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« on: August 13, 2014, 08:10:44 pm »
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I'm pretty interested in film. I'll be starting an animation degree in september, and recently have been watching some movies an really watching the directing, colour choices and composition. After I watched Drive (amazing movie), I watched Only God Forgives, which is Nicolas Winding Refn's movie made after Drive.

EDIT: Also, if anyone else has good recommendations for movies or wants to talk about a movie in depth (or less in depth), feel free to post about those movies. Just keep things in spoilers so that people who haven't seen it can watch before reading.

I was wondering, firstly, if there are any other people here who really enjoy movies (I know people do) and are interested in things like directing, cinematography and writing in films? And secondly if anyone else has seen Only God Forgives and what did they think of it? I really enjoyed it, but I know it got mixed reviews, and some people really hated it, or really liked it. It's definitely more of an artistic film, not meant as a blockbuster.

I'll put what I thought in spoilers as not to ruin anyone who is going to watch it. And don't read it if you haven't seen it. It's meaningless if you haven't seen the movie. If you are going to watch it, just know that there is gore and violence. Drive was just over the top gore, and not too much of it. OGF is really messed up. It's not easy stuff to handle, just so you're warned.

Without question, the directing, colour choices and pacing are all great. The movie is not meant to be fast paced, and I found many of the scenes suspenseful and extremely tense. The lack of dialogue is one thing that is really interesting. Drive also had little dialogue, but this was taken to another level with OGF. So much about the main character Julian is told without words through things he does, and the "visions" he has about himself. His presumably incestual relationship with his mother, his inability to form normal connections with other people, or to have a normal sexual relationship. These are shown by the way he acts, and the way he see's himself in his visions. This is one point where I thought the movie was weak. The "visions" certain characters have are not well distinguished from the reality in the movie making it a little difficult to tell the difference at first. I'll have to watch it again sometime, since now I'm aware of what was real or not. I'll come back to this when I do. Perhaps I'll have a little more to say.

Another really strong point of the film was the music. I think it's the same writer for the music as in Drive? I'm not sure I'll have to look it up. But both Drive and OGF have great scores. The interesting thing in OGF is the Thai karaoke singing. I had to look it up, since it appears multiple times in the movie. Apparently it's an almost religious experience in Thailand, and a big part of the culture. I think if I had known that while watching it would have made more of an impact, since it's the ex-cop (God) who is singing at the karaoke bar. I'll have to watch it again with this knowledge.

The movie is pretty heavy on symbolism, the main one being hands, which there are a lots of shots of. While watching it's really hard to tell what the meaning of the hands are. My analysis is this. I think they represent the motives of the characters, in a sense. Or their ambitions. Early in the movie Julian raises his hands in a fighting pose next to the martial arts statue, believing himself a fighter, someone of strength. When he fights the ex-cop he raises his hands to fight, while the cop does not, showing both of their intentions. Julian is ready to fight, the cop has no intention of hurting him. Only after thoroughly beating Julian does the cop raise his hands, showing that now he is angry, ready to fight Julian and his mother, who has witnessed the fight. We also get shots of the same statue, showing who really the statue is representing. At the end of the movie, when Julian finds his mother dead, he puts his hand inside her stomach, presumably her womb. He feels the need to undo what he has done, to be reborn again. At the end, the cop cuts off Julian's hands, which is fulfilling his rebirth. Julian accepted losing his hands, finally finding peace with himself. There's more to this I'm sure, as there are other scenes where hands seem to be on important.

Anyway, those are mostly first impressions. I watched the movie a couple days ago, so I had some time to think about it.
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Re: Movies: Any movie buffs?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 08:52:59 pm »
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I tried watching Nicolas Winding Refn's Valhalla Rising a few years ago, but it was a bit too much for me to handle at that age. It seemed like a pretty powerful movie though, both aesthetically and thematically, maybe I should give his works another try.

A movie that has recently intrigued me a lot is M dot Strange's Heart String Marionette. It's... intriguing. I would like to say that it's my favorite movie, but I still don't understand it well enough to be sure. Definitely recommend it, though it should be noted that you might have to watch it at least twice before it starts making any sense.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2014, 12:41:21 am »
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My mom worked part time for 3 video stores from the late 80s to the early-mid 90s. I worked for Hollywood Video from 1999-2001. I worked for General Cinemas from 2001-2002. I worked for Blockbuster from 2002-2003. I worked for Loews (then AMC) from 2004-2007. I've worked for Atlas Cinemas from 2007-now. One might say I enjoy movies.

My entire college/university education is in civil engineering.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2014, 01:14:18 am »
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My mom worked part time for 3 video stores from the late 80s to the early-mid 90s. I worked for Hollywood Video from 1999-2001. I worked for General Cinemas from 2001-2002. I worked for Blockbuster from 2002-2003. I worked for Loews (then AMC) from 2004-2007. I've worked for Atlas Cinemas from 2007-now. One might say I enjoy movies.

My entire college/university education is in civil engineering.

Well then mr. movie man, got any good ones I should see?
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2014, 02:01:49 am »
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Guardians of the Galaxy.

Honestly though, I enjoy movies enough to understand that a lot of what I like is not what movie snobs consider artistic. I also know that most of those artistic films, while great in structure and story, don't need a 30-60 foot wide screen to make their point.

I think Avatar was grossly overrated, but everything it did was done with style most appreciated in the experience of a cinema.

I think Christopher Nolan, M. Night Shamalanadingdong, and Michael Bay think THEY are why people see their movies, and shove it in your face that you are watching one of their movies every chance they get.

I immensely enjoy the recent Marvel Studios franchise.

I am a huge Disney fan. From the parks to the animation to the decision to bring Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm under the mouse ears.

I think the AFI lists are good starting points for quality content connoisseurs. I think the IMDB top 250 is a good starting point for those wanting a taste of American Blockbusters.

So what do I suggest you see? It depends on what you like. If you like Guy Ritchie, watch Snatch. If you like Kubrick, watch Dr Strangelove. If you like Spielburg, watch Raiders of the Lost Ark. If you like James Cameron, watch Abyss.

Give me a clue and I can help find something you enjoy. And if you enjoy anything, watch The Room.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2014, 04:14:41 am »
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I enjoy a wide variety of movies.

From the ancient IMDB top dogs like Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon and 12 Angry Men to 00's action pulp like Transformers.
I even watched 7 Samurai on DVD which has a fifteen minute break burned into the movie. Out of respect I decided to take that break and grab some popcorn. It's over 3 hours long, so that break was much appreciated.

I don't watch that many movies lately, but I tend to watch the superhero ones, because if you want a guaranteed box office hit, just make Batman 12 or Superman 7. I'm still waiting for Aquaman with Vincent Chase as the lead.

I'm not particularly snobbish about the movies I watch and like. I like James Bond and Disney movies (especially the old ones), sometimes a romantic comedy with the Mrs or a good documentary.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2014, 10:23:37 am »
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Guardians of the Galaxy.

Honestly though, I enjoy movies enough to understand that a lot of what I like is not what movie snobs consider artistic. I also know that most of those artistic films, while great in structure and story, don't need a 30-60 foot wide screen to make their point.

I think Avatar was grossly overrated, but everything it did was done with style most appreciated in the experience of a cinema.

I think Christopher Nolan, M. Night Shamalanadingdong, and Michael Bay think THEY are why people see their movies, and shove it in your face that you are watching one of their movies every chance they get.

I immensely enjoy the recent Marvel Studios franchise.

I am a huge Disney fan. From the parks to the animation to the decision to bring Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm under the mouse ears.

I think the AFI lists are good starting points for quality content connoisseurs. I think the IMDB top 250 is a good starting point for those wanting a taste of American Blockbusters.

So what do I suggest you see? It depends on what you like. If you like Guy Ritchie, watch Snatch. If you like Kubrick, watch Dr Strangelove. If you like Spielburg, watch Raiders of the Lost Ark. If you like James Cameron, watch Abyss.

Give me a clue and I can help find something you enjoy. And if you enjoy anything, watch The Room.

I do enjoy a lot of movies too. The marvel superhero movies are really fun to watch. Snatch is one of my favourite movies, as is Lock, Stock, and Two Smocking Barrels. I enjoy good writing, probably above other things, but really I want to watch pretty much anything that people think is good. I've seen some Kubrick (Clockwork Orange and Space Odyssey). Seen a lot of Tarantino. I mean, anything really, just I have no ideas of what to watch on my own. I'm not snobbish either about movies, I enjoy thinking about them though, and Marvel movies, while really entertaining (could watch wolverine beat up everyone 5 times over), are't really thought provoking.

I enjoy a wide variety of movies.

From the ancient IMDB top dogs like Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon and 12 Angry Men to 00's action pulp like Transformers.
I even watched 7 Samurai on DVD which has a fifteen minute break burned into the movie. Out of respect I decided to take that break and grab some popcorn. It's over 3 hours long, so that break was much appreciated.

I don't watch that many movies lately, but I tend to watch the superhero ones, because if you want a guaranteed box office hit, just make Batman 12 or Superman 7. I'm still waiting for Aquaman with Vincent Chase as the lead.

I'm not particularly snobbish about the movies I watch and like. I like James Bond and Disney movies (especially the old ones), sometimes a romantic comedy with the Mrs or a good documentary.

12 Angry men is good. I read the play too. And the revamped Aquaman is really cool, I agree he needs a movie :P.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2014, 10:31:07 am »
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Mulholland Drive!

And everything Lynch.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2014, 10:42:33 am »
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Nine of my film recommendations, in a handy Alignment Chart for reference:

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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2014, 10:45:56 am »
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12 angry men, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, uh don't know it, nope, no, don't recognise it, can't recognise it. Title's please?
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2014, 11:06:57 am »
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Is Chaotic Evil Hard Candy?

Nuetral Good is Shawshank Redemption,
Chaotic Good is Les Miserables
Lawful Evil is The Professional (so awesome)

True Neutral looks like Natalie Portman.. but not sure which one
Is Neutral Evil Johnny Dangerously?
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2014, 11:11:22 am »
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The Natalie Portman one is Beautiful Girls (I looked it up).  Still not sure on the other Neutrals.
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2014, 12:16:19 pm »
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Neutral Evil is Bugsy Malone.
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I don't know the movie, but the quote is a pretty crappy Lawful Neutral. It's way more Neutral Good.
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2014, 01:26:39 pm »
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I recommend buffing your movies with Sunfury Protector.  Everyone will go see them after that.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2014, 01:38:03 pm »
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I'm not a buff.  I get bored of most arty/intellectual movies too easily, have to be really committed to get through them.

Am also a big fan of Disney, like many here.  They get a bad rap, especially by people who are offended by stereotypes and can't look past them, which makes me feel bad since I have so many great memories associated with those movies.

I am not a fan of superhero movies, and never was from the beginning of the trend.  Some of them have been good (guardians of the Galaxy was great) but I'm never excited to go see them anymore.  I feel like action scenes have lost 100% of their appeal to me over the years.

My favorite films are:
The Princess Bride (the only movie that gets better every time I watch it somehow), Seven Samurai, The Good/The Bad/& The Ugly, Back to the Future, The Lego Movie, Mean Girls (I know this should be a 'guilty pleasure' but I do actually think it's fantastic), Gran Torino, ParaNorman, Pulp Fiction, and Toy Story.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2014, 01:44:51 pm »
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I recommend buffing your movies with Sunfury Protector.  Everyone will go see them after that.

Most movie theaters I go to have a strict policy of silence, so I'm not sure how effective Sunfury Protector will be.
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2014, 01:47:59 pm »
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I'm not a movie buff, but I did just go see Boyhood. It was good.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2014, 01:55:30 pm »
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I feel like action scenes have lost 100% of their appeal to me over the years.

Most hollywood action I find boring too. Just seeing a big explosion isn't satisfying, which is why the expendables movies are terrible and not even "entertaining terrible".

I'm not super into crazy arty movies either. I've seen Salvador Dali's movie, which is mostly random sequences of images, but it didn't do anything for me. But some movies really are made in a way that's different than major movies. The pacing, the dialogue, the characters and/or the directing and composition are unique. Tarantino often makes his movies with shots that you don't normally see. Inglorious Basterds had a lot of prolonged shots, which is unusual to see anymore as most shots last about 1-5 second maybe. Music is also a big thing for me, and I can't stand movies that just rehash the usual suspects of music styles. It's one of the reasons I like Guy Ritchie's movies a lot, besides Sherlock Holmes. His music choice is fantastic, and often based on the characters. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly also has a similar approach, with a melody based on each character.
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2014, 02:41:21 pm »
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Having a musical theme for each character is something a billion TV shows and movies do though, don't they ? NOt saying it's bad, but it's hardly unusual.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2014, 02:47:10 pm »
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Having a musical theme for each character is something a billion TV shows and movies do though, don't they ? NOt saying it's bad, but it's hardly unusual.

Best use of this ever is Twin Peaks.
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2014, 06:55:36 pm »
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Twelve Angry Men, Shawshank Redemption, Les Miserables
Imagine Me And You, Beautiful Girls, Rent
Leon, Bugsy Malone, Hard Candy
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Unsurprisingly, my favorite movie is Scott Pilgrim vs. the World.  I don't know anything about art, but Scott Pilgrim has a pretty unique visual style, so you might be interested in it if you haven't seen it already.
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2014, 08:13:44 pm »
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I couldn't get into it. I felt the pacing was terrible. As for the characters, apparently you needed to already know the characters before seeing the movie. I'm pretty sure that pink haired girl was, well easy. With that in mind, I couldn't see her ex's as evil but rather as unfortunate.
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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2014, 09:39:19 pm »
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Unsurprisingly, my favorite movie is Scott Pilgrim vs. the World.  I don't know anything about art, but Scott Pilgrim has a pretty unique visual style, so you might be interested in it if you haven't seen it already.

