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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1275 on: September 18, 2014, 01:32:11 pm »

Voltaire, any last words?
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1276 on: September 18, 2014, 01:40:21 pm »

Bond may not have fit in with the nerds but he could hold his own in a game of Dominion. He had won three straight games against mcmcsalot and two of three against Adam, during which Bond inserted his custom made earplugs. But Dominion wasn't the reason Bond was here. He thought back to the briefing with M, trying to remember all the details.

"Felix wasn't acting alone, that we know for sure. The note we found on his person is a clue that he was planning on attending this meetup, no doubt to discuss details of this job. By now they will be expecting you and will have prepared for your arrival. You must be prepared too. There will be a package waiting for you at your hotel. Inside you will find specially designed explosive Dominion cards from Q branch. You can throw them as you would a knife but the results will be, well... explosive! Do be careful 007. Use these cards wisely."

Just then someone burst in hurriedly. Immediately Bond put his hand to his gun. "Oh hi! I brought my own fan set," the rotund man said, "it's called Dominion: Gunpowder. My favorite card is called Bomb! It's awesome!" Bond wished someone would start shooting already.


Vote Count 3.4


XerxesPraelor (1): Voltaire
Voltaire (4): Witherweaver, silverspawn, Hydrad, XerxesPraelor [L-1]

Not Voting (3): Eevee, Kingzog3, liopoil


With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 ends at 5:30pm FT on Sept. 26th.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2014, 04:31:46 pm by AndrewisFTTW »
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1277 on: September 18, 2014, 02:12:52 pm »

so, this also means that XP is an IC child for me now. eww. well, unvote.

:)

vote:voltaire

Also, look at that well-done eevee/voltaire distancing.
Sure, the fact that I was Voltaire's most vocal and relentless suspecter all day is great additional evidence towards us being scum together. Absolutely.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1278 on: September 18, 2014, 02:13:42 pm »

If Voltaire is scum, I think Kingzog is easily the most likely third member.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1279 on: September 18, 2014, 02:29:15 pm »

yea, Kingzong is someone to look at tomorrow. He didn't stick out at all during the game

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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1280 on: September 18, 2014, 02:32:44 pm »

yea, Kingzong is someone to look at tomorrow. He didn't stick out at all during the game

Actually, Lio would look slightly suspect as well.  He insisted you go last and was very vocal about it.  I have to assume this was because he suspected you had a PR, and as scum he would do this for the town points.  It was Volt that said he thought you soft-claimed a PR, and this could have been something they discussed last night.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1281 on: September 18, 2014, 02:44:43 pm »

XP: Doctor D
Hydrad: One-shot Vig V
Voltaire: Cop CC
Silverspawn: One-shot Doctor D
Liopoil: VT
Witherweaver: VT
Eevee: VT
Kingzog: VT

Hydrad, SK: Masons MM

If everyone is telling the truth, we have:

DDMMVCC.

So no T's, so scum team is: Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather.  Scum has to be in the Vanilla Townie claims, Lio, Kingzog, Eevee.

Right now I'm thinking it's more likely that Voltaire lied.

XP/Silverspawn have to be the same alignment.

Fascinating. I think this breaks down pretty cleanly:

1. scumteam is joth/XP/silver. Silver claims 1-shot Doc to make XP look believable. I feel this belongs in "plausible but unlikely mega-gambit" territory. It would require them hatching this plan last night because they feel they're mega-screwed. This seems unlikely - if they thought XP was going down, why tie silver to it?
2. scumteam is in the VTs (lio, Zog, Eevee, WW). WW leaves himself out of the list previously, an (obvious) bias that I am correcting. I can completely see this. The later the game has gone on, the worse I have felt about Eevee and WW in particular. lio I think is town, and Zog I am null on which is a huge problem at this point in a game. So 2/3 of (WW/Eevee/Zog) makes complete sense prior to a re-read.

WW has been scum a million times. Did any of them involve full-throated bussing of a teammate?

Implicit assumptions here are that Hydrad is telling the truth, which is something I am willing to lose the game about based on how he claimed D1/playstyle afterwards.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1282 on: September 18, 2014, 02:45:20 pm »

Okay, given that you protected XP night 1, Hydrad being SK is slightly more likely.  If Hydrad is SK, that clears Volt, so that's still just case (3) with an additional SK.

