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[Adrien]

anyone in the D5 for a game right now ?

[mpsprs]

Here's a report about my match vs. KingZog in D3.

Game 1: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140708/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1404871584392.txt

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Pearl Diver, Hermit, Steward, Conspirator, Envoy, Militia, Sea Hag, Duke, Junk Dealer, Royal Seal
We both opened Militia/Steward, and consequently we both ignored Sea Hag.  Eventually we both settled on a single envoy and money.  Our decks were fairly similar, but KingZog had an envoy turn hit only 7, and got militia-ed out of another Province, and I snuck out a victory as second player.

Game 2:  http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140708/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1404871945061.txt

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University, Warehouse, Workshop, Farming Village, Gardens, Horse Traders, Spice Merchant, Contraband, Festival, Mountebank
We both went workshop/gardens (after opening horse traders with our four for some reason.  I'll admit to simply not seeing the workshop until turn 2).  I won the workshop split, but they collided often, and KingZog split the gardens and won the estate split, so again second player won.

Game 3: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140708/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1404872576024.txt

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Scheme, Farming Village, Horse Traders, Navigator, Salvager, Tournament, Treasure Map, Explorer, Knights, Adventurer
KingZog went first, had 5 coppers and grabbed Sylvia.  I went HT/Silver, and on turn 3 KingZog hit the HT with Sylvia, buying a gold.  I had 4, knew I had 4 turn four as well, felt I was way behind, so I grabbed two Treasure Maps and crossed my fingers.  They collided turn 7 (with no assistance).  I was also grabbing tournaments and provinces, and got the prizes.  KingZog grabbed more knights to counter, but the luck was too much to counter.  I feel bad about winning this one; I played to what I thought was my out, but still, brutal for him.  Oh, and yet again, second player one.

Game 4: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140708/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1404873177532.txt

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Embargo, Sage, Tunnel, Wishing Well, Moneylender, Taxman, Cartographer, Contraband, Soothsayer, Adventurer
KingZog went first, but I had the 2/5 split to pick up an early Soothsayer.  This led to me winning the curse (and gold) split.  I picked up a cartographer to help filter, while KingZog went Adventurer.  I think I like the cartographer better here, since it won't skip the soothsayer, and lets me skip copper if need be.  Certainly it worked here, as I cruised to a relatively comfortable win.  Four games, four second player wins.

Game 5: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140708/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1404874635156.txt

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Cellar, Urchin, Alchemist, Horse Traders, Procession, Rats, Baker, Cartographer, Stables, Goons
Baker board.  I started Urchin/HT, saving the token, while KingZog went Urchin/Stables.  I got an early Goods, and we both trashed down with Mercenary, but KingZog did so more effectively.  I think the early stables helped here, and I wish I had gotten one.  Eventually he grabbed two Goons (to play with Necropolis).  I started to green frantically, but I cashed in my coins for a double province turn too early I think, choked, and KingZog's better deck sealed the win.  Five games, and five second player wins.  Maybe first-player advantage doesn't exist in D3.

Game 6: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140708/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1404875102487.txt

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Haven, Storeroom, Woodcutter, Scout, Thief, Ill-Gotten Gains, Library, Merchant Ship, Rebuild, Hoard
Despite being a shelters game, we both played for rebuild.  I opened Silver/Woodcutter, and KingZog opened Silver/Storeroom.  I picked up a rebuild on turns 3 and 4, hoping I could buy some estates before too long, while KingZog got Rebuild/Estate.  Alas, turn 5 had both rebuilds and the overgrown estate (and I neglected to play a rebuild to force a reshuffle).  Nevertheless, I hit 5 much more regularly throughout the game, and felt fairly comfortable-I won the duchy split, and then the province split, and hence the game, and the match (finally the first player won).

Thanks to KingZog for the games.  If and when we meet for season 3, we can hope for some more engine-like games (we only saw two villages) and you can destroy me to make up for the BM/slog games or irrational luck that let me get the victory. 

[Mic Qsenoch]

Game 1: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140708/log.51467e35e4b0de86766bf3f3.1404871584392.txt

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Pearl Diver, Hermit, Steward, Conspirator, Envoy, Militia, Sea Hag, Duke, Junk Dealer, Royal Seal

This one looks like a clear Duke board, but it gets ignored entirely. Hermit for Estate -> Silver is awesome for Dukes and Militia really hurts Province strategies here.

[assemble_me]

D5, adrien vs assemble me

First game this season. I've had a lot of draws last season, this season I really want to win a few games . The D league looks stronger than last year looking at my opponents' Iso levels but today we are very near so a win could be possible.

As always, I'm very, very happy for any input regarding those games - thanks


Game 1

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Cellar, Hermit, Menagerie, Watchtower, Remake, Talisman, Band of Misfits, Wharf, Border Village, Grand Market
Provinces / Shelters
assemble me starts, adrien wins

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140711/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1405103405414.txt

First board and a great engine board right away. Remake is not the greatest thing ever because of Shelters. I open Hermit/Silver and my plan is to get lots of Border Villages and Wharves. He opens Hermit/Talisman to get extra Menageries. I'm not convinced of Talisman for Menagerie here, Wharf is just SO good. I'm getting a Remake for some Copper trashing (don't really know if it's been worth it.).
I'm winning the Wharf split 6-4 and also have two extra border Villages, he has an extra Menagerie. After drawing my deck I think I want to build for double Province turns and decide to trash two coppers and buy Grand Market + Menagerie. While ending my turn, I saw that it might have been a mistake because there were only two Border Villages and two Menageries left. With Remake it was very easy for him to end it on a win. So, I really screwed up my endgame, I think my deck was better.

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Game 2

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Forager, Masterpiece, Ironworks, Quarry, Cartographer, Council Room, Duke, Inn, Venture, Hoard
Provinces / Estates
adrien starts, assemble me wins

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140711/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1405103918474.txt

Another nice board here. Council Room / Big Money is good, and there's also Hoard to support it and maybe Masterpiece. Hoard and Masterpiece should be really nice for Duchy/Duke, too, but I prefer Hoard. You could also build an engine with Forager, Quarry, Council Room and Inn, which is what he does. I really like Alt-VP Slogs and with Hoard it should be quite nice. So he opens Ironworks/Silver and I open Silver/Silver. I'm getting 3/7 on my second shuffle which is great because I can buy my Hoard and start buying Duchies.
He denies me three Duchies and can start to draw some nice potions of his deck, but I'm getting a big points lead. I also have time to stop for a second Hoard as I hit 6$ right before a reshuffle, although I think a Masterpiece would have been much better at that point. But, it doesn't really matter, my lead becomes bigger. He helps me piling Estates and I win convincingly

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Game 3

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Embargo, Fool's Gold, Watchtower, Spice Merchant, Young Witch, Catacombs, Counterfeit, Journeyman, Royal Seal, Soothsayer, Wharf
Bane: Watchtower
Provinces / Estates
assemble me starts, adrien wins

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140711/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1405104601858.txt