I watch SP vs. the world with my now ex. She loved it, I really didn't like it. I wasn't a fan of the comic book style, which is a similar reason I didn't like Kill Bill. I also don't really like movies that falsify how people act. I mean yeah, it's stylized and cartoonish, but none of the people in the movie say or do anything that is really how people act. I just had a hard time believing in the unbelievableness.
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2014, 11:05:27 pm »
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My train of thought:  Scott Pilgrim vs. the World -> Kieran Culkin -> Igby Goes Down -> Everyone should watch Igby Goes Down
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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2014, 11:19:07 pm »
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All films Kurosawa.  Dreams for the artsy, Yojimbo for the westerns, The Hidden Fortress for the Star Wars buffs.

Casablanca is the most overrated film of all time.  That and The Princess Bride.  They are the Titanics of Titanics.

Ghibli is great, too.
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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2014, 11:35:31 pm »
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It's been so long since I've seen the Princess Bride. I know the book is funny though.
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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2014, 11:47:44 pm »
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I think The Big Lebowski is probably the finest film I've seen. The Truman Show is a close second. The Princess Bride was a childhood favorite, and I still enjoy it. I agree that book is also fun.
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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2014, 07:39:21 am »
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It's been so long since I've seen the Princess Bride. I know the book is funny though.

well, you should probably watch it again in that case.  It is just so good. 

But the same as jsh, I am way to casual of a movie watcher to enjoy the "arty/intellectual" movies.  I am a big fan of the whole Marvel series, and absolutely loved the Lego Movie.  Another fun movie that no one else has mentioned yet: Pitch Perfect.  The first time I saw it was with a bunch of friends and I had pretty low expectations.  But I surprised myself and thoroughly enjoyed it.
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2014, 02:15:38 pm »
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All films Kurosawa.  Dreams for the artsy, Yojimbo for the westerns, The Hidden Fortress for the Star Wars buffs.

Casablanca is the most overrated film of all time.  That and The Princess Bride.  They are the Titanics of Titanics.

Ghibli is great, too.

The Princess Bride is overrated??!

You are dead to me.
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I read the book for The Princess Bride before the movie.

The book is so, so much better. I can see why people like it if they haven't read the book, but it really pales in comparison. That's probably true for most books turned movies though, with the exception of Jaws perhaps.
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I disagree, I think the movie is better overall, though I do respect the style the book is written in.  The actors added a lot to the characters for me.  Plus the author worked on the screenplay anyway, so it was adapted very well.
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I read the book for The Princess Bride before the movie.

The book is so, so much better. I can see why people like it if they haven't read the book, but it really pales in comparison. That's probably true for most books turned movies though, with the exception of Jaws perhaps.

I heard the book Contact was not any good, though I (as well as the person that said that book was poor) really enjoyed the movie.
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I'm not saying the movie is bad, but I really liked the backstory of Inigo and Fezzik that got cut out of the film. It's talked about a bit, but all the details are gone. The framing device in the movie is less intrusive, I'm ambivalent between the two of those.
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2014, 02:47:51 pm »
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I read the book for The Princess Bride before the movie.

The book is so, so much better. I can see why people like it if they haven't read the book, but it really pales in comparison. That's probably true for most books turned movies though, with the exception of Jaws perhaps.

I heard the book Contact was not any good, though I (as well as the person that said that book was poor) really enjoyed the movie.

The book was much better than the movie, but the movie was still a damned good adaptation.
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2014, 02:59:11 pm »
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I prefer the book too, but The Princess Bride's movie adaptation was about as good as any movie adaptation could have been.
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I prefer the Lord of the Rings movies to the books. I find Tolkien saps all suspense from his writing.
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2014, 03:07:26 pm »
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I prefer the Lord of the Rings movies to the books. I find Tolkien saps all suspense from his writing.

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Princess Bride is good, but it seems like everyone in my generation (young 20 somethings) thinks it's just the BEST EVAR and want to watch it all the time. Consequently, I've probably seen it more times than any other single movie besides The Emperor's New Groove (which is amazing).

I'm kind of a wannabe film buff. I really like movies, but I haven't seen enough to consider myself an expert.

I think Avatar was grossly overrated, but everything it did was done with style most appreciated in the experience of a cinema.

I think Christopher Nolan, M. Night Shamalanadingdong, and Michael Bay think THEY are why people see their movies, and shove it in your face that you are watching one of their movies every chance they get.

Tron: Legacy was also a pretty bad movie, but it was quite an audio/visual cinematic experience. I think I've only watched it once since, but I saw that one 2-3 times in theater.

Christopher Nolan is so right, I'll watch anything with his name on it. M. Night used to be right (his first 4 major films are some of my absolute favorites) but since his most recent flops he hides his name as much as possible. Michael Bay is probably right for most people, but wrong for many who lament the success of the Transformers franchise. Although, I am tempted to cough up the cash to see the newest installment just to see Optimus Prime wielding a sword while riding a robotic T-Rex. Because that's pretty much what all of film history has been leading towards, right?

My favorite films are:
The Princess Bride (the only movie that gets better every time I watch it somehow), Seven Samurai, The Good/The Bad/& The Ugly, Back to the Future, The Lego Movie, Mean Girls (I know this should be a 'guilty pleasure' but I do actually think it's fantastic), Gran Torino, ParaNorman, Pulp Fiction, and Toy Story.

Gran Torino, that movie is really great but I tend to forget about it. Totally agree about Mean Girls (written by Tina Fey!), Lego Movie and Toy Story too, so good. Although imo in the Toy Story franchise each movie was better than the last.

Ghibli is great, too.

Yes.

Some of my favorites, stream-of-consciousness style: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon; Rat Race; Shawshank Redemption; Gladiator; any of Shyamalan's first 4 movies, especially Signs; Fight Club; Les Miserables (musical); The King's Speech; 12 Years a Slave; Rear Window; Babette's Feast (look it up - really unusual but so beautiful); anything by Chris Nolan, especially Dark Knight, Inception, and Mememto (need to watch again); The Matrix; A Beautiful Mind; The Fault in Our Stars/A Walk to Remember (They're interchangeable, right?); A Knight's Tale (The better Princess Bride); Gravity (Largely for the physical stress it put you through in theaters); and Avatar: The Last Airbender (kidding...is anyone still reading?)

Also, I get really invested in movies so I usually hate leaving during a movie and can never fall asleep if one is on. But I couldn't get more than 35 minutes into Dr. Strangelove. I had heard all these great reviews but it just failed to deliver in a big way for the group I was watching with.
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« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2014, 03:20:19 pm »
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I prefer the book too, but The Princess Bride's movie adaptation was about as good as any movie adaptation could have been.

Much like 2001, it's really helpful when the person writing the screenplay and the person writing the book are the same person.
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Princess Bride is good, but it seems like everyone in my generation (young 20 somethings) thinks it's just the BEST EVAR and want to watch it all the time.

As someone from the previous generation who feels the same way, and knows lots of people who feel the same way in this generation... I think perhaps that speaks to the staying power of the movie.
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Princess Bride is good, but it seems like everyone in my generation (young 20 somethings) thinks it's just the BEST EVAR and want to watch it all the time.

As someone from the previous generation who feels the same way, and knows lots of people who feel the same way in this generation... I think perhaps that speaks to the staying power of the movie.

It is good, yeah, and even timeless to a degree. But I don't think it's SO great. I'll watch it for a dozenth time, and I'll laugh, but let's tread some new ground. Maybe it gets brought up a lot because it's a sure crowd-pleaser.

Edit: and QUOTEABLE! This is probably the best thing about the movie. I haven't been to a wedding in the last ten years where someone hasn't said "Mawwiage...is what bwings us togevah...today..."
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I prefer the Lord of the Rings movies to the books. I find Tolkien saps all suspense from his writing.
The reason why I prefer the movies is that Tolkien was going to write a sequel for a children's book and that's how he wrote the beginning, but then it got out of hand at some point and the result was suboptimal — it doesn't really hurt the story, but it hurts the experience. PJ, on the other hand, knew what he was going to direct, so the movies feel less separate. Silmarillion doesn't have this problem, it's exactly as massive as it is since the beginning (and neither does The Hobbit, but I prefer the movies anyway because I like the "bigger" approach).
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Also, I get really invested in movies so I usually hate leaving during a movie and can never fall asleep if one is on. But I couldn't get more than 35 minutes into Dr. Strangelove. I had heard all these great reviews but it just failed to deliver in a big way for the group I was watching with.

Watch Drive. I'm interested to know if you find the pacing too slow. It's really well done though.
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Also, I get really invested in movies so I usually hate leaving during a movie and can never fall asleep if one is on. But I couldn't get more than 35 minutes into Dr. Strangelove. I had heard all these great reviews but it just failed to deliver in a big way for the group I was watching with.

Watch Drive. I'm interested to know if you find the pacing too slow. It's really well done though.

I just IMDB'd this and I totally watched this last year! I didn't mind the pacing at all. This was not exactly what I was expecting, but I liked it a lot. Gosling's character was frustrating because he was so inscrutable, but that kinda fueled the intrigue. A very interesting watch. I was expecting straight-up action but got a much more introspective movie.
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Also, I get really invested in movies so I usually hate leaving during a movie and can never fall asleep if one is on. But I couldn't get more than 35 minutes into Dr. Strangelove. I had heard all these great reviews but it just failed to deliver in a big way for the group I was watching with.

Watch Drive. I'm interested to know if you find the pacing too slow. It's really well done though.

I just IMDB'd this and I totally watched this last year! I didn't mind the pacing at all. This was not exactly what I was expecting, but I liked it a lot. Gosling's character was frustrating because he was so inscrutable, but that kinda fueled the intrigue. A very interesting watch. I was expecting straight-up action but got a much more introspective movie.

In many scenes though you can see how he is thinking. When he is with his neighbour, those are the only times he smiles in the movie. The elevator scene also a cool change, where he rages at the hitman, but when he turns to the women, his expression becomes one of innocence, like there's these 2 sides to him.
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I prefer the Lord of the Rings movies to the books. I find Tolkien saps all suspense from his writing.
I tend to agree here.

The problem with the books is that Tolkien has a habit of scarcely mentioning characters and assuming you know who they are.
There are more minor characters than in Game of Thrones!
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I watched Pulp Fiction again last night with my mother. She didn't remember any of it. My conclusion is that I still really like it and her's was it was kind of weird and didn't need to see it again.
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I prefer the Lord of the Rings movies to the books. I find Tolkien saps all suspense from his writing.
I tend to agree here.

The problem with the books is that Tolkien has a habit of scarcely mentioning characters and assuming you know who they are.
There are more minor characters than in Game of Thrones!

Neither of those compare to Erikson.
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Dr Strangelove gets better the more times you see it. I find that a lot of the old black and whites do live up to their reputation. If you catch them in the right mood they are still fantastic. As previously mentioned, the Coen Brothers and Tarantino have made plenty of good films, and in a similar vein Planet Terror is great if you want grindhouse comedy.

For some non-US films you could try Pan's Labyrinth, City of God, Run Lola Run, The cook the thief his wife and her lover, Brazil, and Braindead.
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I'm kind of a wannabe film buff. I really like movies, but I haven't seen enough to consider myself an expert.

[...]

Christopher Nolan is so right, I'll watch anything with his name on it.
This makes me sad. Sure he has had a few good movies, but I can't justify the ones that are not good simply because his name is on it. Dark Knight, without Ledger, is an awful movie. I don't think Bale was the right choice for Batman. Memento was good, and Inception was creative.

The only Shyamalan films I enjoyed were Unbreakable and Signs. I thought that The Sixth Sense was too predictable and everything after Signs was terrible.
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I'm kind of a wannabe film buff. I really like movies, but I haven't seen enough to consider myself an expert.

[...]

Christopher Nolan is so right, I'll watch anything with his name on it.
This makes me sad. Sure he has had a few good movies, but I can't justify the ones that are not good simply because his name is on it. Dark Knight, without Ledger, is an awful movie. I don't think Bale was the right choice for Batman. Memento was good, and Inception was creative.

Well ok, I'm not watching it because it has his name on it, but because I trust him as a director. I thought the Dark Knight trilogy was incredible, the defining superhero movies (or at least movie franchise) of our time. Ledger was unbelievable in that role, but I wholly disagree that it would have been awful without him. Bale is probably not my favorite choice for Batman, but he's a capable actor and I think he did well with it.

Inception was indeed creative but also very well-made. I need to watch the Prestige again but I remember being very impressed. His only other major movie as director is Insomnia, I believe, which was a long time ago. I haven't seen it.

I'm excited for Interstellar!

The only Shyamalan films I enjoyed were Unbreakable and Signs. I thought that The Sixth Sense was too predictable and everything after Signs was terrible.

Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me. I also loved The Village but I know that's a very contentious title. Since then, I liked Devil alright but it's generally all awful.
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I'm kind of a wannabe film buff. I really like movies, but I haven't seen enough to consider myself an expert.

[...]

Christopher Nolan is so right, I'll watch anything with his name on it.
This makes me sad. Sure he has had a few good movies, but I can't justify the ones that are not good simply because his name is on it. Dark Knight, without Ledger, is an awful movie. I don't think Bale was the right choice for Batman. Memento was good, and Inception was creative.

Well ok, I'm not watching it because it has his name on it, but because I trust him as a director. I thought the Dark Knight trilogy was incredible, the defining superhero movies (or at least movie franchise) of our time. Ledger was unbelievable in that role, but I wholly disagree that it would have been awful without him. Bale is probably not my favorite choice for Batman, but he's a capable actor and I think he did well with it.

Inception was indeed creative but also very well-made. I need to watch the Prestige again but I remember being very impressed. His only other major movie as director is Insomnia, I believe, which was a long time ago. I haven't seen it.

Inception literally made no sense. The test for the map maker lady is to make a maze, but then he lets her try over and over again? She can't do it man, try someone else. Secret totem to know if you're in a dream or not, but he shows her his secret totem. What? I agree though the action was cool, especially the hallway fight, but otherwise it wasn't worth the hype in my opinion.

And the 3rd batman movie was terrible. I can accept crazy things for superhero movies, but when they try to make it somewhat realistic, the whole blow up every bridge, lock every cop underground at once, know where the secret R&D section of Wayne enterprise is and missiles not blowing up the truck with the nuke at the end kind of make me wonder why they tried to make it seem realistic when in reality they just want to make the most ridiculous plot that isn't even that good in comic book standards.
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First, I need to clarify there is a severe difference in a good movie, and an enjoyable movie. Things I like, may not be good.

