turn on the attack I probably could have had enough presence to keep pushing in the Med and secure Tunisia. Once the attack failed stabbing was the only way out of a 4 way tie.

I also fully trusted Austria. Only right near the beginning was there a good chance for him to stab me, but I knew Russia was a bigger threat, being both aggressive and silent.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #151 on: December 16, 2014, 10:21:36 am »

Some more retrospective:

I always fully intended to stab Germany if possible; I wanted to make sure I was the only one who could build fleets outside of the Mediterranean. I was definitely counting on one of Turkey or Austria to take advantage of the war (either to hit Germany or to start fighting each other, which would leave me free from worry on that front). I had always been a little suspicious of Germany from the opening (where he seemed eager to get England and I to commit to fighting each other while he stayed on the sidelines), although once he finally committed he was solidly helpful. Also, with England dead, there was no longer an excuse for my fleets to hang out up there, so I knew it was now or never. Sadly, I botched my opening stab, and A/T seemed content to beat up on Italy while we fought each other. Ironically, Austria finally made his move right after Germany and I had effectively negotiated a peace treaty; if he had done it a few turns earlier, I probably would have continued fighting, but as it was I wasn't really in a position to capitalize.

Germany and I were talking to each other pretty much the entire time we were fighting (both times), which made it easy to guard against a Turkish or Austrian solo. Sadly my negotiations with Austria and Turkey were less strong (although I was amused, reading the QTs, that both Turkey and I decided to play the angry, hurt victim at the same time as a negotiating tactic), which may have had something to do with their decision to stay out. Like Germany, I expected the A/T alliance to fall apart when they were no longer actively fighting, which also surprised me. I had been halfway expecting the German stab (indeed, I was planning on using my next possible builds to defend against it), but it still caught me well out of position. I had initially planned on retreating to Ska (in the hopes of either tying down 2 fleets for one, or grabbing a center), but when Germany left Hol open by mistake, it was too good to resist. Which was probably what most doomed Germany's attack; if his A Ruhr had blocked me on my stab, my F Kiel (and thus avoiding losing a unit that turn) saved me from his stab. Plus I was able to work reasonably well with Turkey (who agreed not to grab Tunis/the Med until after I had stabilized my lines against Germany).

Germany and I had worked out to form another stalemate line against Turkey (which probably would have gone into effect this coming turn, especially with Turkey's somewhat threatening final moves) if the game had gone on. At the same time, I was somewhat nervous about another German stab potentially reducing me to playing kingmaker. So I was very glad when Turkey mentioned in a QT that he was planning on proposing a 3-way draw. Once again, thanks to everyone who participated; I had a lot of fun and learned a ton.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #152 on: December 16, 2014, 11:32:28 am »

If there was another game, I would be in favor of staying at three-day deadlines, the four-day deadlines made it drag a little for me.
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« Reply #153 on: December 16, 2014, 01:39:05 pm »

I also fully trusted Austria. Only right near the beginning was there a good chance for him to stab me, but I knew Russia was a bigger threat, being both aggressive and silent.
Actually, I expected you to stab him :) Immediately after he stabbed me, you could have taken three of his centers within a year. I had considered to ask for it, if I hadn't managed to negotiate a peace with France. It also helped that you told me that France and Austria weren't collaborating.
Independent of that, I don't think a planned 2-way tie works out. Usually, close to the end the 3rd nation threatens to commit suicide.

I was definitely counting on one of Turkey or Austria to take advantage of the war (either to hit Germany or to start fighting each other, which would leave me free from worry on that front).
In my opinion, your biggest mistake in this game was that you didn't ask for it. Imho, you should hardly ever assume that they will act. The problem was that you were the strongest power after the opening, so that they had no incentive to help you. They may have taken some crumbs, if I had collapsed though.

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I had always been a little suspicious of Germany from the opening (where he seemed eager to get England and I to commit to fighting each other while he stayed on the sidelines), although once he finally committed he was solidly helpful.
I was likewise always suspicious of your moves as well. In particular that you really pressed to leave the channel after you just took it. I had also offered you to commit to an attack in fall 1901 already, which would have worked out and hastened the downfall of England.

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Ironically, Austria finally made his move right after Germany and I had effectively negotiated a peace treaty; if he had done it a few turns earlier, I probably would have continued fighting, but as it was I wasn't really in a position to capitalize.
It was the logical time for a stab. Essentially, the tides had turned against you and I was gaining ground. Perhaps a year later would have been better.