I found this board pretty hard to evaluate. There's Fool's Gold with Spice Merchant (and Whaf, but neither of us had 5/2). There's also Young Witch and Soothsayer which make connecting Fool's Golds harder, but then there's some good draw with Wharf, Journeyman and Catacombs. Watchtower isn't the best bane, you probably want to use it rather the usual way then as a moat, but it also protects against Soothsayer. Counterfeit works well with Fool's Gold and with the extra golds from Soothsayer. The questions are if you want Fool's Gold at all or if it's too unlikely that they will connect with the cursing attacks around. If you want to go FG, do you want to open with Spice Merchant or rather with a Young Witch? Do you want a Soothsayer at all?
We both decided to go for Fool's Gold, he opened FG/YW where I opened FG/SM. On our second shuffle he gets his SM and I'm getting my YW. Unfortunately, my Spice Merchant doesn't help me to get double FG, where his does. I'm loosing the FG split 4-6 and he also puts the first two curses into my deck before I put a curse into his. My in-between Watchtower never shows up against his Young Witch. I'm picking up a Wharf and a Counterfeit, he gets lots of Counterfeits and lots of Gold. He's getting ahead with points so I think I have to break PPR and just gamble, but he wins.
I really would like to know how you would have played this board.

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Game 4

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Moat, Bridge, Conspirator, Envoy, Herald, Thief, Worker's Village, Highway, Hunting Party, Possession
Provinces / Estates
adrien starts, adrien wins

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140711/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1405105333431.txt

This board, I'd really love to play it again without Possesion.
So, we both open Silver/Bridge. I'm going hard for Hunting Parties while he puts in a Gold and a Potion quite early. He gets his Possession earlier than I do but it's not that bad until here. I win the Hunting Party Split 7-3 and we bot manage to get 3 Possessions and some Villages, but he can get an early Province for a points lead. I'd really need a Province myself but I can't.

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Game 5

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Poor House, Oracle, Steward, Storeroom, Alchemist, Mining Village, Sea Hag, Tournament, Vault, Border Village
Provinces / Estates
assemble me starts, adrien wins

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140711/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1405106776415.txt

I want to build an engine here with Tournament. Stewards to get a thin deck, play the Tournament more often and Alchemists for draw. He decides to build something with Vault and Poor House. I really would have liked to build more here, but I felt I was behind quite fast and couldn't afford to fall behind to far. His Tournaments helped him to Princess and later Followers while I went for Trusty Steed and Bag of Gold. I think I should have gotten Sea Hag and a Storeroom at some point. We both stall quite hard in the endgame, again I think I have to go for the PP (not sure about this anymore) and again I loose.

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Game 6

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Pearl Diver, Masquerade, Menagerie, Philosopher's Stone, Feodum, Pirate Ship, Scout, Wandering Minstrel, Trading Post, Goons
Provinces / Shelters
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140711/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1405108136309.txt

adrien starts, assemble me wins

He opens Masquerade / Minstrel while I go for Masquerade / Silver. I don't like opening WM because it just happens soo often that your early Silver gets discarted but you really want to hit 6 here. Also, with Necro around and Goons being the only relevant terminal, although the Sifting is quite good, you don't need that many Minstrels. He also gets a very early Pirate Ship (2nd or 3rd Shuffle) which I think is awful here as trashing my Coppers helps me more and I can buy some Coppers back with Goons later. I'm the first to get to Goons and get a bunch of Minstrels and Menageries, later some Pearl Divers. I'm picking up Goons No 2 and 3. His Pirate Ship doesn't hit a lot, because I don't buy a lot of Money. Otherwise, he's doing mostly the same, but he can never make up for my early lead. He gets for some late extra Goons which seems reasonable to catch up, but I can pile out soon enough with a convenient lead.

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Overall, a lot of interesting boards, probably the highest density of interesting boards during my league matches so far. Thanks to adrien for the games and good luck for your upcoming ones. I'm really unhappy with my performance here and hope to do better during my next games.

[Adrien]

thx for the game too
i m very bad about talking about our game.. if some great player want to ..
see u
a.

[Mic Qsenoch]

Game 1

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Cellar, Hermit, Menagerie, Watchtower, Remake, Talisman, Band of Misfits, Wharf, Border Village, Grand Market
Provinces / Shelters
While ending my turn, I saw that it might have been a mistake because there were only two Border Villages and two Menageries left. With Remake it was very easy for him to end it on a win. So, I really screwed up my endgame, I think my deck was better.

You didn't say this explicitly in your report, and you probably already know this, but you could have won the game on turn 12 by remaking your own Wharves (you had two and a Remake in hand at one point). If one pile is gone and two are low, you absolutely have to be thinking about three pile endings. On a board with this many gainers and buys, you should be thinking about it very soon.

It doesn't really matter whose "deck was better" and I read these reports a lot where people say this after they lose, I'm not sure what it is supposed to mean. Don't think about deck quality, think about winning the game.

Game 4

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Moat, Bridge, Conspirator, Envoy, Herald, Thief, Worker's Village, Highway, Hunting Party, Possession
Provinces / Estates
adrien starts, adrien wins

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140711/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1405105333431.txt

This board, I'd really love to play it again without Possesion.
So, we both open Silver/Bridge. I'm going hard for Hunting Parties while he puts in a Gold and a Potion quite early. He gets his Possession earlier than I do but it's not that bad until here. I win the Hunting Party Split 7-3 and we bot manage to get 3 Possessions and some Villages, but he can get an early Province for a points lead. I'd really need a Province myself but I can't.

You don't need so many Silvers here, 1-2 max. It's okay to buy nothing with $3, but a couple turns you had $4 and you should be getting WV/Herald or Conspirator if you want money. You had some really crappy luck on your HP draws here, you had several turns where you churned through your whole deck and picked up all 3 Estates instead of more Coppers, and ended with only $6 or something. This hurt early on, where you couldn't even get enough money to buy two $4 cards with Bridge. I think you waited a little too long to pick up a Potion, it's okay to take one over a HP once you have several HP. Your general approach after the Possessing starts is wrong I think. His deck is getting worse and worse by adding green, so Possessing him is starting to look undesirable. There was at least one turn where I think you should have played a Bridge instead of Possession. Also, he doesn't have a very good draw engine (and more junk all the time), so he won't be Possessing you that much. Which means you don't need to overreact to his greening and follow suit. Build a little, increase your consistency (Heralds especially), put in a Conspirator so you can afford Provinces, and try to beat him on Provinces. He'll probably buy a Province (or two) with your deck, but that's ok, you should still be taking more turns with your deck than he is. And if you add enough engine pieces first (Herald!), you should be able to Possess him more reliably.

Game 5

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Poor House, Oracle, Steward, Storeroom, Alchemist, Mining Village, Sea Hag, Tournament, Vault, Border Village
Provinces / Estates
assemble me starts, adrien wins

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140711/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1405106776415.txt

I want to build an engine here with Tournament. Stewards to get a thin deck, play the Tournament more often and Alchemists for draw. He decides to build something with Vault and Poor House. I really would have liked to build more here, but I felt I was behind quite fast and couldn't afford to fall behind to far.