Wait, silver used his shot N1 on XP?
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1283 on: September 18, 2014, 02:48:40 pm »

Volt's claim was really, really, really suspect.

Claimed to Cop Joth Night 1, and I didn't see a great reason to.  That claim justfies him not wanting to lynch Joth on Day 2, because he got a "Not Guilty" result.  The argument is that Godfather is less likely than town, so Joth isn't 100% cleared but he has a good reason to not think he's scum.

Then Volt magically gets Roleblocked Night 2 with a claimed Doctor and SK around, where he's dropped no hint of a PR.

Vote: Voltaire

You continue to want me to explain why I was roleblocked. My result didn't come with a memo from scum explaining it.

I am actually pretty much fine being mislynched here because I think we have time to recover from that and win anyway, with what's gone down here, but it'd be really unfortunate.

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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1284 on: September 18, 2014, 02:48:52 pm »

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Wait, silver used his shot N1 on XP?
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1285 on: September 18, 2014, 02:49:06 pm »

I think this is the first time I've ever been a full cop.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1286 on: September 18, 2014, 02:50:45 pm »

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2. scumteam is in the VTs (lio, Zog, Eevee, WW). WW leaves himself out of the list previously, an (obvious) bias that I am correcting. I can completely see this. The later the game has gone on, the worse I have felt about Eevee and WW in particular. lio I think is town, and Zog I am null on which is a huge problem at this point in a game. So 2/3 of (WW/Eevee/Zog) makes complete sense prior to a re-read.

the problem with that theory is, that it only works for a 0T setup (correct me if I'm wrong). that's a chance of 1/128. Do you really claim that this is the case?

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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1287 on: September 18, 2014, 02:51:46 pm »

The scumteam XP/me is much more plausible. The problem with that is, if we are in fact the scum team, town wins anyway, because you can just lynch us tomorrow/in 2 days. so there is no way we lynch one of us today.

and, once you flip scum, you'll see that it's not true.

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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1288 on: September 18, 2014, 02:51:54 pm »

the only thing that surprises me is that Voltaire was so willing to claim first

I was not anticipating your specific PR, that's for sure.

Anyone who is curious about my vote/unvote on silver D2, there's your explanation right there in his claim, btw. I'd forgotten his "slip" D1 when that began.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1289 on: September 18, 2014, 02:52:47 pm »

... what slip?

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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1290 on: September 18, 2014, 02:53:56 pm »

Am I seriously at L-1? Have I been hammered?

First full cop and I go down to misguided math.  :P Doesn't matter since we'll win, but this is not what I thought would happen when I got my PM.  :'(
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1291 on: September 18, 2014, 02:54:31 pm »

... what slip?

Your "I'm playing the same as my first game" when you were a PR. It's why I knew you were a PR (or scum preparing a fake claim, y'know).
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1292 on: September 18, 2014, 02:54:48 pm »

Me and WW were a big reason behind us getting joth lynched. Doesn't make much sense from either of us to do that for our strongest power role, no?

Then we do have people like Voltaire and Kingzog who conveniently didn't participate in lynching the godfather. Uh oh.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1293 on: September 18, 2014, 02:55:08 pm »

You are at L-1.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1294 on: September 18, 2014, 02:55:34 pm »

Eevee, if you're going to hammer you might as well. I trust everyone to come to the right conclusions.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1295 on: September 18, 2014, 02:55:42 pm »

Anyone object me hammering?
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1296 on: September 18, 2014, 02:57:00 pm »

I think it's most likely it's 2 of 3 of (Eevee/WW/Zog). WW is not obv!town.

Silver's claim conveniently clearing XP is incredibly suspect but I lean town on them, consider it if the first of the triumvirate flips town but probably not.

vote: Eevee for posterity.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1297 on: September 18, 2014, 02:57:49 pm »

Why is lio obvtown but WW is not?
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1298 on: September 18, 2014, 02:57:56 pm »

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Wait, silver used his shot N1 on XP?
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This is insanely suspicious though for someone who claims he didn't realize XP was an IC to him until today.
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Re: M49: James Bond Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1299 on: September 18, 2014, 02:58:29 pm »

Why is lio obvtown but WW is not?

What was the joth wagon? Wasn't everyone on it? Bussing is a given, and lio's playstyle after replacing in screams town!sub based on everything I've seen before.
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