I'm kind of a wannabe film buff. I really like movies, but I haven't seen enough to consider myself an expert.

[...]

Christopher Nolan is so right, I'll watch anything with his name on it.
This makes me sad. Sure he has had a few good movies, but I can't justify the ones that are not good simply because his name is on it. Dark Knight, without Ledger, is an awful movie. I don't think Bale was the right choice for Batman. Memento was good, and Inception was creative.

Well ok, I'm not watching it because it has his name on it, but because I trust him as a director. I thought the Dark Knight trilogy was incredible, the defining superhero movies (or at least movie franchise) of our time. Ledger was unbelievable in that role, but I wholly disagree that it would have been awful without him. Bale is probably not my favorite choice for Batman, but he's a capable actor and I think he did well with it.

Inception was indeed creative but also very well-made. I need to watch the Prestige again but I remember being very impressed. His only other major movie as director is Insomnia, I believe, which was a long time ago. I haven't seen it.

Inception literally made no sense. The test for the map maker lady is to make a maze, but then he lets her try over and over again? She can't do it man, try someone else. Secret totem to know if you're in a dream or not, but he shows her his secret totem. What? I agree though the action was cool, especially the hallway fight, but otherwise it wasn't worth the hype in my opinion.

And the 3rd batman movie was terrible. I can accept crazy things for superhero movies, but when they try to make it somewhat realistic, the whole blow up every bridge, lock every cop underground at once, know where the secret R&D section of Wayne enterprise is and missiles not blowing up the truck with the nuke at the end kind of make me wonder why they tried to make it seem realistic when in reality they just want to make the most ridiculous plot that isn't even that good in comic book standards.
I can't tell if he's a Nolanite or a Nolanoid. Nolanoids tend to be a pain in the arse about Nolan movies...

Anyways. Batman Begins was good. It gave a new gritty feeling to the superhero movie. Dark Knight started off strong, but fizzled out so quickly, and I enjoy the movie. I should say, however, that nearly half of my viewings of TDK have ended after the hospital is destroyed. Rises, on the other hand, I did not feel drawn into at all. Bane was a weak villian, and the M Night twist was completely unnecessary and felt forced. Rises was the Cars 2 of Nolan's directing career.

Inception tried so hard to be clever that it just felt dull. I wanted to enjoy it. The concept was there and the cinematography was there, but the delivery and story were lacking in so many places. I am hoping Interstellar doesn't turn into Contact by Christopher Nolan.
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I'm kind of a wannabe film buff. I really like movies, but I haven't seen enough to consider myself an expert.

[...]

Christopher Nolan is so right, I'll watch anything with his name on it.
This makes me sad. Sure he has had a few good movies, but I can't justify the ones that are not good simply because his name is on it. Dark Knight, without Ledger, is an awful movie. I don't think Bale was the right choice for Batman. Memento was good, and Inception was creative.

Well ok, I'm not watching it because it has his name on it, but because I trust him as a director. I thought the Dark Knight trilogy was incredible, the defining superhero movies (or at least movie franchise) of our time. Ledger was unbelievable in that role, but I wholly disagree that it would have been awful without him. Bale is probably not my favorite choice for Batman, but he's a capable actor and I think he did well with it.

Inception was indeed creative but also very well-made. I need to watch the Prestige again but I remember being very impressed. His only other major movie as director is Insomnia, I believe, which was a long time ago. I haven't seen it.

Inception literally made no sense. The test for the map maker lady is to make a maze, but then he lets her try over and over again? She can't do it man, try someone else. Secret totem to know if you're in a dream or not, but he shows her his secret totem. What? I agree though the action was cool, especially the hallway fight, but otherwise it wasn't worth the hype in my opinion.

And the 3rd batman movie was terrible. I can accept crazy things for superhero movies, but when they try to make it somewhat realistic, the whole blow up every bridge, lock every cop underground at once, know where the secret R&D section of Wayne enterprise is and missiles not blowing up the truck with the nuke at the end kind of make me wonder why they tried to make it seem realistic when in reality they just want to make the most ridiculous plot that isn't even that good in comic book standards.

I think it's unfair to say Inception made "literally no sense," I think it had an approximately equal number of plot holes as any other similarly-themed movie. With the totem, my understanding was that he couldn't let anyone else touch it, not see it...anyway, that's beside the point. I loved it and I don't think that's like, an unreasonable opinion. Oh and I could listen to the soundtrack all day.

First, I need to clarify there is a severe difference in a good movie, and an enjoyable movie. Things I like, may not be good.

Wholeheartedly agree here. Similarly, objectively well-made movies don't always thrill me.

I can't tell if he's a Nolanite or a Nolanoid. Nolanoids tend to be a pain in the arse about Nolan movies...

I, uh, didn't realize I was either, maybe I need to join another forum somewhere to gush.
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I, uh, didn't realize I was either, maybe I need to join another forum somewhere to gush.
Try IMDb... The Nolanoids there are awful. Nolanites I can deal with, as they are just fans. Nolanoids are fanatics.
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I think my movie standards are a good deal lower, in that I'm more willing to accept silly plot if the action is nice, and I'm getting the impression that some point demand both.

In terms of plot and questions raised, I put Dark Knight > Batman Begins > Rises.
In terms of action, Rises > Dark Knight > Batman Begins, but Rises wins by a very small margin.

I liked Inception a lot, but I'm a fan of all things meta. There are definitely plot holes, ones which I noticed during the movie, plus the entire movie depends on requiring a kick in both the dream level and the level above it - which is entirely different from how the kick is explained, and how it works in the opening, and it's never even touched on, but that closes up some of the major holes. I saw the map-making test as a test of how fast she could pick things up instead of a test of existing skill, since it's not like many people have experience with his line of work.

As for movies that haven't been mentioned yet, I liked Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Adaptation is...weird, it's the kind of movie where you have to pick up on the clues before realizing how good it is, and I needed help on that part. There's a German film called The Lives of Others which is also very good
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« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2014, 11:08:03 pm »
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Inception is completely contained within a dream that he has while he is on a flight to visit his children. Now it has no plot holes.
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I can't tell if he's a Nolanite or a Nolanoid. Nolanoids tend to be a pain in the arse about Nolan movies...

I don't know about him, but I'm a Nolanate.  I have one more oxygen atom per ion than a Nolanite.
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« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2014, 12:08:57 am »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.
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« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2014, 12:38:31 am »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

I felt clever when I figured it out halfway through the movie. There was just one awkward scene where I was like, "Oh, I get it."
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« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2014, 12:44:44 am »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

I was fortunate enough to see it before I knew, but it's everywhere, yeah. I also hate spoilers and love that movie so that's a very unfortunate situation. 
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I figured it out by the second preview. Not that the story was bad, but the entire reveal of "hey I fooled you!" just seemed insulting to the audience.
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« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2014, 04:00:07 am »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

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« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2014, 06:07:45 am »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

Dude. Spoiler tags.

Hehe, I knew someone would say this.
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

Dude. Spoiler tags.

Hehe, I knew someone would say this.

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« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2014, 12:03:03 pm »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

Dude. Spoiler tags.

Hehe, I knew someone would say this.

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« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2014, 12:54:00 pm »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

Dude. Spoiler tags.

Hehe, I knew someone would say this.

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I think it would be better if I specified the movie I am spoiling: The Sixth Kane.
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« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2014, 01:28:26 pm »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

Dude. Spoiler tags.

Hehe, I knew someone would say this.

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« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2014, 01:31:26 pm »
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Unbreakable and Signs are terrific, but The Sixth Sense is amazing too! I am really bad at seeing things coming, though, even if it's predictable to others. So it works for me.

Is it even possible to watch the Sixth Sense without knowing the plot twist beforehand? I thought it was about as widespread a spoiler as Vader being Luke's father.

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« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2014, 01:44:49 pm »
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Well, I never attempted to watch any HP movies. I just happened to catch parts of various films through other people watching, or from the projection booth back when film was still widely used.
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« Reply #73 on: August 17, 2014, 01:48:01 pm »
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Well, I never attempted to watch any HP movies. I just happened to catch parts of various films through other people watching, or from the projection booth back when film was still widely used.

The books are better anyway.
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« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2014, 03:46:33 pm »
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Well, I never attempted to watch any HP movies. I just happened to catch parts of various films through other people watching, or from the projection booth back when film was still widely used.

The books are better anyway.
So much better.

Can we talk about movies in general here? I just went to see guardians of the galaxy, how is this well liked? What am I missing? I'd give it maybe 3/10 and even that's generous and mostly due to a couple of excellent one-liners.
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« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2014, 04:24:07 pm »
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Well, I never attempted to watch any HP movies. I just happened to catch parts of various films through other people watching, or from the projection booth back when film was still widely used.

The books are better anyway.
So much better.

Can we talk about movies in general here? I just went to see guardians of the galaxy, how is this well liked? What am I missing? I'd give it maybe 3/10 and even that's generous and mostly due to a couple of excellent one-liners.

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm just going to link this review:

http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/guardians-of-the-galaxy-movie-review

Frankly, it just sounds... fun.  Which would be nice after all of the gritty reboots of everything.  I swear, soon enough we'll be seeing a gritty reboot of Princess Bride.
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« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2014, 04:30:56 pm »
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http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/guardians-galaxy-2014-movie-review/ This review sums up my thoughts pretty well. Couldn't disagree more with the praise of that other review. It was fun at times, I can give it's fans that. But it wasn't brilliant or well-written. The story made no sense, the characters either made no sense or were completely one-dimensional.

Edit: How badly am I missing out, never having seen Princess Bride?
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Edit: How badly am I missing out, never having seen Princess Bride?

Really, really badly.
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« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2014, 04:43:38 pm »
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Edit: How badly am I missing out, never having seen Princess Bride?

Really, really badly.

Not that badly. It's still a decent movie. And well worth watching.
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I thought Guardians was really funny, so funny that it's probably better watched as a comedy. Other than a few moments that took themselves a liiittle too seriously, it viewed to me almost like a satire or maybe even parody of the superhero genre.
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How badly am I missing out, never having seen Princess Bride?

You are missing out badly by not having seen it as a child. Unfortunately, you cannot change that now.
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« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2014, 06:28:56 pm »
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How badly am I missing out, never having seen Princess Bride?

You are missing out badly by not having seen it as a child. Unfortunately, you cannot change that now.

Might as well throw in the towel.  It's over for you.  Find a wife, make a child of your own, raise him/her on the movie, and live vicariously through his or her happiness. 
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« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2014, 06:49:55 pm »
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Guardians of the Galaxy has been widely well received. At the time of this post:

IMDb - 8.7 / 10
Metacritic - 76 / 100
Rotten Tomatoes -
 - Critics 92% positive (7.7 / 10)
 - Viewers 96% positive (4.5 / 5)
And US domestic box office gross over $200M (worldwide over $400M)

I felt like Star-Lord was very aware of how absurd the situations were, as he is originally from Earth. The humor in the movie seemed to add to the characters, as you are given very little time to establish them in the film.

I am not at all surprised Dsell didn't care for Guardians; most Nolan fans hate the Marvel Studios MCU films. The Dark Knight trilogy put a lot of focus on the villians and their motives, while the MCU films focus on the heroes and give a sense of something bigger happening outside what you see on the screen.

In fact, considering superhero movies a genre at this point is misleading. Guardians was clearly more space-opera. Winter Soldier was more espionage-thriller. Very few superhero films are following superhero standards. Even the Dark Knight was a crime-drama.
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« Reply #83 on: August 17, 2014, 09:50:51 pm »
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I am not at all surprised Dsell didn't care for Guardians; most Nolan fans hate the Marvel Studios MCU films. The Dark Knight trilogy put a lot of focus on the villians and their motives, while the MCU films focus on the heroes and give a sense of something bigger happening outside what you see on the screen.

What have I gotten myself into.

I loved Guardians, just like I love most Marvel movies.
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« Reply #84 on: August 17, 2014, 10:50:03 pm »
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Good to hear. Now avoid the IMDb boards, they suck all the joy from movies.
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I remember seeing one review for Guardians on Rotten Tomatoes, saying "It's Star Wars, but all the protagonists are Han Solo." It's actually pretty accurate.
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« Reply #86 on: August 17, 2014, 11:19:54 pm »
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I remember seeing one review for Guardians on Rotten Tomatoes, saying "It's Star Wars, but all the protagonists are Han Solo." It's actually pretty accurate.

Man, that should be the movie poster tag line.  Everyone would be like "... yeah I'd see it".
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« Reply #87 on: August 17, 2014, 11:24:17 pm »
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I remember seeing one review for Guardians on Rotten Tomatoes, saying "It's Star Wars, but all the protagonists are Han Solo." It's actually pretty accurate.

Man, that should be the movie poster tag line.  Everyone would be like "... yeah I'd see it".

Indeed.
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« Reply #88 on: August 17, 2014, 11:44:21 pm »
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I've come across a significant number of people that balk when you compare it to Star Wars. Those would be the people that did not enjoy any of the Star Wars movies, in which case they may or may not enjoy Guardians.
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In other news: Tropic Thunder was my movie of the day. Downey cracks me up as a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
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« Reply #90 on: August 18, 2014, 10:49:48 am »
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Well, I never attempted to watch any HP movies. I just happened to catch parts of various films through other people watching, or from the projection booth back when film was still widely used.

The books are better anyway.

The end of the series was just so horrifically terrible that I hate it all now.
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In other news: Tropic Thunder was my movie of the day. Downey cracks me up as a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.

Tom Cruise steals the show in that flick.
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« Reply #92 on: August 18, 2014, 12:11:26 pm »
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Well, I never attempted to watch any HP movies. I just happened to catch parts of various films through other people watching, or from the projection booth back when film was still widely used.

The books are better anyway.

The end of the series was just so horrifically terrible that I hate it all now.