I'm not in love with the Alchemists, but if you go for them, you need to really go for them. Putting in a Potion to buy just 3 is not worth it. I think you'd be better off going for a second Tournament over Potion. There's other draw available on this board, and you can set it up easily because of Border Village.
Turn 8 - Play the Alchemist! The reshuffle can't actually hurt you at all, and you have a chance of drawing your other Alchemist, a Tournament, or an Estate, all of which could help improve that turn.

After you buy your first Province, stop buying them for a little bit. Get Trusty Steed and Followers, add a Storeroom, maybe some more Alchemists, just build a little while you attack him every turn. Bag of Gold is easily the worst Prize here, as it usually is. You might eventually get some use out of it, but it comes way too soon here. Followers >> Bag of Gold, and it was especially true here. He is using Vault to get money so discard really hurts, he didn't have enough Poor Houses to worry about them.

As long as you have a better engine with a strong attack, a pile of Duchies and a way to gain several quickly (Tournament), and no looming 3 pile, you shouldn't scramble for points just because your opponent has bought a couple Provinces.

[Adrien]

thx for those explanations Mic
It s like we were in an other dimension we played like newbies
 
I ll be reading with attention

see u
a

[luser]

adrien vs luser

How luck evens out

game 1

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Great Hall, Steward, Death Cart, Nomad Camp, Quarry, Apprentice, Margrave, Mine, Mountebank, Rebuild
http://dominionlogs.goko.com/20140715/log.516d6935e4b082c74d7be8a5.1405435189810.txt

A colony rebuild game, her I could say that I won by opponents mistakes. Main difference was that I got mountebank before rebuild which slow him down. Second one was naming which left him with estates and he did not name estates which left him with few estate-estate turns.

Game 2

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Poor House, Embargo, Ambassador, Fishing Village, Wishing Well, Herald, Library, Royal Seal, Tribute, Nobles
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140715/log.516d6935e4b082c74d7be8a5.1405436181443.txt

Decided on opening split, well almost, it is ambassador board but I got 5-2 opening. As I see a herald/ambassador I decide to do try luck with royal-seal embargo to embargo heralds and build an fishing village engine. My problem was mainly mindset that I am behind and need to take risk instead of reality which causes me draw ambassador dead and lose ambassador war.

I do not believe to heralds here, If I got a 3-4 split I am fairly sure that with ambassador/fishing village/ambassador and going library/nobles engine will beat heralds as it would start drawing deck sooner but I would need tempo for that.

Also when I read a log a ambassador/embargo and fishing village/ ambassador on second shuffle should also work.

game 3

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Develop, Fishing Village, Workshop, Ironworks, Golem, Band of Misfits, Bandit Camp, Upgrade, Vault, Forge
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140715/log.516d6935e4b082c74d7be8a5.1405436691694.txt

Won in first turn. Here I got a 5-2 split which allowed a vault which is quite fast, also buying upgrade and forges and upgrading forges or forging provinces into provinces speed end. Opponent tried to create some develop engine but it did not took of.

Game 4

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Beggar, Masterpiece, Sage, Shanty Town, Advisor, Butcher, Cultist, Haggler, Harvest, Knights
Where by luck is defeated by his luck. Here I get dame anna and he gets sir michael. With that advantage I manage to give him all ruins but he loads beggars and with sir michael early trash one of my golds and at end duchy that allowed him buy last province.

I did several mistakes, main was greening early and not overpaying masterpiece for money and knight fodder.

game 5

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Moat, Great Hall, Urchin, Armory, Contraband, Embassy, Library, Mint, Rabble, Expand
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140715/log.516d6935e4b082c74d7be8a5.1405437833226.txt

Again colonies and I by choosing embassy instead rabble and trashing few treasures with mint. I win despite worse luck, he has more treasures than I has which started from his 5-2 opening split.

game 6

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Fortune Teller, Masquerade, Menagerie, Oasis, Mining Village, Throne Room, Wandering Minstrel, Cache, Council Room, Forge
Here I underestimated that fortune teller without green is worse that with green. We had similar decks his fortune teller was problem as we used wandering minstrels and it caused missed reshufles of my cards.

[michaeljb]

michaeljb vs GeoLib

game 1 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140715/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405477912686.txt

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Beggar, Moat, Lookout, Remake, Embassy, Horn of Plenty, Ill-Gotten Gains, Laboratory, Soothsayer, Expand
Remake + Treasures, into IGG. Also some Expand fun. I get more Duchies but GeoLib gets more Provinces for the close win, 31-28.


game 2 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140715/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405479117578.txt

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Trade Route, Caravan, Marauder, Noble Brigand, Smithy, Butcher, City, Duke, Rabble, Vault
Butchers and Cities are the main thing here, with Caravan and Rabble for more draw and Trade Route for a little bit more trashing. I opened Marauder, GeoLib took Smithy, and the Ruins slowed him down enough to give me the edge. I also won the City split 6-4, and took the game 27-20.


game 3 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140715/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405481012616.txt

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Haven, Pearl Diver, Scrying Pool, Great Hall, Menagerie, Swindler, Armory, Throne Room, Ghost Ship, Bank
Scrying Pool + Swindler slogfest. I opened Potion, GeoLib took Armory, and that seemed to be working out better for him early on as it let him get the Pools up sooner. He Swindled my early Menageries and Swindler into Great Hall, then realized Silver might have been a better choice given the SPs. Eventually my deck turned around with a couple of sudden big turns and I won the game. At the end my deck did have substantially more treasure than Geo's, maybe that was the real key. 23-9.

game 4 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140715/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405481861379.txt

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Poor House, Crossroads, Masquerade, Island, Marauder, Cache, Cultist, Haggler, Laboratory, Stash
Cultist/Crossroads/Masquerade fun. I won the Ruins split 6/4, and took a Gold with my first non-Cultist 6 while Geo took a Haggler that was never played. I win again, 22-15.

game 5 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140715/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405482987112.txt

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Tunnel, Familiar, Advisor, Feast, Militia, Worker's Village, Butcher, City, Journeyman, Altar
Butcher and City again, this time with Familiar shenanigans at the beginning and Journeyman as the $5 Smithy of choice. I grabbed a couple of early Advisors, that was probably a mistake. Geo goes harder into the Altars and Butchers, giving him more endgame control. I was up with 2 Provinces left, but he just Butchered one and bought the other to take the win in another close one, 24-21.


game 6 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140715/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405484264494.txt

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Smugglers, Envoy, Fortress, Militia, Nomad Camp, Quarry, Butcher, Counting House, Stash, Fairgrounds
Butcher, yet again. This time to go with an Fortress+Envoy engine and additional support from Nomad Camp, Quarry, and Smugglers. I won the Fortress split 6-4, and got in some key Butcher plays to take the game 31-17.