If there was another game, I would be in favor of staying at three-day deadlines, the four-day deadlines made it drag a little for me.
I agree that the faster pace in the beginning was better. I would even consider to reduce the deadlines in the mid/late game, because the alliances are more clear and there is less to coordinate.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #154 on: December 16, 2014, 02:04:54 pm »

I'm not sure if I would like to mod again, but I would love to play. I didn't know if people needed a cool down before starting the next one.
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« Reply #155 on: December 16, 2014, 02:23:15 pm »

Well like I said I'll be on the road sunday, but otherwise I don't need a long cooldown. Three day deadlines are good. Maybe the first year should be longer, since tons of negotiating goes on, but many rounds, especially near the end, didn't need to be four days.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #156 on: December 16, 2014, 10:45:11 pm »

I don't think I'll have time for another game for a while. So I'll just watch from the sidelines ;D.
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« Reply #157 on: December 17, 2014, 12:14:31 am »

Oh and huge thanks to Walrus for modding!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #158 on: December 17, 2014, 12:22:41 am »

Oh and huge thanks to Walrus for modding!

Right! Everything was really smooth. Thanks!
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #159 on: December 18, 2014, 06:24:11 am »

Sorry I didn't have more time to comment and say stuff; looking over Walrus's gifs, this looks like the start was super interesting.  The middle/end was sort of a grind, but sometimes games get that way. 
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #160 on: January 19, 2015, 06:51:58 pm »

/bump because I'd like a new game to start. Is there anyone willing to mod?
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #161 on: January 19, 2015, 07:10:08 pm »

If I weren't so busy I would give a shot at modding, but I don't think I could keep it organized along with all my other stuff. I could play though.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #162 on: January 19, 2015, 07:15:33 pm »

I'd love to play as well! I'd rather not mod twice in a row...
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #163 on: January 28, 2015, 06:32:55 am »

I'd love to play! I have only ever played this twice IRL, so I don't think I'm really qualified to mod though.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2015, 12:24:30 pm »

I could maaaaybe mod starting later in February when my schedule clears up a bit more, but I'd still rather play.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #165 on: January 28, 2015, 03:45:02 pm »

If we have no takers for mod we could run a game on another website. It'd be nice to keep it in-house and have the personal touch, but nobody should be coerced into the job.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #166 on: April 01, 2015, 11:07:37 pm »

Remember those good times when we played Diplomacy? Man, those were the days.
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« Reply #167 on: April 01, 2015, 11:15:11 pm »

I'd play again
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« Reply #168 on: April 01, 2015, 11:49:33 pm »

Still would play again as well.
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« Reply #169 on: April 02, 2015, 09:24:19 am »

would watch again.
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« Reply #170 on: April 02, 2015, 01:09:51 pm »

I still want to play! (though not again)
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« Reply #171 on: April 02, 2015, 01:22:02 pm »

I would play again.

I'm not that interested in modding a vanilla game, but if there is interest in playing a variant, I would be willing to mod.
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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #172 on: April 03, 2015, 09:34:02 am »

I might be interested in a variant. What exactly did you have in mind?
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« Reply #173 on: April 03, 2015, 10:11:35 am »

I might be interested in a varient, depending on what it is. I have little experience with normal Diplomacy, so I'd be just as interested in a vanilla game.
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« Reply #174 on: April 03, 2015, 04:06:51 pm »

I would like to try a different map. The 1900 variant is based on the standard diplomacy map with little changes to make the game more interactive.

There are only two significant rule changes compared to normal diplomacy:
a) You may move around south Africa, i.e. Egypt - Atlantic is a valid move. This move is at half strength.
b) If Russia controls only 1-3 of its homecenters (i.e. not all or none), it may have one additional unit.

A few minor rule changes are usually trivial to understand
c) There are some crossings where armies may move across water, e.g. Clyde - Ireland.
d) The colonies (Algeria and Egypt) are supply centers associated with France/England but not home centers (so no building).

The rest are changes to the map and/or starting units. Here is the map and a bit more detailed description of the reasoning behind the changes can be found here.


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Re: Diplomacy 4: This time, it's personal (France, Germany, and Turkey win!)
« Reply #175 on: April 03, 2015, 04:21:30 pm »

I'll play this map, but I'd need a better image than that and labels for the territories. Things are hard to see.
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« Reply #176 on: April 03, 2015, 04:36:49 pm »

Yeah I'd be down! You should open up a sign-up thread if you feel like it. /in of course
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« Reply #177 on: April 03, 2015, 05:03:16 pm »

Yeah I'd be down! You should open up a sign-up thread if you feel like it. /in of course
Done

I'll play this map, but I'd need a better image than that and labels for the territories. Things are hard to see.
I added a link to a high-res map to the signup thread.
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