Dead. To. Me.
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« Reply #93 on: August 18, 2014, 12:35:30 pm »
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Well, I never attempted to watch any HP movies. I just happened to catch parts of various films through other people watching, or from the projection booth back when film was still widely used.

The books are better anyway.

The end of the series was just so horrifically terrible that I hate it all now.

Dead. To. Me.

The whole premise of book 3 which involved time travel, which would be SO USEFUL in all the other books, makes no sense as all time travel stuff makes no sense, and geez, why can't they use this stuff in other situations? I'd love to fight Voldermort using time travel, or slowing down time, which ever it is. Book 4 was a bit silly. There was no reason to let Harry compete just because the goblet put his name out. They could just, you know, say he's too young and figure out what was wrong with the goblet, because clearly that isn't supposed to happen! Don't let him fight a dragon ya morons! Literally no reason to put his life in danger. Also the worst evil plan in history. He could have died so many times before getting to the middle of the maze. And the whole Pensive thing is weird. You can take your memories out of your head so that you can forget them to make room for more, but then wouldn't you just forget about them completely? Like, how does Dumbledore know what's in his pensive unless he regularly looks at it, in which case he's just remembering that same things. Either way he still has to remember it. It's a bit silly. Also, I kind of don't like villains that are evil just for the sake of being evil, which I felt Voldemort was. Also Umbridge was totally evil for the sake of being evil and man, what a weak character. And in book 5 (or 6?) when he goes to get his prophecy from the ministry, why is it that only people who the prophecy is about go and pick it up? It's a terrible safety measure. It's just as dangerous for one person to know their future than it is for other people to know about other people's future. That place should have armed guards 24/7 protecting the room that stores some of the most dangerous weapons ever. But no, instead it's just some riddle typed rooms that a bunch of students can easily get around.

And I agree the ending was fairly poor. It's so expected. We knew Harry was going to live, beat Voldemort and be happy in the end. But it seems the only twist JK Rowling could come up with was just killing a bunch of characters we like, and cutting someone's ear off (or did that happen in book 6?). Also, it was fairly jesus-y if I remember correctly. Harry dies then comes back to life right? He's a saviour, all praise Harry woohoo. And the last chapter with Harry being married kind of has no real purpose. I didn't like it.
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« Reply #94 on: August 18, 2014, 12:38:37 pm »
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How badly am I missing out, never having seen Princess Bride?

You are missing out badly by not having seen it as a child. Unfortunately, you cannot change that now.
I started watching it once from the part where the Zoro guy confronts the Sicilian in a battle of wits. Classic.
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« Reply #95 on: August 18, 2014, 12:42:32 pm »
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And I agree the ending was fairly poor. It's so expected. We knew Harry was going to live, beat Voldemort and be happy in the end. But it seems the only twist JK Rowling could come up with was just killing a bunch of characters we like, and cutting someone's ear off (or did that happen in book 6?). Also, it was fairly jesus-y if I remember correctly. Harry dies then comes back to life right? He's a saviour, all praise Harry woohoo. And the last chapter with Harry being married kind of has no real purpose. I didn't like it.

Yeah, happy endings suck. Personally, I'd prefer every story to be a tragedy and to always feel depressed.
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« Reply #96 on: August 18, 2014, 12:48:05 pm »
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And I agree the ending was fairly poor. It's so expected. We knew Harry was going to live, beat Voldemort and be happy in the end. But it seems the only twist JK Rowling could come up with was just killing a bunch of characters we like, and cutting someone's ear off (or did that happen in book 6?). Also, it was fairly jesus-y if I remember correctly. Harry dies then comes back to life right? He's a saviour, all praise Harry woohoo. And the last chapter with Harry being married kind of has no real purpose. I didn't like it.

Yeah, happy endings suck. Personally, I'd prefer every story to be a tragedy and to always feel depressed.

It's not whether it's a happy ending or not, it's that it was totally unsurprising. Like, from book 2 I knew it would end like this. There's not twist, and I don't find predictability entertaining in books I read.
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« Reply #97 on: August 18, 2014, 01:01:02 pm »
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Well, I never attempted to watch any HP movies. I just happened to catch parts of various films through other people watching, or from the projection booth back when film was still widely used.

The books are better anyway.

The end of the series was just so horrifically terrible that I hate it all now.

Dead. To. Me.

The whole premise of book 3 which involved time travel, which would be SO USEFUL in all the other books, makes no sense as all time travel stuff makes no sense, and geez, why can't they use this stuff in other situations? I'd love to fight Voldermort using time travel, or slowing down time, which ever it is.

I'm glad I watched the third film. It is such a good example of why pre-fated paradoxical time-travel is bad for story telling. The intial cleverness wears off, and then most of the suspense for the rest of the story is removed. The book 3 time travel is best left forgotten, on even retconned.

Back to the future style time travel has issues too. Namely, it breaks my willing suspension of disbelief. Chaos theory should apply.

How it should be: Marty steps foot into 1955, altering the wind flow and causing a different sperm to fertilize the egg he was conceived in, and thus Marty is never born.

Alternate timeline, paradox-free time travel is the only time travel I won't get annoyed with.
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« Reply #98 on: August 18, 2014, 01:07:58 pm »
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Alternate timeline, paradox-free time travel is the only time travel I won't get annoyed with.

I recommend Connie Willis's Fire Watch universe, in particular To Say Nothing of the Dog, as a "pre-fated" time travel that nonetheless maintains suspense.  And in the case of TSNotD, ridiculousness and humor.

On the subject of time travel in HP:

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« Reply #99 on: August 18, 2014, 01:21:20 pm »
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Also, the reason, from what I remember, why Harry didn't die the night he he was almost murdered as a baby was because his mother sacrificed her life her him. Through the power of love his life was saved. But with all the murders ever committed in the wizard world, how has no one ever killed someone who loved someone else? I feel this should happen a lot more frequently.
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« Reply #100 on: August 18, 2014, 01:39:47 pm »
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Man, speaking of time travel and foreign films, I recommend Los Cronocrímenes (Timecrimes). I am not going to spoil anything, but if you like time travel movies, check it out.
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« Reply #101 on: August 18, 2014, 01:46:01 pm »
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It wasn't that she loved him. It was that she willingly sacrificed her life for him. She didn't have to die, due to promise made to Snape.

Anyways, of course it's full of plot holes and inconsistencies, it started as a bedtime
story for her kid. The plot isn't the point of the books, it's the atmosphere and magical world
she created.

I can't for the life of me understand why people would bring the movies
to the discussion. They are obviously very bad, and I doubt all eight would even
have been made if the book series wasn't so universally loved.
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« Reply #102 on: August 18, 2014, 01:55:24 pm »
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It wasn't that she loved him. It was that she willingly sacrificed her life for him. She didn't have to die, due to promise made to Snape.

Again, I have a hard time imagining that in the history of ever this hasn't happened before.

Anyways, of course it's full of plot holes and inconsistencies, it started as a bedtime
story for her kid. The plot isn't the point of the books, it's the atmosphere and magical world
she created.

Actually, this is a good way to put it. As children's books they are very good. I guess I just feel people see them as adult books, and they just aren't of that calibre. I appreciate no plot holes, and consistency between books, but I know that may be less important for some people.
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« Reply #103 on: August 18, 2014, 02:14:34 pm »
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My biggest problem with the Harry Potter series is that the universe it takes place in is just so silly it's impossible for me to suspend my disbelief.  Two wizards fighting is just the most anticlimactic thing ever, there are so many ridiculously overpowered spells that it's just a matter of who can pull out their wand first.

But the thing that really drives me crazy is, it's never clarified (that I'm aware of) whether spells are created or discovered.  If they're created, you would think learning how to create spells would be the main topic of study for wizards, you would be going to school to learn how to come up with new spells or improvise useful spells for whatever situation you're in.  If they're just discovered, then 1. it's a bizarre coincidence they all have Latin roots, but more importantly 2. the process of discovering them is just hilariously stupid.  I can imagine a bunch of ancient wizards standing around waving their wands in random patterns saying random gibberish until something happens, and then when something finally does happen trying to figure out what they said and how they moved their wand.

I also hate the ending.  I don't mind so much that Harry wins, but the whole thing where he dies and then comes back and kills Voldemort, that just seemed really bad.  If it had been "Harry kills Voldemort but he has to kill himself to do it", I think that would have been a lot more consistent/believable, as well as just a more interesting ending.

There are some things HP does really well, it's fun and some of the characters are really well done I think.

Also time travel is dumb.

Alternate timeline, paradox-free time travel is the only time travel I won't get annoyed with.

I think what you're talking about is the same kind of time travel that I also decided was the only thing that was acceptable (like, you just switch over to another timeline and the world continues as if it had been on that timeline all along).  I watched about 12 episodes of Stein's Gate which uses that same kind of time travel, but I stopped watching it when the main character can apparently retain his memories after time traveling, which is completely inconsistent with the way they describe time travel in earlier episodes.  (I never finished the series so maybe they explain that later, but I can't imagine what kind of explanation they could give that would be satisfying.)
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« Reply #104 on: August 18, 2014, 03:25:48 pm »
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Stories to not have to have believable or justifiable plot development points, they only need to be told well.

The Harry Potter stories were told well.
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« Reply #105 on: August 18, 2014, 05:07:21 pm »
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Stories to not have to have believable or justifiable plot development points, they only need to be told well.

The Harry Potter stories were told well.

I very much disagree. No, they don't need to be realistic, but I most certainly need to believe they are happening. The characters need to act in ways that seem normal given the context. When you write a story/book or anything, the audience needs to believe what is happening, not that it can happen, but that it is happening in the story. You need to convince them that this story is happening. Otherwise they feel disconnected and don't care for the characters. If a person sees a dragon they need to react in a believable way. If they jump up and down yelling "pizza," and there's no context to this, no matter how well it's told I won't believe it and the universe of the story breaks down in my mind.

In Harry Potter, Dumbledore constantly just says things crypticly, doesn't explain anything, and even when he does there are often parts left unexplained. This doesn't convince me that this is happening. the sillyness of some of the plots also take away from how believable this is. Game of Throne has magic, but the people in it act in ways that seem appropriate and complete goals that are within their means. Not like HP, where students seem to be able to fight through government defences and professional evil people.
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Not like HP, where students seem to be able to fight through government defences and professional evil people.

It's a children's story. What do you expect? Children always outsmart adults in children's stories (nearly always, sometimes animals outsmart the adults instead).

The Harry Potter films are not really worth discussing as works of art but they are certainly worth a cinema ticket. The story and characters hold up whether it is in a film or in a book. I imagine they will also keep their popularity over the next decade or more whilst all the superhero films will get dated quickly, even the best ones.
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Not like HP, where students seem to be able to fight through government defences and professional evil people.

It's a children's story. What do you expect? Children always outsmart adults in children's stories (nearly always, sometimes animals outsmart the adults instead).

My post before said that they are good children's books. However, that last post that you quoted was written because Witherweaver said a story doesn't need to be believable to be good, and the previous discussion was about HP. So I mixed to two. My claim was that stories need to be believable, otherwise you will lose the audience. If your target audience is children, then HP is fine, but as an adult I am not riveted to it because it is not believable, not the story nor the characters even if it is told well. In fact, I'd go as far as saying telling a story well means that you are telling it in a believable way.
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« Reply #108 on: August 18, 2014, 07:07:09 pm »
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It wasn't that she loved him. It was that she willingly sacrificed her life for him. She didn't have to die, due to promise made to Snape.

Anyways, of course it's full of plot holes and inconsistencies, it started as a bedtime
story for her kid. The plot isn't the point of the books, it's the atmosphere and magical world
she created.

I can't for the life of me understand why people would bring the movies
to the discussion. They are obviously very bad, and I doubt all eight would even
have been made if the book series wasn't so universally loved.
Not all of the movies are bad. I rather like the 3rd and the 4th. The fifth one, though, is undoubtedly one of the worst movies I've ever seen and definitely the worst adaptation of anything ever.

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« Reply #109 on: August 19, 2014, 11:20:52 am »
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These threads are always good ways for me to learn about movies I absolutely must watch.

I'm kind of snobbish about movies, but I'm not a very elite snob. I prefer my movies to have good stories and characters while shrugging off mindless action. I like action, but it's much more enjoyable if it's smart action (the first Matrix movie was pretty smart).

It is noticeable when a director does a long shot. Tarantino was mentioned in this thread for that reason, and I do dig when he can pull off those long shots (or more accurately, when his actors can pull off those long shots). While I felt Irreversible was too slow and ponderous, I respect the fact that each sequence was shot in a continuous scene, which may explain why it felt like the taxicab scene just kept going in circles. And the long-shot appreciation doesn't stop with movies. Weird Al's "Tacky" video was well done as well as just about every video from OK Go.

I'm often not too keen on movies that are more style than substance, but sometimes the style is so interesting that I will forget the lack of substance. Scott Pilgrim has great style, and I can forgive the fact that the story could really have been told in half an hour without all the weird nuances. It's like winking to the audience, and I enjoyed that. A more subtle approach is how they handled English subtitles for Nightwatch. The subtitles helped convey the mood and were actually a part of the movie.

I think Marvel Studios is doing a phenomenal job. I suspect that the reason that Marvel Studios is doing so well with the Marvel characters compared to Sony and Fox is that the writers are fans of the comics and so are the producers. Sony doesn't care about Spider-Man. They just want to make money and are willing to jack with canon. To Fox, X-Men is just a way to cash in on Ian McKellan's and Patrick Stewart's popularity. Marvel Studios seems to actually take the source material to heart. They may change canon, but they do it in a way that is pleasing to the fans. I found Hulk and Iron Man 2 and 3 kind of shruggable, but I enjoyed them regardless. Everything else lately has been happy for me. I'm really looking forward to Ultron.