Last season GeoLib beat me 4.5-1.5, so getting 4 points here feels good, especially in a tough series like this one. Thanks to GeoLib for the great games!

[Mic Qsenoch]

michaeljb vs GeoLib

game 1 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140715/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405477912686.txt

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Beggar, Moat, Lookout, Remake, Embassy, Horn of Plenty, Ill-Gotten Gains, Laboratory, Soothsayer, Expand
Remake + Treasures, into IGG. Also some Expand fun. I get more Duchies but GeoLib gets more Provinces for the close win, 31-28.

I think you can skip the IGG rush here with a Laboratory stack. Lookout/Remake should be able to handle the curses, and the Lab deck can make excellent use of HoP and Expand. It's a bit of a hassle to get the HoP to $8 (it's possible), but that isn't necessary, they're still good to load up on Laboratories and Expand fuel. The HoPs also let you snap up multiple Duchies at the end to make up points. The risk of this deck is that the IGG player might get too many Provinces too fast.

[michaeljb]

I did consider opening Lookout/Remake, but didn't give enough thought to going after Labs instead of IGG. Definitely would have been more fun trying a really divergent strategy like that.

Lately I feel like a couple cards like IGG have really been tripping me up--I feel like I've somewhat fallen into "oh this card is here, guess we have to focus on it." Maybe I just need to take more time at the beginning to really explore my options.

[michaeljb]

D1, michaeljb vs Aidan Millow

game 1 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140716/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405554204664.txt

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Moat, Squire, Ambassador, Trade Route, Gardens, Herald, Wandering Minstrel, Young Witch, Counterfeit, Torturer, Upgrade
I try for Squires/Gardens instead of the Torturer engine, and get an early lead but fumble it in the end. At one point I even bought a Curse or two to edge the pile closer, but ended up being unable to pile out for the win. Aidan takes the close win, 42-40.

game 2 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140716/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405555054634.txt

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Chancellor, Fortune Teller, Hermit, Coppersmith, Horse Traders, JackOfAllTrades, Tournament, City, Graverobber, Grand Market
An early Coppersmith helps Aidan get the first Province, and not long after that I abandon all thoughts of Prizes, instead trying to grab some Colonies. I buy the only Platinum, and my Jack and Hermits do a decent job of keeping the Curses at bay. Aidan takes the City split, 6-4, but my Colonies and treasure are enough to give me the close win in this one, 43-39.

game 3 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140716/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405555627665.txt

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Black Market, Alchemist, Advisor, Marauder, Nomad Camp, Remodel, Worker's Village, Margrave, Mine, Stables

Black market deck cards: Governor, City, Jester, Farmland, Venture, Market Square, Conspirator, Secret Chamber, Fool's Gold, Courtyard, Golem, Bank, Bazaar, Goons, Outpost, Highway, JackOfAllTrades, Fortress, Doctor, Mountebank, Ironmonger, Thief, Ambassador, Oracle, Crossroads
I get some key Black Market pulls with Mountebank, Outpost, and a $9 Doctor. Aidan nabs the Ambassador and the Jack but it's not enough to fend off the Mountebank and Marauder. As my engine really starts to rev up, Aidan resigns so we can get on to the next one.

game 4 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140716/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405556108492.txt

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Poor House, Courtyard, Native Village, Caravan, Envoy, Feast, Herald, Horse Traders, City, Hunting Party
Hunting Party + Horse Traders is the main thing here. I also got a couple more $4 hands, so I picked up some Caravans. At the end I was able to buy Province+City, then Province+Envoy, setting a double Province turn. I had a big advantage here opening 4/3 to Aidan's 5/2. Ultimately my final deck was exactly like his plus another Silver, 2 Caravans, an Envoy, and 2 more Provinces for a 36-24 win.

game 5 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140716/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405556746027.txt

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Candlestick Maker, Lighthouse, Steward, Storeroom, Caravan, Marauder, Wandering Minstrel, Graverobber, Junk Dealer, Altar
We both focused on Graverobbing our way to Provinces, with Altar to help gain more Graverobbers and Candlestick Maker to save up some coin. On my last turn I held on to 4 Coin tokens instead of spending all of them for a Duchy, believing that Aidan wouldn't be able to double-Province, and hoping to maximize my chances of double Provincing the next turn. Aidan pulls it off though, taking the game 27-24.

game 6 - http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140716/log.50a6c1abe4b03214bb7822e9.1405557553547.txt

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Vineyard, Candlestick Maker, Hamlet, Conspirator, Herald, Butcher, Venture, Goons, Hunting Grounds, Nobles
Herald+Conspirator+Goons+Nobles+Candlestick Maker fun. I'm content with one Conspirator at the start, while Aidan picks up a few more along the way, and we split the Heralds, but I took all 8 Nobles. I was able to get the Goons rolling much sooner, and in the end did the usual run-up-the-Goons-score play, winning 74-20.

Thanks to Aidan for the fun series!

[assemble_me]

D5, assemble me vs. luser

My second match, I don't have any expectation but would enjoy to play draw again . I guess it would be a good result here, but let's see how it's going.
As always I'd love to read your thoughts about the games, thanks


Game 1

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Fool's Gold, Squire, Advisor, Herald, Marauder, Pirate Ship, Throne Room, Cartographer, Embassy, Adventurer
Provinces / Shelters
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140716/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1405534255942.txt

luser starts, assemble me wins

On this board, there's Fool's Gold. I'm not sure if Squire is a real good enabler. I guess it's OK, it might be cool if two of your early Fool's Golds and your Squire collide for triple FG, but is that going to happen? There's also a lot of non-terminal draw (Herald, Advisor, Cartographer) and Embassy as terminal draw. I decide to go Marauder into Embassy-BM and ignore Fool's Gold and the other stuff. Early on, I think he goes for something similar, but he tries to build an engine with Squires, Throne Rooms, Embassies and Marauder. I'm not sure about that, I'm thinking Embassy isn't an engine's biggest friend ever. As expected, I'm going for green earlier than him, but buying the third Province on turn 10 is probably better than usual. That's way too fast for him and I also get the best Ruined Library ever from his Marauder: It helps me to reach 8$ twice for Provinces No. 4 and 5.

1-0


Game 2

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Black Market, Hermit, Masquerade, Mining Village, Worker's Village, Horn of Plenty, Pillage, Stables, Border Village, Fairgrounds

BM deck: Procession, Apprentice, Royal Seal, Gardens, Bazaar, Saboteur, Highway, Goons, Counterfeit, Native Village, Develop, Steward, Ironworks, Laboratory, Vineyard, Wharf, Menagerie, Duchess, Haven, Monument, Hunting Grounds, Moneylender, Hamlet, Thief, Chapel

Provinces / Estates
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140716/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1405535364678.txt

luser starts, luser wins

This time it's clearly an engine board. Fairgrounds is very appealing with a strong Black Market deck. So we're both going for the engine. I can't really tell why, but his deck is coming together much better. I had a bad turn 11 with only money in hand and that probably nailed it for him. I'm not sure if he could end it faster but loosing the Horn split big time made it probably impossible to catch up.

