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Re: Avalon (Quest 3.1)
« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2014, 08:40:17 am »

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Re: Avalon (Quest 3.1)
« Reply #101 on: August 17, 2014, 09:29:05 am »

Okay, so does this mean the game is resumed? If so, I see no reason not to send M2 again. Well, I'd actually prefer to switch someone out for me, but the mission is very likely clean already. There could be a single spy, but that seems like a dangerous play, passing M2, so that seems like a remote possibility. There's also a chance it's double spy. If it is, the two spies would almost certainly be Chairs and Jimmmmm, since Luser was mission leader (which means a) He wouldn't want to pick another spy and b) spy leaders are generally assumed to be the one in charge of failing, Chairs/Jimmmmm would just pass). So basically, it's probably clean, but double spy is something to bear in mind. So right now I actually don't see much advantage even to switching myself onto the mission. If it's clean, there's no advantage to doing so. If it's double spy, then I want to leave the likely double spy pair there - and so I'd be switching out someone I think is clean (Luser). I could switch Luser out just in case he's a spy playing a deep game, but... I dunno.

Any thoughts from others before I do anything?
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Re: Avalon (Quest 3.1)
« Reply #102 on: August 17, 2014, 11:39:30 am »

Okay, so does this mean the game is resumed?

Game is resumed.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 3.1)
« Reply #103 on: August 17, 2014, 12:25:11 pm »

I'm okay with resending the same team.  If we pass this mission, we've got a lock on not losing due to mission fails, so any spy in that team would reveal themselves this mission.

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Re: Avalon (Quest 3.1)
« Reply #104 on: August 17, 2014, 09:52:55 pm »

Sounds good to me.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 3.1)
« Reply #105 on: August 17, 2014, 09:55:28 pm »

Well, it's M3.1 anyway but lets do it.

M3.1: Propose Chairs, Luser, Jimmmmm
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Re: Avalon (Quest 2.1)
« Reply #106 on: August 19, 2014, 04:34:32 pm »

Sorry for the delay. Some of you have voted already, but for those who haven't:
Quest 3.1 has been proposed!

Leader: Tables
Team: chairs, luser, Jimmmmm

Votes are due via PM in 24 hours. I'll post results early if I get them early.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 3.1)
« Reply #107 on: August 22, 2014, 10:42:39 am »

Quest 3.1
Leader: Tables
Team: chairs, luser, Jimmmmm

Yes: chairs, Jimmmmm, jotheonah, mcmc, Tables
No: luser, Nevermind

Proposal passes!

chairs, luser, and Jimmmmm, you have 24 hours to send me your Success or Fail votes.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 3 underway)
« Reply #108 on: August 22, 2014, 10:14:11 pm »

I've got a bad feeling about this.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 3 underway)
« Reply #109 on: August 26, 2014, 12:16:27 pm »

bump?
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Re: Avalon (Quest 3 underway)
« Reply #110 on: August 26, 2014, 05:22:24 pm »

So will this be single or double fail? I am sure it would fail as at least one spy voted for this.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 3 underway)
« Reply #111 on: August 26, 2014, 06:35:10 pm »

Silence until we get results please.

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Re: Avalon (Quest 3 underway)
« Reply #112 on: August 26, 2014, 07:08:13 pm »

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Re: Avalon (Quest 3)
« Reply #113 on: August 27, 2014, 09:42:12 am »

Apologies for the delay!

Quest 3
Players: chairs, luser, Jimmmmm
Votes: Success, Fail, Fail

Quest 3 has Failed!


Now it's on to...
Quest 4 (4 players required, 2 FAILS required to fail)

Jimmmmm is up.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #114 on: August 27, 2014, 09:47:57 am »

Double fail is actually really good for us, right? As long as none of those three are on the next mission, we can't lose.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #115 on: August 27, 2014, 10:12:23 am »

Double fail is great because now I know for sure that luser and jimmmmm are spies, we can guarantee mission 4 by not sending any of the 3 of us as joth suggested.

You can tell luser was a spy because of his scumslip trying to get jimmmmm to not vote fail so they can plant a "maybe only one of us is a spy" card:

So will this be single or double fail? I am sure it would fail as at least one spy voted for this.

Obviously for mission 4 the safe bet is not to send me anyway, so yeah.

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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #116 on: August 27, 2014, 04:54:09 pm »

Both me and Luser signalled that Luser should fail that, Jimmmmm...

Anyway let's just kill Merlin (mcmc) and get this over with.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #117 on: August 27, 2014, 05:04:50 pm »

Well, I'm curious to see if your bet on MCMC was accurate.

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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #118 on: August 27, 2014, 06:58:49 pm »

Voltaire, could you update the voting record in the first post please?
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #119 on: August 27, 2014, 07:54:25 pm »

Well, I'm curious to see if your bet on MCMC was accurate.

Either he is merlin or he was pretty lucky. He out of blue correctly guessed two spies at day 1 and I had already send voiltare pm that I think mcmc is merlin. Then I proposed double spy mission as merlin bait and mcmc was only person outside mission that accepted it.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #120 on: August 28, 2014, 05:35:52 am »

Yeah. I just want to go through the voting pattern with a careful eye, because I think mcmc's actions have been pretty much perfect from day 1.

His day 1 accusation is either a bluff at Merlin, getting two very lucky guesses, or he is Merlin. The latter obviously makes more sense.

Secondly he accepted the double spy mission, twice. Which is interesting.

Thirdly he's been quiet. I think he realised he seemed Merlin-like, and has tried to keep a low radar since. Once the voting pattern is up I'll go over the rest of the game with a fine toothed comb.

Oh and just to make things official I'd like to propose the spies forefit and wish to move on to the assassination. If my fellow spy buddies could confirm but I think it's obvious we have little reason not to.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2014, 08:38:45 am »

Should I assassinate mcmc?
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #122 on: August 28, 2014, 10:23:48 am »

Probably. I'm pretty confident that's the right choice, but I'd like to be able to go over the evidence first, and I'd like the completed voting record to be able to do that.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #123 on: August 28, 2014, 10:27:55 am »

Actually, I've looked over things. There honestly aren't that many proposals to begin with. mcmc managed to always vote yes when a proposal was double or no spy, even if he wasn't on it. He voted yes to my proposal even though it should have seemed highly suspect. He came out all guns blazing against me, and then went quiet shortly after.

I just want to look over everyone else first, and see if I get Merlin-y vibes from anyone else.
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Re: Avalon (Quest 4.1)
« Reply #124 on: August 28, 2014, 10:38:22 am »

Okay, I've looked over everyone elses posts. Basically the big important thing that sticks out to me is this: If mcmc wasn't Merlin, someone else was. Another person, who should know nothing, just smacked the spy team down to about 3 possibilities (Jim+Tables and one of Chairs/Luser/Jotheonah). As Merlin, I'd definitely follow up on that. Maybe disagree with the reasoning a little, maybe open up the possibilities more ("yeah, I agree this makes Tables and Jimmmmm look bad... could be Tables double bluffing it though? Maybe it's him and Joth?" or something like that) to stay under the radar, but primarily, put pressure on the idea.

Nobody did. What does that tell us? Either Merlin was completely ignoring the almost perfectly accurate day 1 accusation... or he made it. I think we know which of those is most likely.
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