I suppose I should reconsider my top 5 movies. I hate top 5s. I like too many movies, but people tend to ask what your favorite five are, so I composed one back in the 90s. My list consisted of:
* Reservoir Dogs
* Brazil
* Shallow Grave
* The Usual Suspects
* Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead

And even then, my list would be shaky due to Leon: The Professional; Dr. Strangelove; and the Cook, the Thief, his Wife, and her Lover. And now there are newer movies like Fight Club, Inception, and Memento to really muck with my list.
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« Reply #110 on: August 19, 2014, 11:35:29 am »
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When I do favorite movies, I need genre/content clarification. It's very similar to answering "what's your favorite roller coaster?"

With that in mind, I can't really openly think of 5 off the top of my head that I enjoy more than a hundred others.
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« Reply #111 on: August 19, 2014, 11:45:07 am »
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A top 5 is hard I'm still watching and replacing movies, but Snatch is up there a Ive seen it many times and still enjoy it. Fight club is good, but the twist wears off I find. Still up there though. Inglrious bast weds was really good, and recently Drive makes it in the list. But there are other whih all are good in various that I can't really put them in order.
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« Reply #112 on: August 19, 2014, 11:57:06 am »
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The Science of Sleep
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Recently sat down and in the rarest of moments decided I wanted to watch a Rom-Com. My Idiot Brother turned out to be exactly what I was wanting to see. Can't say I recommend Rom-Coms in general but if your in the mood I found it enjoyable.
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Recently sat down and in the rarest of moments decided I wanted to watch a Rom-Com. My Idiot Brother turned out to be exactly what I was wanting to see. Can't say I recommend Rom-Coms in general but if your in the mood I found it enjoyable.

Hey, thanks, I've been on the fence about watching this on Netflix.
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Recently sat down and in the rarest of moments decided I wanted to watch a Rom-Com. My Idiot Brother turned out to be exactly what I was wanting to see. Can't say I recommend Rom-Coms in general but if your in the mood I found it enjoyable.

Note quite rom-com, but this series is the best romantic type movies I've ever seen:

Before Sunrise
Before Sunset
Before Midnight
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« Reply #116 on: August 19, 2014, 12:23:44 pm »
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It's very similar to answering "what's your favorite roller coaster?"
I don't think that's a difficult question at all, I instantly thought of this one. Well, I haven't tried a lot of roller coasters since the options in Finland are fairly limited, though.


My top 5 favorite movies would probably be, in some order: Heart String Marionette, the Madoka Magica movies, Dancer in the Dark, Mononoke-hime, and The Act of Killing (wow, that's a lot of ways to ruin your day, now that I think of it). It's a huge shame to leave LOTR/TH out, but as entertaining as they are, they stop keeping me immersed when they end.

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« Reply #117 on: August 19, 2014, 12:39:40 pm »
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It's very similar to answering "what's your favorite roller coaster?"
I don't think that's a difficult question at all, I instantly thought of this one. Well, I haven't tried a lot of roller coasters since the options in Finland are fairly limited, though.


My top 5 favorite movies would probably be, in some order: Heart String Marionette, the Madoka Magica movies, Dancer in the Dark, Mononoke-hime, and The Act of Killing (wow, that's a lot of ways to ruin your day, now that I think of it). It's a huge shame to leave LOTR/TH out, but as entertaining as they are, they stop keeping me immersed when they end.

So I tried to watch heart string marionette, but it was 2 am and I was playing dominion with FTTW. I decided to watch it when it wouldnt keep me awake from being scared.
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« Reply #118 on: August 19, 2014, 01:47:05 pm »
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Interesting timing, as over the past week I just watched all the Harry Potter movies (the last few for the first time). I enjoyed them as a whole. Yeah, it would have been a stronger ending if the prophecy basically said that Harry and Voldemort's lives were bound together in such a way that neither could die unless they both did, and then Harry sacrifices himself to kill Voldemort. Kind of like a really great anime series that I won't name so that I don't spoil it; but anyone who's seen it probably knows what I'm talking about.

I like how as the movies went on, you learned more and more about the past with Voldemort and Snape and Harry's family. I like how they got darker and more adult as it went on. Yeah, there were all sorts of unexplained things and plotholes and stuff; but I don't think it was ever meant to be a believable story. I liked the movies while acknowledging that they aren't all that great.
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« Reply #119 on: August 19, 2014, 01:48:29 pm »
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This feels like the right place to proclaim how terrible of a movie Avatar was, and how everyone involved was bad and should feel bad.
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I wouldn't go with terrible, but it definitely wasn't original. I never would have guessed it would be as popular as it was. Then again, I didn't find Titanic to be all that incredible either. Cameron just knows how to make money.

(Can't wait til Avatar 2-3-4...)
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« Reply #121 on: August 19, 2014, 02:33:17 pm »
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Top 5

1 - The Shining
2 - The Princess Bride
3 - Natural Born Killers
4 - Four Rooms
5 - The Usual Suspects

I think... if I tried too hard I'd get analysis paralysis.
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I'm entirely certain I couldn't do a top five.  Even just among SFF films.
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I'm entirely certain I couldn't do a top five.  Even just among SFF films.

Yeah, I think I really went by most viewed and shared amongst general acquaintances although The Shining is actually on the list regardless.
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It looks like Terry Gilliam's Zero Theorem is finally hitting the US theatres next month. I'm eager to watch it, though I am saddened by the negative reviews. On the whole, I enjoy Gilliam's works. He has a delightfully mad quality about his films.
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It looks like Terry Gilliam's Zero Theorem is finally hitting the US theatres next month. I'm eager to watch it, though I am saddened by the negative reviews. On the whole, I enjoy Gilliam's works. He has a delightfully mad quality about his films.

You've brought back memories of Tideland. *shudder*
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It looks like Terry Gilliam's Zero Theorem is finally hitting the US theatres next month. I'm eager to watch it, though I am saddened by the negative reviews. On the whole, I enjoy Gilliam's works. He has a delightfully mad quality about his films.


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Gilliam movies always get negative reviews, because people suck.  But they're always worth watching.  I'm really excited for this one.
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« Reply #128 on: August 20, 2014, 10:14:58 am »
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Gilliam movies always get negative reviews, because people suck.  But they're always worth watching.  I'm really excited for this one.

Have you seen Tideland?

I will agree that most of his films are good times.
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« Reply #129 on: August 20, 2014, 10:30:22 am »
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Gilliam movies always get negative reviews, because people suck.  But they're always worth watching.  I'm really excited for this one.

Have you seen Tideland?

I will agree that most of his films are good times.

I think that's the only one I haven't, actually.  Well, maybe that an a couple obscure ones.
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« Reply #130 on: August 20, 2014, 10:32:24 am »
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Gilliam movies always get negative reviews, because people suck.  But they're always worth watching.  I'm really excited for this one.

Actually, a glance at Rotten Tomatoes shows that you're wrong. Most Gilliam movies have gotten overwhelmingly positive reviews.

Here are just the ones I've seen:

98% Brazil
97% Monty Python and the Holy Grail
96% Monty Pyton's Life of Brian
94% The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
92% Time Bandits
90% Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
88% Twelve Monkeys
50% Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
38% The Brothers Grimm
29% Tideland

With the exception of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (which I think deserves better), those ratings are spot-on. The Brothers Grimm freaked me the fuck out and I didn't enjoy it at all. Tideland is physically painful to watch; it should actually be lower.

The Zero Theorem has 54%. There's a good chance it's just a mediocre film.
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« Reply #131 on: August 20, 2014, 10:37:10 am »
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I watched that that other day too. It was pretty good. Robin Williams mostly being himself in a lot of scenes.
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I don't know, I thought Brother's Grimm was perfectly fine.  I guess I was mostly thinking of that and Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus.  I recall a decent amount of negative hearsay about the films when they were coming out, and I thought both were great.  The others (From Twelve Monkeys up through Brazil), had all been out for a while before I saw them, and this was before internet message boards were common. 

So I guess I was only basing my statement on the last few films.  But you're right, in the films over all are reviewed well.  Which is good, because they're cool :)

I do want to see Tideland, and I doubt it's as bad as people say.  I also haven't seen Adventures of Baron Munchausen.  And I only watched part of Jabberwocky (I had a hard time getting into it at the time), and I missed Fisher King as well.

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I do want to see Tideland, and I doubt it's as bad as people say.  I also haven't seen Adventures of Baron Munchausen.  And I only watched part of Jabberwocky (I had a hard time getting into it at the time), and I missed Fisher King as well.

Whoa, you should really see The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Do yourself a favor and skip Tideland. I am not exaggerating when I say your life will be better for it.

EDIT: Let me elaborate and say that i disliked Tideland for different reasons than I disliked The Brothers Grimm. I didn't like the Brothers Grimm because I just don't like scary stuff, but that movie has other merits. Tideland is disturbing in other ways, and it doesn't really have other merits to make up for how disturbing it is. It's just disturbing and then it's over.
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I do want to see Tideland, and I doubt it's as bad as people say.  I also haven't seen Adventures of Baron Munchausen.  And I only watched part of Jabberwocky (I had a hard time getting into it at the time), and I missed Fisher King as well.

Whoa, you should really see The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Do yourself a favor and skip Tideland. I am not exaggerating when I say your life will be better for it.

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Do yourself a favor and skip Tideland. I am not exaggerating when I say your life will be better for it.

Haha.

I'm not kidding. This is my serious face.  :(

See it if you want. It's "artistic", for what that is worth. It's not entertaining.
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« Reply #136 on: August 20, 2014, 11:02:48 am »
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Gilliam movies always get negative reviews, because people suck.  But they're always worth watching.  I'm really excited for this one.

Actually, a glance at Rotten Tomatoes shows that you're wrong. Most Gilliam movies have gotten overwhelmingly positive reviews.

Here are just the ones I've seen:

98% Brazil
97% Monty Python and the Holy Grail
96% Monty Pyton's Life of Brian
94% The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
92% Time Bandits
90% Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
88% Twelve Monkeys
50% Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
38% The Brothers Grimm
29% Tideland

With the exception of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (which I think deserves better), those ratings are spot-on. The Brothers Grimm freaked me the fuck out and I didn't enjoy it at all. Tideland is physically painful to watch; it should actually be lower.

The Zero Theorem has 54%. There's a good chance it's just a mediocre film.
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I am really intrigued by Tideland now. I won't dispute anyone's claims that it's a bad movie, but now it's on my bucket list.

Then again, I also purposefully watched Shock Treatment and the Forbidden Zone (and even own them on DVD), so my tolerance for bad movies is higher than usual, despite my normally elitist behavior.
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So, you guys into depraved and disturbing have seen The Sinful Dwarf, right? It's not the most depraved and nowhere near the most disturbing but it may be the best combination of the two.
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So, you guys into depraved and disturbing have seen The Sinful Dwarf, right? It's not the most depraved and nowhere near the most disturbing but it may be the best combination of the two.

No, but now I want to
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While I was ruminating on the disturbing and depraved (The Piano Teacher comes to mind and then there is this) I was reminded of The Girl Next Door which, being based on a quite true happening, disturbed me quite a bit.
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While I was ruminating on the disturbing and depraved (The Piano Teacher comes to mind and then there is this) I was reminded of The Girl Next Door which, being based on a quite true happening, disturbed me quite a bit.

That link is depraved because it keeps popping up animated adds.

And because you have to load a new page for each element of the list
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While I was ruminating on the disturbing and depraved (The Piano Teacher comes to mind and then there is this) I was reminded of The Girl Next Door which, being based on a quite true happening, disturbed me quite a bit.

That link is depraved because it keeps popping up animated adds.

And because you have to load a new page for each element of the list

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One is proactive the other reactive.
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One is proactive the other reactive.

And they both work just as well I'm guessing.
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One is proactive the other reactive.

And they both work just as well I'm guessing.

One keeps you from ever seeing them or getting drive by crap installed or getting tracked by cookies and scripts you never wanted. The other lets you take it to the face first and try to sort it out later and hope they don't change anything to circumvent it. Personally, I think NoScript makes far more sense.
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One is proactive the other reactive.

And they both work just as well I'm guessing.

One keeps you from ever seeing them or getting drive by crap installed or getting tracked by cookies and scripts you never wanted. The other lets you take it to the face first and try to sort it out later and hope they don't change anything to circumvent it. Personally, I think NoScript makes far more sense.

Firefox only?
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One is proactive the other reactive.

And they both work just as well I'm guessing.

One keeps you from ever seeing them or getting drive by crap installed or getting tracked by cookies and scripts you never wanted. The other lets you take it to the face first and try to sort it out later and hope they don't change anything to circumvent it. Personally, I think NoScript makes far more sense.

Firefox only?

quite possibly
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Yeah, NoScript is FF only. And since I use Opera 12, I don't even have AdBlock.

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« Reply #150 on: August 20, 2014, 04:51:17 pm »
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What are your opinions on rewatching movies in the theater?

I'll rewatch movies after they come out on DVD, usually through, uh, totally-legal means, but I know people who've bought another movie ticket just to see it again. To me, it feels like a waste.
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« Reply #151 on: August 20, 2014, 04:55:24 pm »
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What are your opinions on rewatching movies in the theater?

I'll rewatch movies after they come out on DVD, usually through, uh, totally-legal means, but I know people who've bought another movie ticket just to see it again. To me, it feels like a waste.

There are specific movies I've done this for.. sometimes because a different friend wants to see it and I have a justifiable reason to see it again.. I really enjoyed it, or I want to think about some aspect while watching again.  I saw The Dark Knight in theaters at least twice.
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« Reply #152 on: August 20, 2014, 04:58:39 pm »
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Depends on the movie. For most movies, it's not only a waste of money, but also a waste of time to watch them again soon after just seeing them for the first time. But then there are some movies that really require at least two viewings, and for those movies, it's definitely worth it if the movie is good.

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« Reply #153 on: August 20, 2014, 05:36:38 pm »
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Most of the time I watch a movie only once in a theatre. If I go twice, it's usually because a) it has many layers that warrant a second viewing, b) it is so kickass that it has to be watched again, or c) my buddy wants to go see it so I'll tag along.

