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[AndrewisFTTW]

Makingfun just charged $4 to my credit card for 40 gokoins andddd..... I still have no gokoins.

Did you clear your cache?

How would I go about doing that?

[jsh357]

Using Chrome?

Ctrl + Shift + delete, check "Cached images and files" and hit "Clear Browsing Data."  Then refresh the page.

[Witherweaver]

Prince isn't in the Kingdom Generator thing that Salvager has.  Unless I don't have the latest version of Salvager?

[AndrewisFTTW]

Still no gokoins. If it's not resolved tomorrow I'll complain.

[Joseph2302]

Prince isn't in the Kingdom Generator thing that Salvager has.  Unless I don't have the latest version of Salvager?

It is if you have the beta version (2.5.4.9), it works for me on Chrome.

Still no gokoins. If it's not resolved tomorrow I'll complain.

If you ask David on MakingFuns Forum, he tends to complain to the engineers, and it gets fixed quite quickly.

[jsh357]

I would jump on it if I were you.  Issues like that should not be happening period, and they don't need to be shown patience with such things.

[Witherweaver]

Ah, I don't have the beta version, only the latest release (2.5.4.5).

Not that I can effectively play on Goko anyway~

[Holger]

I am wary of this change they made about Bots using the Pro Rating now, but whatever.  Those ratings probably won't be around forever anyway.

As I understand it, it's (supposed to be) only a change of interface. You could always play bots using pro or casual as you prefered, when using the multiplayer  lobby. 
The most user-friendly way would obviously be to have "Play bots" buttons for both casual and pro games; maybe next year...

Or do you mean the fact that the top 50 of the Pro leaderboard is now dominated by (to me) unknowns, many of which sound like Adventure bots? Maybe MF is now mixing up adventures and pro games, or is there an explanation for this?? I don't think it can be just because there are more bot pro games now...

The fact that that happened is proof of my concern.  There is no way Stef, for instance, should be ranked as low as he is with these changes.  They should have at least worked out the issues before changing over.

Yes, the leaderboard is totally messed up now; but I see no connection to the reported change of the "Play vs. Bots" button. Playing bots in pro games was possible before, only more tedious and probably less known; I've played lots of bot pro games. But it was hard to get above a ranking of ~5500 by only playing bots in my experience, because the bots are ranked so low (the non-serf bots usually have pro ratings between 2000 and 4000.)  And lots of the top leaderboard entries sound like Adventure bots, which shouldn't ever have a pro ranking.

Edit: I've checked: Neither of the current top 3 players (which do not sound like bots) is listed on Isotropish, so they must be bugs (or recognized cheaters), I think.
Some non-existing players/"adventure bots" have been at the top of the pro leaderboard for weeks, so this is probably a slightly older bug (though it seems to have become far worse):

Hello,

who is Maiden Abigail, Squire Edwin, Maiden Marjoria?

Is this from Goko or is this some new kind of exploit?

[AndrewisFTTW]

I would jump on it if I were you.  Issues like that should not be happening period, and they don't need to be shown patience with such things.

You're right, I'll do that now.

[2.71828.....]

I would jump on it if I were you.  Issues like that should not be happening period, and they don't need to be shown patience with such things.

You're right, I'll do that now.

yeah, people on top of the leaderboard shouldn't be left waiting

[AndrewisFTTW]

I would jump on it if I were you.  Issues like that should not be happening period, and they don't need to be shown patience with such things.

You're right, I'll do that now.

yeah, people on top of the leaderboard shouldn't be left waiting

How dare you speak out of turn. Now bow. Bow before me!

[SirD]

Prince and duration cards. I set aside a Haven and it worked for one turn. Then it stopped and the prince did nothing ever again.

Is this a bug or is prince not supposed to work with duration cards. Thanks.

[Joseph2302]

Prince and duration cards. I set aside a Haven and it worked for one turn. Then it stopped and the prince did nothing ever again.

Is this a bug or is prince not supposed to work with duration cards. Thanks.

It's correct, think a proper answer is in http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11290.0

[SirD]

It's correct, think a proper answer is in http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11290.0

Thank you Joseph. This is clear now. Have a nice day.