1-1


Game 3

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Embargo, Vagrant, Fortune Teller, Fortress, Herald, Ironmonger, Ghost Ship, Minion, Mountebank, Adventurer
Provinces / Estates
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140716/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1405535924181.txt

luser starts, assemble me wins

After my first turn, luser says "Ouch" here, because I'm having 5/2 for Mountebank/Embargo where he goes for Fortune Teller/Silver. So it's a sloggy Mountebank war game. We both pick up two Mountebanks. He hits 4$ a LOT and buys many Ironmongers. I know it's one of the best 4$s but I'm not sure how good it is here. Of course, you can discard the extra Coppers, but you'll cry whenever you reveal a curse. I'm deciding to get Minions on my subsequent 5$s for the cycling to play my Mountebanks more often (or the money). With 9 Ironmongers and Curses gone and an extra Province for me (and an exra Curse for him), I start rushing Duchies. After a lot of blocked Mountebank attacks I can finally get the 6th curse into his deck and reach a comforting win. It's almost funny that I never had an opportunity to trash my Embargo.

So, he went first three times and I'm in a 2-1 lead, that's a good match position.

2-1


Game 4

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Masquerade, Village, Bishop, Marauder, Wandering Minstrel, Band of Misfits, Catacombs, Stables, Altar, Farmland
Provinces / Estates
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140716/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1405537365277.txt

assemble me starts, luser wins assemble me wins

Band of Misfits is great with all those powerful 3$ and 4$ cost cards. I decide to build some kind of engine that can buy one Province per turn. He's buying more components and less money. I'm taking a points lead, but after 4 Provinces my deck stalls and I'm worried that he might catch up with BoM as Bishop. Finally, he trashes something and buys the last Province. I think he would have won the game but later, I realize that he had trashed a Duchy and I have won by one point.

3-1


Game 5

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Great Hall, Bridge, Island, Monument, Talisman, Band of Misfits, Ill-Gotten Gains, Rogue, Trading Post, Adventurer
Provinces / Shelters
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140716/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1405537735170.txt

assemble me starts, luser wins

I had just been thinking that I had no standard IGG rush or Rebuild game for a while and: There we go. We both decide that double Monument into IGG is the way to go. But before the first IGG, we both decide to pick up a Trading Post on 5$. He's able to get to Province, I'm not. At the end, I'm taking the penultimate Duchy for a three point lead. On his turn, he has a Trading Post to trash a curse and 5$ for the last Duchy.

3-2


Game 6

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Hamlet, Doctor, Procession, Throne Room, Bandit Camp, Butcher, Ghost Ship, Horn of Plenty, Knights, Soothsayer
Provinces / Shelters
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140716/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1405538291623.txt

assemble me starts, assemble me wins

luser says he'd like 5/2 here so I reveal my 5 coppers and say something like yes, but I'm not sure what to go for. Soothsayer looks good, Doctor with Overpay is great and the top Knight is Dame Anna. I'm not a big Knights fan in general and rather want that Soothsayer later. I really want to open Doctor so I just go for it. Soothsayer Golds + Butcher looks pretty good to me. He gets Dame Anna early and I'm a bit worried about that, but I stick to my plan. I guess his Knight hits are only mediocre and that early Doctor really accelerated my deck here and feel I'm ahead. I happily pick up a Province early for it being Knight prove. The Throne Room is probably a bit wacky but it helps me to play double Soothsayer, so I guess that worked out as well. I actually don't trash Golds for Provinces, but he can't make up my early (points) lead.

4-2


So, finally I could win a league match . Good luck to luser for his upcoming games and sorry for that match result thing...

[Mic Qsenoch]

Game 2

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Black Market, Hermit, Masquerade, Mining Village, Worker's Village, Horn of Plenty, Pillage, Stables, Border Village, Fairgrounds

BM deck: Procession, Apprentice, Royal Seal, Gardens, Bazaar, Saboteur, Highway, Goons, Counterfeit, Native Village, Develop, Steward, Ironworks, Laboratory, Vineyard, Wharf, Menagerie, Duchess, Haven, Monument, Hunting Grounds, Moneylender, Hamlet, Thief, Chapel

Provinces / Estates
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140716/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1405535364678.txt

luser starts, luser wins

This time it's clearly an engine board. Fairgrounds is very appealing with a strong Black Market deck. So we're both going for the engine. I can't really tell why, but his deck is coming together much better. I had a bad turn 11 with only money in hand and that probably nailed it for him. I'm not sure if he could end it faster but loosing the Horn split big time made it probably impossible to catch up.

On Turn 14 you had an automatic win. Gain BV/Duchy for 3 pile, gain Province with HoP and buy one Province.

I would say you undervalued draw here, it looks like you both should have gotten more Stables before so many HoPs. You also hit $4 quite a lot unfortunately. I don't like the Silver buy on Turn 10, just get Border Village.

[shraeye]

shraeye vs KingZog 2-4

Game 1: Video+commentary and the Log

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Pearl Diver, Vagrant, Forager, Herald, Explorer, Governor, Hunting Party, Merchant Ship, Altar, ExpandGovernor, Hunting Party, Herald, Explorer all compete for my attention.  Turns out that Governor was the best to do.
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Game 2: Video+commentary and the Log

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Courtyard, Crossroads, Lighthouse, Moat, Develop, Hermit, Lookout, Embassy, Stables, HaremI open Lookout/nothing because of a misclick, things go downhill from there.
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Game 3: Video+commentary and the Log

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Transmute, Chapel, Native Village, Lookout, Watchtower, Conspirator, Envoy, Plaza, Tournament, EmbassyTournament game, other cards are pretty blah...the game hinges on who gets Princess, the only +Buy
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Game 4: Video+commentary and the Log

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Chapel, Hamlet, Herbalist, Lighthouse, Feodum, Apprentice, Graverobber, Outpost, Rebuild, Altar
KingZog surprises me with a Feodum/Graverobber combo in what I thought would be a straight Rebuild board.
0-4

Game 5: Video+commentary and the Log

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Haven, Fishing Village, Baron, Spy, Wandering Minstrel, Catacombs, Harvest, Junk Dealer, Torturer, King's Court
A true engine board; King's court happens, Junk Dealer/Harvest for payload, Baron for +Buy.
1-4

Game 6: Video+commentary and the Log

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Develop, Philosopher's Stone, Armory, Rats, Cartographer, Catacombs, Outpost, Rogue, Vault, Witch
Witch slog; Philosopher's Stone helps the late-game.
2-4

[KingZog3]

shraeye vs KingZog 2-4

Game 1: Video+commentary and the Log

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Pearl Diver, Vagrant, Forager, Herald, Explorer, Governor, Hunting Party, Merchant Ship, Altar, ExpandGovernor, Hunting Party, Herald, Explorer all compete for my attention.  Turns out that Governor was the best to do.
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Game 2: Video+commentary and the Log