Some obvious movies that come to mind that I've seen twice in the theatre are Memento, Snowpiercer, and Pulp Fiction.
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I want to see Snowpiercer, but I'm a little worried it's too much politically oriented, or trying to make a social statement, or something.  I haven't explored too much because I'd rather go into it knowing less.
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« Reply #155 on: August 20, 2014, 06:15:17 pm »
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I want to see Snowpiercer, but I'm a little worried it's too much politically oriented, or trying to make a social statement, or something.  I haven't explored too much because I'd rather go into it knowing less.

It makes about as much of a political statement as any other dystopian movies. It's as subtle as a brick.

But do not worry about environmental concerns. While the premise of the movie is that people freaked out about global warming, it's really just a vessel to introduce the real story. The premise and "science" of the movie are really quite laughable, but they do frame dystopia in a unique fashion.
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« Reply #156 on: August 20, 2014, 06:44:53 pm »
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Even if a movie warrants a second viewing, I really think you need to space the viewings out. That way you go in with fewer preconceived notions I find. I kind of forget a lot of details over time, so waiting on a second viewing sort of lets me rewatch a movie I know I loved the first time without it being boring.
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« Reply #157 on: August 21, 2014, 01:02:30 am »
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A quick ctrl-f didn't find any of the following "three", so I'll name drop them as favorites that I've watched many a time over - even if I don't get myself too involved in the current conversations.

Any/All of The Thin Man movies.
Champagne for Ceaser
Bringing Up Baby

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« Reply #158 on: August 21, 2014, 10:22:08 am »
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It's probably not fair for me to answer how many times I watch something in theaters, as I don't pay for tickets. I know my top two are WALL•E (9) and Dark Knight (8, if you include the times I left after the hospital scene)

I also watched Brave three times before it came out. Avengers and Guardians twice before they came out.

I've never watched a preview to any of the LotR or Hobbit movies, they would spoil way too much. I already struggle to enjoy them as it is.

I also play my Xbox in the theater. Actually, the only reason I have an Xbox was the ability to play in a theater.

And yesterday's post-work film was What If. My first Daniel Radcliffe movie. It was chaos.
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I suppose I saw Rocky Horror more than 50 times, but that's a special case. That was really just a party where a movie breaks out. I used to tape ticket stubs together and hang them on my wall.
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Rocky Horror is a strange animal. It didn't do all that well in the initial run, but has had countless rereleases over the last ~40 years.
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I've never seen a movie in a paid theater more than twice; but I almost never go to actual movie theaters, because I have a movie theater in my house.  ;D
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If I didn't have a megaplex at my disposal, I too would have a theater in my house. I actually have a 10x15ft vinyl banner that I plan on using for a screen eventually.
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Anyway watch The Woodsman?  Kevin Bacon, Mos Def.  I was really impressed with Mos Def in this movie.
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Mos Def is actually quite good in most of his movie roles. I'd like to see him cast in more big Hollywood productions.
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« Reply #165 on: August 21, 2014, 07:27:27 pm »
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Mos Def was the only remotely decent thing about season 6 of Dexter, which is the only thing I've seen him in. If he can be even half-decent with that kind of material, I'd say he's pretty good.
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« Reply #166 on: August 21, 2014, 10:41:52 pm »
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Anyway watch The Woodsman?  Kevin Bacon, Mos Def.  I was really impressed with Mos Def in this movie.

I forgot that Mos Def was in that. Saw it a long time ago; thought it was ok but could have been better.
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« Reply #167 on: August 24, 2014, 12:47:57 pm »
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Friday's post-Waldameer movie: Jumanji
Yesterday's post-work movie: The Hunger Games

Both of which put me to sleep. (I'm hoping because they followed long days.)
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« Reply #168 on: August 24, 2014, 12:56:18 pm »
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Friday's post-Waldameer movie: Jumanji
Yesterday's post-work movie: The Hunger Games

Both of which put me to sleep. (I'm hoping because they followed long days.)

Mayb for Jumanji, but the Hunger Games was pretty bad.
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« Reply #169 on: August 25, 2014, 11:26:40 am »
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I thought the Hunger Games was decent enough, but I liked Battle Royale (Battoru Rowaiu in Japanese???) better.

They're both about a deathmatch put in place for various reasons (celebration of beating down the resistance vs... bad teenagers), but a subject like that just works better in a Japanese dystopian version than a Hollywood blockbuster.
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« Reply #170 on: August 25, 2014, 11:32:21 pm »
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Recently sat down and in the rarest of moments decided I wanted to watch a Rom-Com. My Idiot Brother turned out to be exactly what I was wanting to see. Can't say I recommend Rom-Coms in general but if your in the mood I found it enjoyable.

Hey, thanks, I've been on the fence about watching this on Netflix.

I have now seen it! Thanks for the recommendation. Hard to watch in parts, but a good film.
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« Reply #171 on: August 26, 2014, 01:35:21 am »
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Tonight's after work movie was Guilt Trip. Parts of it were really enjoyable, even if a bit predictable.
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« Reply #172 on: August 31, 2014, 10:20:11 am »
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Guardians of the Galaxy is officially the #1 movie of 2014. It likely won't have a challenger until Mockingjay. It also has potential to outgross both Iron Man and Iron Man 2.

In other news: The new movies this week are doing less business than Guardians on week 5, and Turtles on week 4.
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« Reply #173 on: August 31, 2014, 01:54:06 pm »
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Guardians of the Galaxy is officially the #1 movie of 2014. It likely won't have a challenger until Mockingjay. It also has potential to outgross both Iron Man and Iron Man 2.

In other news: The new movies this week are doing less business than Guardians on week 5, and Turtles on week 4.

We went to see Guardians last night... our first movie in a theater in four years.  Absolutely loved it.  Some small problems, but nothing major.

I don't know that I care to see another 3D movie though; it felt gimmicky and unnecessary.
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« Reply #174 on: August 31, 2014, 02:07:19 pm »
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All 3D movies suffer the same problem.

Is it a good movie because of 3D or without 3D?

Basically, if it needs 3D then it's probably not good, and if its good then it probably doesn't need 3D.

There were two scenes in Guardians that I felt 3D really added something.
The end where Quill grabs the stone and the purple swirlyness camera move. And the title scene with Quill in the ruins.
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« Reply #175 on: August 31, 2014, 02:07:33 pm »
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Guardians of the Galaxy is officially the #1 movie of 2014. It likely won't have a challenger until Mockingjay. It also has potential to outgross both Iron Man and Iron Man 2.

In other news: The new movies this week are doing less business than Guardians on week 5, and Turtles on week 4.

We went to see Guardians last night... our first movie in a theater in four years.  Absolutely loved it.  Some small problems, but nothing major.

I don't know that I care to see another 3D movie though; it felt gimmicky and unnecessary.

Most of the time it is gimmicky and unnecessary. I hate the extra cost associated with it, and I'd rather just see it in 2D.

That being said, I saw Guardians in 3D but only because it was part of a package. For $25 a person, I got to eat a brisket dinner, enjoy four beers, and take in a movie. I was perfectly content with that price and did not mind the 3D one bit.

In general, I'll go for the cheaper 2D. Even Avatar, which has been heralded as great 3D didn't really do much for me with those glasses.
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« Reply #176 on: August 31, 2014, 02:11:43 pm »
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All 3D movies suffer the same problem.

Is it a good movie because of 3D or without 3D?

Basically, if it needs 3D then it's probably not good, and if its good then it probably doesn't need 3D.

There were two scenes in Guardians that I felt 3D really added something.
The end where Quill grabs the stone and the purple swirlyness camera move. And the title scene with Quill in the ruins.

The annoying thing is that I didn't have the (practical) option to see it on an IMAX screen that wasn't in 3D.  I prefer not 3D always.
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« Reply #177 on: August 31, 2014, 02:27:32 pm »
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« Reply #178 on: August 31, 2014, 02:37:35 pm »
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All 3D movies suffer the same problem.

Is it a good movie because of 3D or without 3D?

Basically, if it needs 3D then it's probably not good, and if its good then it probably doesn't need 3D.
But if it needs 3D and it's good with 3D, isn't it just good then?


I prefer 3D in theaters, since I can always get the 2D experience later when I'm home.

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« Reply #179 on: August 31, 2014, 02:43:48 pm »
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That's exactly the dilemma. You get the very rare films like Avatar and Gravity where people prefer seeing it in 3D, but most of the time 3D attendance is about half non-3D attendance.

As for cost, anything with "Real D" attached has a contract (same with IMAX) where cinemas MUST charge an additional cost over their normal ticket prices. In our case, the minimum difference for Real D is $3 per ticket.
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« Reply #180 on: September 02, 2014, 05:46:23 pm »
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So there's a thing on FB about listing 15 movies that stuck with you...not necessarily movies that are your favorites (though I do have a lot of overlap with those two lists). I thought I'd share mine. If others have their own influences, feel free to share. Maybe 15. Maybe not.

1. Shallow Grave - First movie I've seen with Ewan McGregor and Christopher Eccleston. I still love the ending.
2. Reservoir Dogs - Back when I didn't even know who Tarantino is. I still consider this his best. Perhaps it's because this movie was not tainted by the rush of being told he's awesome.
3. Brazil - It warped my little brain, but it made me appreciate the absurdity of real life. I saw it before I entered the cube farm, and now that I'm in a cube farm, everything is so vivid. I'm a fan of dystopian stories, and this is one of them.
4. The Re-Animator - Not a great movie, but it was amusing because my friend and I snuck out during class to watch this in the AV room. It was the unrated version, so zombified cunnilingus was there in its full glory.
5. Heavy Metal - This movie is so dated, and it's so schlocky and testosterone-ridden, but it was my first adult animated movie. John Candy delivered some of the best lines.
6. Alien - Technically, Jaws would have been my first horror film, but I was way too young to understand what was happening. Alien, however, was on HBO during a time in my life when I understood what was happening, and it scared the shit out of me. My tummy did flip-flops during the scary scenes, so I stood behind a chair so it couldn't see the TV. You can guess that it didn't work.
7. Little Shop of Horrors - I think this was the first musical I saw in a movie theatre. I didn't know it was a musical going in. I kind of wish it had the stage version's ending, but it's a good movie regardless.
8. American History X - There are plenty of examples of bigotry, and they aren't necessarily in works of fiction, but I am glad this is a fictional story. The curb-stomping scene still makes me cringe, but the whole hatred thing just really oozes off the screen, and it makes you angry and sad at once.
9. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover - Probably not my first Helen Mirren movie, but it's the first one where I learned who she was. Made me really appreciate the sexuality of women over 40. This movie was a great blend of music and colors to portray mood along with story. I hate how the choir boy's song overpowers everything and wish for a version where his role is muted. The ending is still one of the most haunting murals of hatred today.
10. Near Dark - I think this was my first taste of nontraditional vampires. No nosferatu or creepy Christopher Lee. This was good old-fashioned redneck vampires in a Winnebago. It also showed just how cavalier they considered life when they slaughter the bar patrons.
11. Tommy - The visuals were pretty wild in this one, so that's unfair. When I was old enough to understand the story, it stuck with me. A Messiah who gets rejected by his own followers when he no longer teaches a path they like.
12. Star Wars trilogy - My first sci-fi love (even though it's not sci-fi). I saw all three in the theatre, though I was quite young. I vaguely remember even seeing A New Hope. I remember specific scenes from Empire Strikes Back. Return of the Jedi might have been the first movie in theatres I saw since my father died (who was with me the other two times), so there is still a soft spot for this series, even though I hated the way Boba Fett died.
13. Memento - I like mindfucks, and this one stuck with me for a while. Technically, it's not entirely filmed in reverse order (such as Irreversible), but the backwards storytelling really put you in the mindset of the protagonist. After watching this movie, I would wake up in the middle of the night and ask myself where I was.
14. Fight Club - This movie really drove home that marketing sucks. I ignored this movie because the trailer looked like another Van Damme wannabe with a bunch of testosterone-laden fights. There was testosterone, all right, but it was in different places. I watched this movie wondering why it was such a big deal for a brainless action movie and realized it was much more than that.
15. Cabin in the Woods - This movie is so meta, it hurts. Deconstructing all your favorites (and yelling-at-screen nonfavorites) in horror tropes. It really becomes a different movie after a certain point, and it has so many quotable lines.
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« Reply #181 on: September 06, 2014, 12:56:38 pm »
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God Help the Girl is finally out; playing at Village East Cinema in New York:

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« Reply #182 on: September 14, 2014, 02:26:54 am »
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Guardians of the Galaxy became the first 2014 film to reach $300M domestic.

And I got the soundtrack as an anniversary gift. :)
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« Reply #183 on: September 16, 2014, 10:26:19 am »
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So I caught Ender's Game last night on HBO.. only half-watched while I was doing other things.  I wouldn't say it's bad, persay, just sort of.. flat and uninspiring.  I'm not sure if I would feel different if I paid more attention to it, but I had trouble getting immersed the way I had with the books.  I'm also not sure if I would have felt any different if I hadn't read the books.  In the books you really get kind of connected to Ender, and the revelation that His battle school "tests" were really actual battles in the war hit a lot harder.  (Maybe a lot of book readers predicted that.. I didn't see it until right before it was explicitly said in the book.)  So I don't know.. just left me feeling kind of "eh".
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« Reply #184 on: September 16, 2014, 10:44:12 am »
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I read Ender's Game and got punched in the gut with that revelation.

Since I read the book first, I cannot say if the movie had the same punch, but I got the feeling it didn't. It just didn't seem to build up to it properly, but I think that may have been because the book had more training exercises than the movie. In the movie's defense, if it showed more training exercises, then it'd get really tedious.

It also doesn't help that I feel the trailer gave away too much of the ending. It didn't come right out and tell you, but I think it was made easier to see what was coming.
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« Reply #185 on: September 16, 2014, 12:06:57 pm »
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I never saw Enders Game but the preview did indicate a "twist" and since it focused on the young boy making severe decisions, it followed that those decisions were real.
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« Reply #186 on: September 16, 2014, 01:31:33 pm »
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I hate it when trailers give too much away.