[Beyond Awesome]

I have played against a few opponents who tried setting aside a duration with Prince. I guess it is a common mistake to make.

[Awaclus]

With Hermit, the implementation assumes that you're making the play that's usually correct (not trashing Hermit).

http://dominionlogs.goko.com/20140904/log.50bfbb9ae4b0a380e35fa23b.1409821737631.txt

---------- awaclus: turn 10 ----------
awaclus - duration Prince
awaclus - plays Hermit
awaclus - gains Storeroom
awaclus - plays Treasury
awaclus - draws Curse
awaclus - gains Madman
awaclus - places Treasury on top of deck
awaclus - draws Treasury, Soothsayer, Conspirator, Urchin, Gold

[qmech]

With Hermit, the implementation assumes that you're making the play that's usually correct (not trashing Hermit).

http://dominionlogs.goko.com/20140904/log.50bfbb9ae4b0a380e35fa23b.1409821737631.txt

---------- awaclus: turn 10 ----------
awaclus - duration Prince
awaclus - plays Hermit
awaclus - gains Storeroom
awaclus - plays Treasury
awaclus - draws Curse
awaclus - gains Madman
awaclus - places Treasury on top of deck
awaclus - draws Treasury, Soothsayer, Conspirator, Urchin, Gold

I'll make explicit what's not entirely clear from the quoted log: Awaclus goes on to gain a Madman a turn from his Princed Hermit.

[Joseph2302]

Fun thing to do on a possession turn: set aside opponent's Princes, so they become useless.

http://dominionlogs.goko.com/20140904/log.5062f3dc51c3843e7939eb9f.1409834670992.txt

They resigned straight after though.

[A Drowned Kernel]

With Hermit, the implementation assumes that you're making the play that's usually correct (not trashing Hermit).

http://dominionlogs.goko.com/20140904/log.50bfbb9ae4b0a380e35fa23b.1409821737631.txt

---------- awaclus: turn 10 ----------
awaclus - duration Prince
awaclus - plays Hermit
awaclus - gains Storeroom
awaclus - plays Treasury
awaclus - draws Curse
awaclus - gains Madman
awaclus - places Treasury on top of deck
awaclus - draws Treasury, Soothsayer, Conspirator, Urchin, Gold

But what if I want to reveal market square? Curse you goko!

[werothegreat]

Fun thing to do on a possession turn: set aside opponent's Princes, so they become useless.

http://dominionlogs.goko.com/20140904/log.5062f3dc51c3843e7939eb9f.1409834670992.txt

They resigned straight after though.

Who the hell saves Coin tokens after their opponent buys a Possession?

[pingpongsam]

Sent Goko $4, have Prince, rewarded by vaulting to #13 on the leaderboard.
Still cannot buy 2 of the promos because they are not available for Gokoins and there is no means to get the necessary number of VP tokens.

[pingpongsam]

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140911/log.5095c9e7e4b0ad8504cc6c50.1410441654931.txt

My opponent learned a lesson for me; don't Prince a Knight you'll leave a widowed Prince.

I feel proud of the board design. I felt it encouraged several options for play and the Knights were a goto option for disrupting your opponent's plan (just don't Prince them!).

I was surprised at how pedestrian a Princed Bridge felt. I will say, though, having 2 Princed cards is pretty great. I think the card is really a lot of fun with the right board to encourage going for it.


Edit: How do I do that thing where all the cards are graphically displayed?

[pingpongsam]

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140911/log.5095c9e7e4b0ad8504cc6c50.1410443489093.txt

Same set again, quite a fun game. Prince is definitely a card to go for in this board.

[qmech]

Edit: How do I do that thing where all the cards are graphically displayed?

You find the game here and click on "Kingdom".

[Holger]

Edit: How do I do that thing where all the cards are graphically displayed?

You find the game here and click on "Kingdom".

Sorry for the digression, but does log search work for everyone else? When searching with my player name, it doesn't find any games I played since New Year's Day; but funnily, some appear when searching for my opponent's name...