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Courtyard, Crossroads, Lighthouse, Moat, Develop, Hermit, Lookout, Embassy, Stables, HaremI open Lookout/nothing because of a misclick, things go downhill from there.
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Game 3: Video+commentary and the Log

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Transmute, Chapel, Native Village, Lookout, Watchtower, Conspirator, Envoy, Plaza, Tournament, EmbassyTournament game, other cards are pretty blah...the game hinges on who gets Princess, the only +Buy
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Game 4: Video+commentary and the Log

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Chapel, Hamlet, Herbalist, Lighthouse, Feodum, Apprentice, Graverobber, Outpost, Rebuild, Altar
KingZog surprises me with a Feodum/Graverobber combo in what I thought would be a straight Rebuild board.
0-4

Game 5: Video+commentary and the Log

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Haven, Fishing Village, Baron, Spy, Wandering Minstrel, Catacombs, Harvest, Junk Dealer, Torturer, King's Court
A true engine board; King's court happens, Junk Dealer/Harvest for payload, Baron for +Buy.
1-4

Game 6: Video+commentary and the Log

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Develop, Philosopher's Stone, Armory, Rats, Cartographer, Catacombs, Outpost, Rogue, Vault, Witch
Witch slog; Philosopher's Stone helps the late-game.
2-4

Since we played in 2 parts, I dont remember the first 3 games too well. Game 3 Shraeye took Followers first which I think is the reason I won. Game 4 I used Rebuild+Feodum to gain economy that is often lacking in Rebuild games, and Graverobber solidifies by making them actually worth points when I gain them back. Game 5 I stalled and also my Baron couldn't find an Estate till like turn 9 or something. Game 6 was just a slog, I don't know if PStone was worth it, but I just bought it for fun to see if I could make it worth it.

[shraeye]

shraeye vs mpsprs 3-3

Game 1: Video+commentary and the Log

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Poor House, Oracle, Steward, Workshop, Horse Traders, Pirate Ship, Thief, Young Witch, Golem, Hoard, Hunting GroundsA slog with a lot of terminal actions.  I sort of fall into the situation where I want to do too much; that and I consistently undervalue Horse Traders.  As a stream-viewer (KingZog) pointed out, Golem probably should have been more seriously considered here.  Thoughts?
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Game 2: Video+commentary and the Log

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Loan, Oasis, Oracle, Talisman, City, Duke, Merchant Guild, Mine, Pillage, Rabble
Cities split 6-4, which is super helpful.  Went full-engine with some of almost every card (Oracle, City, Merchant Guild, Mine, Rabble, Oasis). 
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Game 3: Video+commentary and the Log

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Transmute, Moat, Pawn, Scheme, Philosopher's Stone, Farming Village, Spy, Counting House, Soothsayer, Goons
Counting house saves me from a slow start!!  Extra coppers from Goons' +Buy helps power Philosopher's Stone and Counting House.
2-1

Game 4: Video+commentary and the Log

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Squire, Market Square, Scheme, Trade Route, Watchtower, Gardens, Navigator, Young Witch, Council Room, Library, Altar
watchtower/YW, with Gardens finish...  Market Square + Watchtower means there are always lots of little decisions about what order to buy things in.  Library is fun.
3-1

Game 5: Video+commentary and the Log

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Pawn, Market Square, Philosopher's Stone, Advisor, Feodum, Island, Plaza, Explorer, Trading Post, Expand
painfully close...twice I was a single coin token shy of winning.  Silver-heavy game with Trading Post, Explorer, Feodum.  Feodums could get big here.
3-2

Game 6: Video+commentary and the Log

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Fortune Teller, Workshop, Feodum, Quarry, Remodel, Count, Embassy, Market, Rebuild, Hunting Grounds
Rebuild game in which I can't hit 5 until turn 9...that's never going to go well
3-3

[Mic Qsenoch]

For shraeye

Game 1 - The Pirate Ships are terrible. Second Steward looks bad, and I'm not sure about the Workshop, I guess it's ok. Turn 13 you should take +2 coins and buy a Gold or a Hoard, trashing YW/Copper is very bad. Horse Traders definitely looks good on this board. As does Hoard, which is ignored by both players.

Game 6 - Expect to not hit $5 much if you open Workshop and add Feoda on turns 4 and 5.

[shraeye]

Game 6 - Expect to not hit $5 much if you open Workshop and add Feoda on turns 4 and 5.

Yeah, i think i mentioned this during the stream.  I certainly didn't do grand on that last one.  Thanks for the comments!

[assemble_me]

D5, assemble me vs. dunduks

Today it's time for my third league game right after my vacation break. I'm playing against dunduks who got a real head start and will hardly lose his first place in our group. That makes me the underdog in this game but anything is possible in this league, I think

As always, please leave comments as tiny as you may think they'd be. I'll appreciate it very much. Thanks.


Game 1: Flip that Hag

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Duchess, Wishing Well, Workshop, Caravan, Feodum, Pirate Ship, Sea Hag, Band of Misfits, Explorer, Adventurer
Provinces / Estates
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140729/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1406656571905.txt

Dunduks starts

No trashing and Sea Hag, that probably means Sea Hag slog. He opens Sea Hag / Workshop on 4/3. I mirror his opening. My plan is to use the Workshop to get a reasonable amount of Silvers to make Feodum worth picking up. He uses it to gets Caravans and I decide to add some too, but I don't want THAT many. He manages to flip my Sea Hag twice before I can even play it, and I already feel like I can't win this any more, but the turns he played his Hag he couldn't buy anything and I already have a nice amount of Silvers. So, I can spike $8 in turn 8 and take that lucky Province. I'm losing the Curse split 3-7 but I can even get a second Province and manage to count my Silvers. With 8-0 points lead, Caravans and Curses gone and 8 Silvers in my deck I draw Workshop + 4$. I decide it's time to rush Feoda and I pick up two. Even with that much crap in my deck I can get to 4$ often enough and on an off 3$ I get the missing Silver to get 3 point Feoda. He can pick up three Provinces until the game ends, but that's not good enough.

1-0


Game 2: Plenty of Fuel for that Horn

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Hermit, Menagerie, Storeroom, Warehouse, Conspirator, Mining Village, Baker, Horn of Plenty, Mandarin, Forge
Provinces / Estates
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140729/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1406657579544.txt

assemble me starts

Here we have a huge Horn of Plenty engine board where almost every card looks playable, maybe except for Mandarin (but you could build that Mandarin / Horn "golden" deck combo, but no one went for it and it's maybe to wacky to set up, although I've never played it or even seen it played in a video). There's Menagerie for draw and Warehouse to help it activate, Baker and Conspirator for extra $$, Storeroom for $$ and +Buy, Mining Village for extra Actions and Hermit to trash starting Estates and to get more of those juicy 3$ cards. With Baker, we both open 3/5. I'm going for Hermit/Baker where he goes for Warehouse/Horn. Usually, I'm a big fan opening Warehouse, but here I think Hermit is just better. Also, I'm not a big fan opening Horn; with the Warehouse it can work out but I think it's quite risky. We're both building our engines and our decks are quite similar, but he can win the Menagerie Split 6-4 where I have an extra Conspirator and an extra Warehouse. Also, although I see many cards of my deck, I manage to draw two of my Estates after I see my Hermit and can't trash them. I buy an in-between Province as piles are running. He decides to use his Horns to pick up Duchies but as I'm getting my mega turn I can pile out Estates for the win.