I really hated the marketing for Terminator 2, because they came out and said that this time, Arnold is the good guy. The way the movie is laid out, it really was unclear who would be the good guy. They changed things up a little bit from the first movie. In the first movie, Arnold killed upon arriving in the 20th century while Reese did not (though his entrance was violent too). In the second movie, the T1000 killed upon arriving while Arnold did not (again, this was also violent). So they really missed their chance to wow the audience with a middle-of-the-movie twist because of marketing. Jerks.

It was still an awesome movie, but it would have been much cooler to go, "Wait…he's helping him? Wha?"
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« Reply #187 on: September 21, 2014, 01:18:00 am »
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Finally, the Zero Theorem came out in the US this weekend. I managed to watch it this afternoon.

True enough, as a Gilliam fan, I enjoyed the whole movie, even the slow parts. I'm not sure how to movie looks to non-Gilliam fans. It can be slow and ponderous, which could be a turn-off for some people. And it had enough weird random bits that leave some viewers scratching their heads.

Even though this isn't a sequel to Brazil or anything, there are still very strong elements in common. Replace government intrusion with corporate intrusion.

I didn't like the portrayal of "hacking." Granted, it's an alternate universe where things are done differently, so maybe cutting and pasting a Word document in this universe would require flying the paragraph between towering documents before placing it in its new home. Mostly, the maneuvering of blocks with mathematical formulas just came off as an unnecessary gimmick.
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« Reply #188 on: September 22, 2014, 01:19:23 pm »
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So I went to an animation festival in Ottawa and saw a number of really cool short films and two talks from animators. One that really stood out for me was this one, so I thought I'd share.

EDIT: It's explicit.

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« Reply #189 on: September 24, 2014, 01:19:46 am »
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So after The Prestige discussion in the Random thread, I decided to finally watch it tonight. I must say, although I didn't quite figure the twist, I did suspect something was up with Bale's assistant, simply because of the lack of screen time compared to Caine's character. It felt like he should have been more important.
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« Reply #190 on: October 02, 2014, 05:16:25 pm »
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I just watched the new David Fincher movie Gone Girl which is another excellent movie from him. Go see it.

Also it has a little Easter Egg in it. Both Dominion and Race for the Galaxy are depicted in the movie. I was really surprised seeing those games prominently in the middle of the screen.
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« Reply #191 on: October 07, 2014, 12:24:25 pm »
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Continuing a discussion from television to movies.

In general, I find the bits that I have seen [of David Lynch's movies] to be visually engaging. And sometimes aurally engaging too (loved the Spanish version of "Crying" in Mulholland Drive). So I would say they're worth watching at least once, though I do have my reservations about recommending Eraserhead. I may even give Lost Highway another shot, even though I got bored of it the first time I tried to watch it. 

I suppose Lynch being considered "overrated" depends on the crowd you talk with. I have my mainstream discussions and I have my cult classic discussions. Lynch's name came up often when talking about the likes of early Kevin Smith, Peter Jackson, and Coens. I guess I was just used to people talking him up so much that I started doing it too. After all, these were people who routinely talked about Doom Generation, Reservoir Dogs, and Heavenly Creatures. So if they talked about Lynch as reverently as those movies, then what's not to love?
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« Reply #192 on: October 07, 2014, 08:32:00 pm »
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I feel like his career peaked with Mulholland Drive. I can't say much of his work stands out as being "overrated" as I've rarely heard it being praised.  Directors tend to lose my interest if they try too hard to separate themselves from the mainstream. It comes off as forcefully fake and distracting. Tarantino is one of the few who has a noticeable style without making the movie suffer.
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« Reply #193 on: October 08, 2014, 10:04:31 am »
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I watched Cloud Atlas a while ago. Was pretty good.

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« Reply #194 on: October 13, 2014, 03:00:53 pm »
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A clip from Whiplash. Dumb. Really dumb.

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« Reply #195 on: October 13, 2014, 03:55:37 pm »
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A clip from Whiplash. Dumb. Really dumb.



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« Reply #196 on: October 13, 2014, 04:27:46 pm »
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I watched Cloud Atlas a while ago. Was pretty good.

I loved Cloud Atlas.
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« Reply #197 on: October 13, 2014, 04:59:02 pm »
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That's not how you learned to play? Weird.

"Why did I throw a chair at your head?"

"Um, because you're a fucking psycho?"

because abuse teaches kids better than actually teaching them.
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« Reply #199 on: October 26, 2014, 01:26:33 am »
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Saw Birdman tonight.  Really, really good.
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« Reply #200 on: October 27, 2014, 08:14:48 am »
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I saw the Maze Runner. It has decent enough tomatoes, but I'm not sure it's that good a movie. The interaction and mystery at the beginning was pretty good. They tried to explain what was happening at the end, but I don't think it really succeeded. I may need to look up fan sites to see what was trying to be conveyed. Maybe this was just an unsuccessful translation of the book.

I felt kind of weird that my wife and I were the only adults in the audience. A lot of teenaged girls apparently want to see this movie. I can't complain, though. They were actually quiet during the film, which exceeds my expectations.
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« Reply #201 on: October 28, 2014, 08:43:30 am »
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So, my thoughts on Interstellar and the way the studio is handling the release:

169 minutes. I guess theaters only need to show it 3 times per day. It's called editing, cut out the one hour of flat dialogue in the middle.

Early release on FILM or IMAX. Okay, so the industry pushes exhibitors to change to digital projection, and is now rewarding those who did not? Unless you are paying an IMAX license, so XD, RPX, and any other large format digital screens are SOL.

4-Week minimum hold. Are you kidding me? Smaller venues are going to be stuck with this picture during the thanksgiving release week? And if it fails, what then? I sense no studio confidence in the film to carry itself.

Man, I already had no expectations for this movie, I don't need any other reasons to doubt it. Give me two showings of Big Hero 6 any day over this.
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« Reply #202 on: October 28, 2014, 09:53:31 am »
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So, my thoughts on Interstellar and the way the studio is handling the release:

169 minutes. I guess theaters only need to show it 3 times per day. It's called editing, cut out the one hour of flat dialogue in the middle.

Early release on FILM or IMAX. Okay, so the industry pushes exhibitors to change to digital projection, and is now rewarding those who did not? Unless you are paying an IMAX license, so XD, RPX, and any other large format digital screens are SOL.

4-Week minimum hold. Are you kidding me? Smaller venues are going to be stuck with this picture during the thanksgiving release week? And if it fails, what then? I sense no studio confidence in the film to carry itself.

Man, I already had no expectations for this movie, I don't need any other reasons to doubt it. Give me two showings of Big Hero 6 any day over this.

What?  I haven't seen the movie, but I would not want a movie like this cutting out dialogue.  I don't see a problem with 169 minutes from a viewer standpoint. 

Though I take it you're talking more from a film business standpoint. 
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« Reply #203 on: October 28, 2014, 10:55:16 am »
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The other 109 minutes are also mostly dialogue. As I understand it, this just feels like Contact 2014.
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« Reply #204 on: October 28, 2014, 11:07:13 am »
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I'm okay with that.  I want dialogue in movies.  Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Before Midnight are entirely dialogue and (I think) some of the best movies made.
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« Reply #205 on: October 28, 2014, 11:21:19 am »
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What?  I haven't seen the movie, but I would not want a movie like this cutting out dialogue.  I don't see a problem with 169 minutes from a viewer standpoint. 

Depends on the dialogue. I felt that Death Proof was far too long of a movie (and it was only half of one!). The dialogue really dragged on, and I was so bored of it. And this is coming from someone who enjoys Tarantino's quirky dialogues. I was cool with the diner scene of Reservoir Dogs, the Thurman/Travolta banter in Pulp Fiction, and the Nazi monologue at the beginning of Inglourious Bastards. But somehow, the dialogue in Death Proof just needed to be trimmed. I guess it just wasn't as interesting as the others. While those other scenes may be viewed as Quentin masturbating feverishly into a script, they at least were still interesting.

I've not seen Interstellar, so I have no opinion on that matter.

And theatres could still show it more than three times, but it would cost them an additional screen, which is not a small sacrifice.
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« Reply #206 on: October 29, 2014, 12:43:31 pm »
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So this seems exciting:

Marvel Studios—2015 to 2019
Avengers: Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
Ant-Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America: Civil War - May 6, 2016
Doctor Strange - November 4, 2016
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - May 5, 2017
Thor: Ragnarok - July 28, 2017
Black Panther - November 3, 2017 (starring Chadwick Boseman)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - May 4, 2018
Captain Marvel - July 6, 2018
Inhumans - November 2, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 - May 3, 2019

Because Sony owns Spider-Man rights, will Black Panther take his place in the Civil War storyline?
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« Reply #207 on: October 29, 2014, 01:32:57 pm »
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So this seems exciting:

Marvel Studios—2015 to 2019
Avengers: Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
Ant-Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America: Civil War - May 6, 2016
Doctor Strange - November 4, 2016
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - May 5, 2017
Thor: Ragnarok - July 28, 2017
Black Panther - November 3, 2017 (starring Chadwick Boseman)
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 - May 4, 2018
Captain Marvel - July 6, 2018
Inhumans - November 2, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 - May 3, 2019

Because Sony owns Spider-Man rights, will Black Panther take his place in the Civil War storyline?

Looking up a trailer for Ant-Man I found a fake fan made one that looks very real except that it uses the Robots from I Robot, which tipped me off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-JtSSSthJ8 I don't know if I'm actually excited about Ant-Man or just nervous, but that trailer did not help.
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« Reply #208 on: October 29, 2014, 04:29:22 pm »
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That was pretty awful. And obviously fake because Edgar wright is not directing. I'm sure we'll know more by the time Age of Ultron comes out in may.
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« Reply #209 on: October 29, 2014, 08:17:19 pm »
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Because Sony owns Spider-Man rights, will Black Panther take his place in the Civil War storyline?

I think there are talks of Marvel Studios/Sony working together to bring the universes together.

But yes, Black Panther is part of Civil War, from my understanding.  The three of them (actors) were on stage together at the announcement.
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« Reply #210 on: October 29, 2014, 10:27:41 pm »
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The other 109 minutes are also mostly dialogue. As I understand it, this just feels like Contact 2014.

I'm not certain what the problem is there.  Contact was one of the better book adaptations I've seen.
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« Reply #211 on: October 29, 2014, 11:39:54 pm »
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The other 109 minutes are also mostly dialogue. As I understand it, this just feels like Contact 2014.

I'm not certain what the problem is there.  Contact was one of the better book adaptations I've seen.

Mostly it was confusing that Agent Starling was in space for some reason.
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« Reply #212 on: October 31, 2014, 07:51:39 am »
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I just saw Interstellar. It was great, though I could see people having problems with the last half-hour. Regardless, everything before that I just loved unequivocally.
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« Reply #213 on: October 31, 2014, 11:10:08 am »
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That's good to hear. The last description of the movie I heard was "Inter mediocre"
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« Reply #214 on: October 31, 2014, 09:14:08 pm »
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That's good to hear. The last description of the movie I heard was "Inter mediocre"

I should note I had no particular expectations for it and knew next to nothing about it. I'm not a Nolan fan or hater (loved Inception, liked the Dark Knight, meh on Batman Begins, hated Dark Night Rises), and that the movie isn't perfect by any means, it just worked perfectly for me, especially on a visual level.
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« Reply #215 on: October 31, 2014, 09:48:08 pm »
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How'd you get to see it so early?
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« Reply #216 on: October 31, 2014, 11:06:16 pm »
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Press and promotional screenings are quite popular.
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« Reply #218 on: November 01, 2014, 02:12:03 pm »
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How'd you get to see it so early?

It was an advance screening, there was even an interview with Nolan before the movie (it was in Paris). I think the movie comes out next Wednesday here.
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Anyone see Big Hero 6?

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« Reply #220 on: November 08, 2014, 03:50:14 pm »
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Anyone see Big Hero 6?

I want to see it. Looks like it'll be fun to watch, but no I haven't had time to figure out when I'll go see it.
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« Reply #221 on: November 08, 2014, 08:25:50 pm »
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Anyone see Big Hero 6?
Oct 17th and Nov 4th

Excellent both times. :)

(and of course, being a Marvel-based story, Stan Lee has his cameo.)
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« Reply #222 on: November 08, 2014, 10:59:03 pm »
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Anyone see Big Hero 6?
Oct 17th and Nov 4th

Excellent both times. :)

(and of course, being a Marvel-based story, Stan Lee has his cameo.)

What would be your lower age limit for appropriateness?
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« Reply #223 on: November 08, 2014, 11:46:38 pm »
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Anyone see Big Hero 6?
Oct 17th and Nov 4th

Excellent both times. :)

(and of course, being a Marvel-based story, Stan Lee has his cameo.)
Nice. I saw it last night (it only just came out in the States). I thought it was really good.
And man, Stan Lee is awesome! Such a creative person who came up with so much great fiction it's almost unbelievable.

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« Reply #224 on: November 09, 2014, 12:12:52 am »
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Anyone see Big Hero 6?
Oct 17th and Nov 4th

Excellent both times. :)

(and of course, being a Marvel-based story, Stan Lee has his cameo.)

What would be your lower age limit for appropriateness?
Depends on the board child.

Well, there is a bit of action-violence similar to Incredibles. There are also a couple suspenseful scenes that may bother younger children. I'd put it about the same level as the recent How to Train Your Dragon movie. Definitely not as dark as Maleficent. Considerably darker than Lego Movie.
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« Reply #225 on: November 09, 2014, 12:17:01 am »
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Anyone see Big Hero 6?
Oct 17th and Nov 4th

Excellent both times. :)

(and of course, being a Marvel-based story, Stan Lee has his cameo.)

What would be your lower age limit for appropriateness?

I saw it, thought it was really good too. For appropriateness, it doesn't pull any punches, but it isn't anywhere close to Coraline in pushing the PG rating.
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« Reply #226 on: November 09, 2014, 01:36:19 am »
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Saw Birdman tonight.  Really, really good.

Saw this a couple weeks ago too WW. Great film. What did you think of Interstellar?
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« Reply #227 on: November 09, 2014, 01:53:52 am »
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Saw Birdman tonight.  Really, really good.

Saw this a couple weeks ago too WW. Great film. What did you think of Interstellar?