2-0


Game 3: Tortured Platinum

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Death Cart, Plaza, Silk Road, Talisman, Throne Room, Cartographer, Harvest, Mint, Torturer, Border Village
Colonies / Estates
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140729/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1406659032870.txt

Dunduks starts

This board clearly looks like a Torturer engine to both of us and we both open Plaza/Silver on 4/3. I have five Coppers on turn 3 and I'm really inclined to buy Mint. I guess I'd take it next time here, but I just go for the Torturer. I'm getting a second Silver which he doesn't. He can pick up some extra Border Villages and gets two Throne Rooms. After my fourth Torturer I decide to pick up a Cartographer first and I buy a Platinum as soon as I can. My Platinum helps me to get to Colonies and he has to use his coin tokens to keep up. As the Curses are gone there are only two Border Villages left for the three pile ending. I had already thought about getting Border Village Duchy over my second Colony. But he's quite close and my engine isn't fireing consistently. After a dud hand on my side he goes for BV+Duchy but I can answer with a Colony to retake the lead. Now he has a dud hand and with seven coin tokens my win is guaranteed. I really like my Platinum buy here.

3-0


Game 4: The Torturer strikes back

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Beggar, Smugglers, Swindler, Feast, Fortress, Procession, Quarry, Bazaar, Contraband, Torturer
Provinces / Estates
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140729/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1406659873853.txt

assemble me starts

And the next Torturer engine right away. There's also Procession / Fortress for extra fun. I open Smugglers / Silver because I expect to gain lots of nice cards from it and he opens Quarry / Swindler. I guess Quarry is OK if you're really desperate to get 5$ actions. Not sure about Swindler with Fortress around, it's probably still good. Smugglers were OK but maybe I should have taken a Swindler instead. Probably my biggest problem here was to accept WAY to many curses. I guess I've really played this one badly.

3-1


Game 5: Trash-o-mania

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Herbalist, Great Hall, Market Square, Herald, Nomad Camp, Remake, Talisman, Butcher, Farmland, Harem
Provinces / Estates
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140729/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1406660671682.txt

Dunduks starts

This board revolves around the interaction between Market Square, Remake and Butcher. He opens Remake / Market Square and I really don't like my 2/5 here. I'm opening Butcher because I want it anyway and after the second shuffle our decks are mostly similar. I'm picking up a second Butcher where he manages to trash more Coppers and picks up more Heralds for draw. With Gold, Butcher and two Market Squares I start going for Provinces. His extra building pays of: Right before the end he can double Province and take a lead that is big enough that I can't catch up. So, building more was probably the right call here, I guess I sometimes forget how good Herald can be in such a trimmed deck.

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Game 6: I count on my Tunnel

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Transmute, Sage, Tunnel, Watchtower, Island, Count, Embassy, Venture, Harem, King's Court
Provinces / Shelters
http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140729/log.50e7525ee4b0b5b74140a6c0.1406661240340.txt

assemble me starts

This is clearly a board where Tunnel can shine. It works with Count, Embassy and maybe Venture. I don't like King's Court here. The best you can do is to basically guarantee a Province if you KC your Embassy or you can pick up all the Duchies if you use Count. But is that going to happen? I think a simple Embassy plan should be faster with Tunnel support. I'm having 2/5 here and go for Count. It can activate Tunnel and a little trashing seems useful for the money deck, too. And of course, I don't want to make the early Silver gift to him. He buys a Count but gets a lot of Islands before his first Tunnel. With my Embassy I start my Province buying, Gold gaining machinery. He picks up King's Court, which, as I said, I don't really like here. With 4 Provinces gone and a 6 points lead for me he gets his Embassy, I answer buying my second Embassy over Duchy to increase reliability. I'm still a bit worried that he might pull of something crazy with his King's Court but the best he can get is buying Province / gaining Duchy once. My Embassies and Golds carry me to the win.

4-2


Wow, what a game. I really didn't expect to lead 3-0 after three games and I'm also happy to not totally screw things up afterwards. Besides that, Goko did a really nice job for us with perfectly alternating start players and we also didn't have to restart our final game.
Good luck to Dunduks for his upcoming matches, I think he still has very good chances to advance to C.

[Dunduks]

assemble me, tnx for report.

I just want to say that at turn 18  when "You had already thought about getting Border Village Duchy over your second Colony." BV buy was win because there are too many points between us and you'll byu last BV next turn.

[assemble_me]

assemble me, tnx for report.

I just want to say that at turn 18  when "You had already thought about getting Border Village Duchy over your second Colony." BV buy was win because there are too many points between us and you'll byu last BV next turn.

I think you're right. I guess I didn't look at my coin tokens during that turn. I counted them now and I should have had 6 and that would have been enough to ensure the win.

[Breezy D]

Due to a general lack of time, I haven't been writing up my games during the league. But Temron asked me about feedback on the games, so I thought I'd make the effort. Also for a few of these games I felt I was in a great position but lost in the endgame and I'd love to learn from my mistakes!

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Black Market, Chancellor, Alchemist, Marauder, Militia, Navigator, Plaza, Embassy, Festival, Hunting Grounds
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140731/log.516cd2c1e4b082c74d7a166a.1406852409229.txt

Temron chose militia as an initial attack and I chose marauder. Temron used hunting ground for draw and I went for alchemists. I think these two choices left Temron with more junk cards in deck and a need for villages to increase his hand. With black market, we each got trashers however Temron wound up with trading post and I had lookout. This left me with a thinner deck that could just about draw itself and set me up well to pile out for the win.

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Transmute, Courtyard, Shanty Town, Alchemist, Cartographer, Merchant Ship, Pillage, Trading Post, Altar, Grand Market
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140731/log.516cd2c1e4b082c74d7a166a.1406853195177.txt

Temron began on 5/2 with a trading post. This thinned out his deck and set him up well to pick up many grand markets and win the alchemist split.

On 3/4 I opened silver/potion. An initial shanty town might have been better than silver and would have provided more draw or let me play my altar and trader together. Or maybe I should have went gold over altar and bought a trading post over cartographer the following turn.

Anyways, I was chasing after Temron the whole game and wasn't surprised that he won this one.

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Beggar, Menagerie, Ironmonger, Pirate Ship, Baker, Contraband, Graverobber, Merchant Guild, Torturer, Altar
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With Baker on the board we both open silver torturer. I chose a baker on my next 5, Temron went for a second Torturer. I liked baker because I thought coin tokens might make it easier to pick up Ironmongers with smaller hands. I'm not sure that was right or not but I did pick up 7 Ironmongers which consistently game me extra actions for Torturer chains.