I just got back from it.  I thought it was great, intense the entire time. 
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« Reply #228 on: November 09, 2014, 10:13:31 am »
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Anyone see Big Hero 6?
Oct 17th and Nov 4th

Excellent both times. :)

(and of course, being a Marvel-based story, Stan Lee has his cameo.)

What would be your lower age limit for appropriateness?

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You forgot to use spoiler tags!
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« Reply #230 on: November 09, 2014, 02:45:15 pm »
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I saw Intserstellar in IMAX Friday, and agree completely with Teproc about his analysis.  Coming in with no real expectations (probably more of an expectation that I wouldn't really like it), I was pleasantly surprised by the movie and really enjoyed it.  Obviously with IMAX made the visual experience amazing, but I would watch it again just regular.
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« Reply #231 on: November 09, 2014, 03:33:57 pm »
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I'm glad to hear people enjoy it. Seems like advertising gave us less to look forward to, instead of too much like Inception.
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« Reply #232 on: November 09, 2014, 03:45:00 pm »
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I'm glad to hear people enjoy it. Seems like advertising gave us less to look forward to, instead of too much like Inception.

I think the trailers did a great job about building interest without really giving anything away.  Going into the movie I had no idea how the plot would move along.  I knew the general premise, but was really left wondering the entire time I was watching.
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« Reply #233 on: November 09, 2014, 04:59:31 pm »
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I saw Intserstellar in IMAX Friday, and agree completely with Teproc about his analysis.  Coming in with no real expectations (probably more of an expectation that I wouldn't really like it), I was pleasantly surprised by the movie and really enjoyed it.  Obviously with IMAX made the visual experience amazing, but I would watch it again just regular.

Just watched it in a normal cinema, knowing only the most basic premise. Some very powerful stuff all the way to the last half an hour, which turned out to be less bad than it looked like it was going to be, so yay?

One character absolutely steals every scene s/he is in. TARS. I've you've seen the movie, you probably don't need to check the spoiler to know who I am talking about.

Also, can somebody explain what the fuck was Dr. Mann's plan? He had planned to kill whoever came to his rescue, as demonstrated by the fact that he must have rigged his robot before going into cryosleep. But he didn't want to go back to Earth, as his last dialogue shows. So if he just wants to ensure the continuation of the Human Race, why not just not send any message at all, and let the Lazarus mission go check Edmund's planet directly?
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« Reply #234 on: November 09, 2014, 06:05:04 pm »
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Well that's the whole point of his speech to Cooper when they're fighting. If he does what you say, he's not rescued, he never sees another human face again, and he's not the one who saves humanity. The way he planned it, he would have overseen the colonization of Edmund's planet and would've been the hero. Plus, he gets to see people, which he indicated as being a pretty big motivator.

By the way, I hadn't seen any trailers but did people know Matt Damon was in this movie ? I sure didn't, so seeing him pop up was pretty great.
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« Reply #235 on: November 09, 2014, 06:08:08 pm »
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On another note, I just saw Life of Pi on DVD. I know, I'm a little late to the party, but man that movie is great, even without the 3D (which I was a little worried about).

It occured to me at several moments that this is what a Miyazaki live action movie would look like.
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« Reply #236 on: November 09, 2014, 06:20:05 pm »
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Well that's the whole point of his speech to Cooper when they're fighting. If he does what you say, he's not rescued, he never sees another human face again, and he's not the one who saves humanity. The way he planned it, he would have overseen the colonization of Edmund's planet and would've been the hero. Plus, he gets to see people, which he indicated as being a pretty big motivator.

By the way, I hadn't seen any trailers but did people know Matt Damon was in this movie ? I sure didn't, so seeing him pop up was pretty great.


I didn't know Matt Damon was in the movie, and I was actually not 100% sure it was him, so every scene he was in was quite distressing.

If he just wanted to see another human face, planning to kill the rescue team doesn't strike me as particularly coherent... He could just have recognized he lied, it's not like they would have left him there.
I didn't gather either that he wanted to be a hero. His final words are that he doesn't care whether any of them live or die, just that the Human Race is saved. Forcing the final Ranger to go down onto his planet seems to go against that objective.
Wanting to be a hero would make sense, but I didn't get that impression at all. He seemed fine with being a coward, but an alive one. Trying to kill the rescue team seems to be an unnecessary risk for someone who at that point seems to be motivated only by his survival instinct.
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« Reply #237 on: November 09, 2014, 06:31:47 pm »
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Well that's the whole point of his speech to Cooper when they're fighting. If he does what you say, he's not rescued, he never sees another human face again, and he's not the one who saves humanity. The way he planned it, he would have overseen the colonization of Edmund's planet and would've been the hero. Plus, he gets to see people, which he indicated as being a pretty big motivator.

By the way, I hadn't seen any trailers but did people know Matt Damon was in this movie ? I sure didn't, so seeing him pop up was pretty great.


The Matt Damon thing was actually hidden.  Nolan kept it secret until release.  See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv.
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« Reply #238 on: November 09, 2014, 06:34:28 pm »
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Well that's the whole point of his speech to Cooper when they're fighting. If he does what you say, he's not rescued, he never sees another human face again, and he's not the one who saves humanity. The way he planned it, he would have overseen the colonization of Edmund's planet and would've been the hero. Plus, he gets to see people, which he indicated as being a pretty big motivator.

By the way, I hadn't seen any trailers but did people know Matt Damon was in this movie ? I sure didn't, so seeing him pop up was pretty great.


I didn't know Matt Damon was in the movie, and I was actually not 100% sure it was him, so every scene he was in was quite distressing.

If he just wanted to see another human face, planning to kill the rescue team doesn't strike me as particularly coherent... He could just have recognized he lied, it's not like they would have left him there.
I didn't gather either that he wanted to be a hero. His final words are that he doesn't care whether any of them live or die, just that the Human Race is saved. Forcing the final Ranger to go down onto his planet seems to go against that objective.
Wanting to be a hero would make sense, but I didn't get that impression at all. He seemed fine with being a coward, but an alive one. Trying to kill the rescue team seems to be an unnecessary risk for someone who at that point seems to be motivated only by his survival instinct.


Well, he had already lied to get people to come to his planet, by sending out the beacon that his planet had promise.  I'm not exactly sure what his plan was once he got off and took control of the main ship, though.
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« Reply #239 on: November 09, 2014, 08:47:24 pm »
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He does say something about never even considering that his planet wouldn't be the right one. That's where I get the idea that he wanted to be the one doing the actual colonization, as well as the fact that he lead the first expedition originally. I don't think that's necessarily contradictory with his survival instict.
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« Reply #240 on: November 09, 2014, 09:14:01 pm »
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He does say something about never even considering that his planet wouldn't be the right one. That's where I get the idea that he wanted to be the one doing the actual colonization, as well as the fact that he lead the first expedition originally. I don't think that's necessarily contradictory with his survival instict.

His plan wasn't to kill the crew. He didn't want to die alone, and as he stated, he thought his planet would be the one. He couldn't live with the fact that his wasn't and that he would die alone, so he sent a beacon saying his planet was good, and he probably figured that they could repopulate another planet as well. Cooper was planning on taking the shuttle back to Earth but insisted on seeing the "atmospheric" part of Mann's planet that could host terrestrial beings. Dr. Mann realizes that Cooper will likely go back home instead of going to Edmund's planet, so he tries to kill Cooper. He realizes he f'd up though, so he maroons Dr. Brand and the other guy, well, explodes.
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« Reply #241 on: November 10, 2014, 05:14:23 am »
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He does say something about never even considering that his planet wouldn't be the right one. That's where I get the idea that he wanted to be the one doing the actual colonization, as well as the fact that he lead the first expedition originally. I don't think that's necessarily contradictory with his survival instict.

His plan wasn't to kill the crew. He didn't want to die alone, and as he stated, he thought his planet would be the one. He couldn't live with the fact that his wasn't and that he would die alone, so he sent a beacon saying his planet was good, and he probably figured that they could repopulate another planet as well. Cooper was planning on taking the shuttle back to Earth but insisted on seeing the "atmospheric" part of Mann's planet that could host terrestrial beings. Dr. Mann realizes that Cooper will likely go back home instead of going to Edmund's planet, so he tries to kill Cooper. He realizes he f'd up though, so he maroons Dr. Brand and the other guy, well, explodes.

The problem with that theory is that it assumes that Dr. Mann decides to kill the crew after they arrive, but that is false. He booby-trapped KIPP before he went to cryosleep.
I missed the part where he said that he had never considered that his planet wouldn't be the one. That makes a little bit more sense. It still doesn't really justify trying to kill the crew, but I guess it's good enough.


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« Reply #242 on: November 10, 2014, 02:26:31 pm »
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More Interstellar:

Since 23 years outside the influence of Gargantua transpired while they were on the water planet, they spent about 3 hours (say, 3.4) on the water planet.  But the entire sequence once they got back on the ship and rode the huge wave seemed to have no time cuts, and only lasted a few minutes.  He asks how long until the engines drain and TARS (or whomever) tells him 45-50 minutes.  Then arguing and all of the sudden 5 minutes.  Am I misremembering there being no time cut?  I saw this brought up on another forum as well.

And, even if that full 50 minutes passed, that only makes up a third of the three hours.  Some time was spent getting down to the planet and back, but that must not have been that long, since they didn't plan to be gone decades.  I got the impression they only intended on spending 15 minutes total (~2ish years).  So riding the wave itself took time, but probably not an hour.  Presumably some more time passed from when the wave went down to the "45 minutes to drain engines" mark, but I don't recall evidence that that time elapsed.

Anyone else notice this?
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« Reply #243 on: November 11, 2014, 05:56:33 pm »
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Just went to see Interstellar. It's pretty amazing how little I liked it considering it had my favorite actor as the lead, my favorite director and composer and a very elite supporting cast.

I'm not a sci-fi guy by any stretch of imagination, so that might be a part of it. I wish they had a camera there to capture my facial impression when I realized what the last 30 minutes were going to be like, though.
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« Reply #244 on: November 12, 2014, 09:53:55 am »
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I saw Big Hero 6. Fun little movie. It has heartbreak, comedy, and action. Pretty good stuff.

Shockingly, not a romance. Well, that's probably for the best, since the main character is a 14-year-old boy, but the rest of the team are coed college students, and there wasn't a single love blossoming. I actually found that refreshing, as it does get tiresome to see the obligatory romance. And there certainly were opportunities for it to happen.

But it was enjoyable. It also portrayed an interesting fusion of American and Japanese cultures. Cue 'Murica outrage in 3, 2, …eh.
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« Reply #245 on: November 12, 2014, 10:28:15 am »
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I did enjoy seeing some of the future tech that is currently in R&D show up in this movie.
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« Reply #246 on: November 12, 2014, 11:05:26 pm »
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I saw Big Hero 6. Fun little movie. It has heartbreak, comedy, and action. Pretty good stuff.

Shockingly, not a romance. Well, that's probably for the best, since the main character is a 14-year-old boy, but the rest of the team are coed college students, and there wasn't a single love blossoming. I actually found that refreshing, as it does get tiresome to see the obligatory romance. And there certainly were opportunities for it to happen.

But it was enjoyable. It also portrayed an interesting fusion of American and Japanese cultures. Cue 'Murica outrage in 3, 2, …eh.

They probably reached their quota with Baymax/everyone. Seriously, Baymax is too cute.
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« Reply #247 on: November 19, 2014, 10:33:46 pm »
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Did anyone ever see Snowpiercer?  I know it's old now, but I saw ads for it on iTunes and was intrigued.  I'm wondering if it's worth it, or if it's just Divergent on a Train.
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« Reply #248 on: November 19, 2014, 10:49:10 pm »
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I enjoyed it quite a bit more than Divergent. It has obvious political messages in it, but I quite liked it dispite that.

Nightcrawler was not what I expected. But it was quite good.

Interstellar was not stellar, but it was made well.
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« Reply #249 on: November 25, 2014, 12:16:29 pm »
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Did anyone ever see Snowpiercer?  I know it's old now, but I saw ads for it on iTunes and was intrigued.  I'm wondering if it's worth it, or if it's just Divergent on a Train.

Snowpiercer is a really fun movie. I was a little wary of it because the concept is so ludicrous.

But you know, if you accept the ridiculousness of the premise, it has a pretty powerful class story. Kind of reminds me of Brave New World in that regard.

You have to go in ready to appreciate the sociopolitical story and not the "sci-fi" story. Also avoid other things like what the hell are the rich doing to deserve to be rich? Then again, that can be part of the message. Many people are rich today that didn't do anything to deserve it. They were just born in the right conditions to be considered rich.
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I just watched RockNRolla and Revolver, two Guy Ritchie movies that I hadn't seen before. I enjoyed them, despite Revolver getting terrible reviews when it came out.

I also watched Psycho for the first time. It's got amazing shots, and Norman Bates is played really well. But the horror doesn't stand the test of time, at least for me. The best line is at the end when they are discussing why he dresses up like his mother, and a police officer yells loudly "He's a transvestite!"
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« Reply #251 on: January 09, 2015, 01:44:55 am »
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Speaking of vintage horror, have you guys seen Nosferatu? It's pretty goddamn creepy.
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« Reply #252 on: January 11, 2015, 11:08:31 pm »
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Speaking of vintage horror, have you guys seen Nosferatu? It's pretty goddamn creepy.
I either own it or have it in my Amazon cart. It is pretty impressive considering how old it is.
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« Reply #253 on: January 12, 2015, 01:21:26 am »
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Speaking of vintage horror, have you guys seen Nosferatu? It's pretty goddamn creepy.
I either own it or have it in my Amazon cart. It is pretty impressive considering how old it is.

Yeah, I've been meaning to watch it. The Shining too. Haven't seen it and I need to.

Actually on the topic of horror, I watched "What we do in the Shadows." It was very funny, and I thought it was fairly original. I really enjoyed it.
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« Reply #254 on: January 27, 2015, 06:54:47 pm »
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Finally caved to all the pressure and watched Gravity. Was pleasantly surprised. Only let down was Sandra surviving.