However Temron also hit 3 estate/2copper hands on both T4 and T6, which greatly slowed him down. His T6 hand was a direct consequence of drawing 3 coppers with Torturer. In this case, playing a baker instead would have left him with a better subsequent hand and more early Ironmongers.

This slow start probably gave me the edge to take the lead.

One other note: With 6 coins on T5, Temron bought an altar. I'm not sure that was  great move as it added a third terminal to the mix. I think I would have went for Ironmonger.

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Great Hall, Swindler, Fortress, Moneylender, Apprentice, Ghost Ship, Highway, Mystic, Saboteur, Grand Market


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Apprentice and fortress made this a great board for draw. Moneylender helped thin out our decks and build to grandmarkets. Swindler added some surprises.

On T15 I could have gone double colony but I was afraid of a dud hand on T16 so kept building. There are a number of ways I could have played the endgame differently.

What sealed my fate though was swindler hitting a colony leaving only 2 colonies for Temron to buy for the win. Had swindler hit anything else I would have been fine. This swindler action is fitting though since Temron's swindler hit 3 of my estates early on.

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Moat, Squire, Market Square, Oracle, Smugglers, Workshop, Cutpurse, JackOfAllTrades, Harvest, Witch
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A game with a combo of squire, joat, and witch (market square tossed in for fun)

I thought I had the lead with witches and squire but wound up with more curses.

The game was close for a bit then it wasn't.

I wonder whether double jack with markets for golds would have been quicker.

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Candlestick Maker, Lighthouse, Steward, Bishop, Remake, Trader, Mine, Mint, Hoard, Bank
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We both went remake into mostly big money.

A few times on hands with 2 coins I chose to buy nothing over candlestick maker or lighthouse hoping to speed up my cycling. That might have been a bad idea.

This is one game I wonder what others might do.

This was a good set of games with Temron. They were a nice challenge to play and I think Temron and I were well matched.

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Due to a general lack of time, I haven't been writing up my games during the league. But Temron asked me about feedback on the games, so I thought I'd make the effort. Also for a few of these games I felt I was in a great position but lost in the endgame and I'd love to learn from my mistakes!

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Black Market, Chancellor, Alchemist, Marauder, Militia, Navigator, Plaza, Embassy, Festival, Hunting Grounds
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Temron chose militia as an initial attack and I chose marauder. Temron used hunting ground for draw and I went for alchemists. I think these two choices left Temron with more junk cards in deck and a need for villages to increase his hand. With black market, we each got trashers however Temron wound up with trading post and I had lookout. This left me with a thinner deck that could just about draw itself and set me up well to pile out for the win.

This was decided purely by not going for marauders. with marauder/silver opening a embassy/hunting grounds/plaza will deal ruins faster than you got money density to hit 3p. Also with militia weakens alchemists when played each turn as they allow you redraw to 6

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Transmute, Courtyard, Shanty Town, Alchemist, Cartographer, Merchant Ship, Pillage, Trading Post, Altar, Grand Market
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Temron began on 5/2 with a trading post. This thinned out his deck and set him up well to pick up many grand markets and win the alchemist split.

On 3/4 I opened silver/potion. An initial shanty town might have been better than silver and would have provided more draw or let me play my altar and trader together. Or maybe I should have went gold over altar and bought a trading post over cartographer the following turn.

Anyways, I was chasing after Temron the whole game and wasn't surprised that he won this one.

Well here you need to know what is important and what is not. Alchemist split is not as three alchemists are enough to draw all terminals consisting of 6 silvers, potion and trading post, a grand market split is important. So you should open silver/courtyard and get trading post, potion and 3 alchemists, 2 cartographers and as many gm you can, I could get 6 by turn 12. Altar is mistake as trading post trashes better except copper->cart but you do not need that many of them.

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Beggar, Menagerie, Ironmonger, Pirate Ship, Baker, Contraband, Graverobber, Merchant Guild, Torturer, Altar
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With Baker on the board we both open silver torturer. I chose a baker on my next 5, Temron went for a second Torturer. I liked baker because I thought coin tokens might make it easier to pick up Ironmongers with smaller hands. I'm not sure that was right or not but I did pick up 7 Ironmongers which consistently game me extra actions for Torturer chains.

However Temron also hit 3 estate/2copper hands on both T4 and T6, which greatly slowed him down. His T6 hand was a direct consequence of drawing 3 coppers with Torturer. In this case, playing a baker instead would have left him with a better subsequent hand and more early Ironmongers.

This slow start probably gave me the edge to take the lead.

One other note: With 6 coins on T5, Temron bought an altar. I'm not sure that was  great move as it added a third terminal to the mix. I think I would have went for Ironmonger.

You both missed strongest engine there, torturer is mistake as it helps oponent more than you. A correct opening is contraband/silver and create menagerie engine, torturer just helps with hands that otherwise did not activate menagerie or altar fodder.

You start with contraband/silver and if oponent is smart to deny you altar gain a gold then get altar, ironmorgers, bakers, merchant guilds and for extra fun gaining provinces by graverobbing bakers gained by altar.

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Great Hall, Swindler, Fortress, Moneylender, Apprentice, Ghost Ship, Highway, Mystic, Saboteur, Grand Market
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Apprentice and fortress made this a great board for draw. Moneylender helped thin out our decks and build to grandmarkets. Swindler added some surprises.

On T15 I could have gone double colony but I was afraid of a dud hand on T16 so kept building. There are a number of ways I could have played the endgame differently.

What sealed my fate though was swindler hitting a colony leaving only 2 colonies for Temron to buy for the win. Had swindler hit anything else I would have been fine. This swindler action is fitting though since Temron's swindler hit 3 of my estates early on.

Well here you both should get more apprentices and fortresses you would need less treasure.  swindler is not that hot here it helps when it hits fortress.

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Moat, Squire, Market Square, Oracle, Smugglers, Workshop, Cutpurse, JackOfAllTrades, Harvest, Witch
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A game with a combo of squire, joat, and witch (market square tossed in for fun)

I thought I had the lead with witches and squire but wound up with more curses.

The game was close for a bit then it wasn't.

I wonder whether double jack with markets for golds would have been quicker.

Here witch looks ignorable as 2 jacks and two squires a silver flood is enough, you made mistake of buying too many squires which act like copper and slowed your cycling and trashing.

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Candlestick Maker, Lighthouse, Steward, Bishop, Remake, Trader, Mine, Mint, Hoard, Bank
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We both went remake into mostly big money.

A few times on hands with 2 coins I chose to buy nothing over candlestick maker or lighthouse hoping to speed up my cycling. That might have been a bad idea.

Here you should try make a hoard engine, you had too much silver there. A basic idea is trash to deck that contains only two hoards and then greening will generate massive amount of gold, you could empty 8 provinces in about 10 turns after setup.

Fastest way for that is get mint and hoard and for that stewards are better than remake as 2 cards allow find extra coppers and draw two cards once they did trashing.