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[qmech]

I know rogue is supposed to be the best,but I'm sitting 0-2 already with a deck too full of 2-drops...

http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/f878ud

I went 4-3 with a Rogue deck just like that yesterday.  I took every card I was offered over 4 mana and ended up with just as much late game as you did.

[KingZog3]

You can go lots of wins with nothing over 6 mana if your early game is good. Also, yeah the strong decks need to get high wins through someone, and sometimes you get burned by strong deck early. But I don't think it's as often as you think. Small play errors can make games seem impossible though.

[Haddock]

Bah.  Horrible connection issues for me lately.

3 consecutive arena runs have had at least one loss to a disconnect.  Which can make the difference between 3 wins and 6/7.  Really infuriating.

[ycz6]

[Titandrake]

I did a double-take, since someone I sort of know posted a very similar photo to Facebook recently. Looks like it's a different player though.

[ycz6]

That is impressively similar.

Are there any cards I could get from Saraad that would give me a reasonable chance of winning? Maybe Sap or Naturalize? My deck contains no board wipes, silences, weapon removals, or hard removals, though I do have a couple big taunts and a Kraken.

[Watno]

Sap and Naturalize both sound like they'd give you a chance.

I think the best play possible is Unstable Portal->Mind Control Tech takes Tirion

[KingZog3]

Sap, Silence, Naturalize all seem like they could work. A freeze works too, like Frost Shock, or Ice Lance, at least to delay for a potential second spell maybe.

[qmech]

Today I drafted the world's greediest Paladin deck.

Repentance
Worgen Infiltrator
Young Dragonhawk
Zombie Chow

Equality
Argent Protector
Flame Juggler
Gilblin Stalker

Coghammer
Argent Horserider
Dancing Swords
Demolisher x2
Ogre Brute
Scarlet Crusader

Blessing of Kings
Hammer of Wrath
Keeper of Uldaman x3
Murloc Knight x2
Piloted Shredder

Djinni of Zephyrs
Tuskar Jouster

Archmage
Drakonid Crusher
Kodorider x2
Master Jouster

Painfully low on 2 drops, but good draws and lots of 3's meant I usually got away with it.  Highlights were buffing Young Dragonhawk with Keeper of Uldaman (twice), Djinni+Blessing of Kings (twice) and a Mage I faced early on who played two Flamestrikes and Polymorphed my first 3 inspire minions, only to have nothing left for the fourth.

I've yet to hit 12 wins and thought this might stand a chance, but alas it petered out at 10-3.

Edit: This guy with 3 Tirion's may also have a claim to the title.

[KingZog3]

There's a link somewhere there to a guy who had 4 Tirions. I'm surprised you got that many wins with so few 2 drops, but otherwise it's a super good deck. At 10wins though, just getting lucky for 2 more is sometimes what makes a deck go 12 over 10. So you'll get 12 someday.

[Kirian]

Well, I'm nothing if not consistent, going 3-3-3-4-2-3 in my last six arenas...

Huh.  And opened the Mistcaller.  Maybe time to play some Shaman?  Or useless?

[qmech]

Well, I'm nothing if not consistent, going 3-3-3-4-2-3 in my last six arenas...

Huh.  And opened the Mistcaller.  Maybe time to play some Shaman?  Or useless?

More or less.  Sorry.  It's extreme value, but 6 mana for a 4/4 is awful tempo.

[KingZog3]

Well, I'm nothing if not consistent, going 3-3-3-4-2-3 in my last six arenas...

Huh.  And opened the Mistcaller.  Maybe time to play some Shaman?  Or useless?

More or less.  Sorry.  It's extreme value, but 6 mana for a 4/4 is awful tempo.

Even if you play enough minions to make it worth it, it isn't even good. The big minions do basically nothing.

[Jorbles]

Well, I'm nothing if not consistent, going 3-3-3-4-2-3 in my last six arenas...

Huh.  And opened the Mistcaller.  Maybe time to play some Shaman?  Or useless?

More or less.  Sorry.  It's extreme value, but 6 mana for a 4/4 is awful tempo.

Even if you play enough minions to make it worth it, it isn't even good. The big minions do basically nothing.

Mistcaller is really cool on paper. I don't own it so I'd at least play around with it a bit in Unranked, but general consensus on how good the card is, is reflected above.

[werothegreat]

Well, I'm nothing if not consistent, going 3-3-3-4-2-3 in my last six arenas...

Huh.  And opened the Mistcaller.  Maybe time to play some Shaman?  Or useless?

More or less.  Sorry.  It's extreme value, but 6 mana for a 4/4 is awful tempo.

Even if you play enough minions to make it worth it, it isn't even good. The big minions do basically nothing.

Mistcaller is really cool on paper. I don't own it so I'd at least play around with it a bit in Unranked, but general consensus on how good the card is, is reflected above.

See if you can plop Brann/Mistcaller on turn 9.

[Grujah]

And follow it up with.. what?

[werothegreat]

And follow it up with.. what?

Like, anything?  Everything you play will have +2/+2.  How about Al-Akir and a Flametongue Totem?

[Grujah]

and for most cards those +2+2 might not matter than much. Like, you'd have way less trouble by just playing some good cards on 9, and than following it up with Alkir / Rockbiter instead.

[Awaclus]

Yeah, when you're running something in your deck that you can't really play before turn 9, it needs to do stuff immediately. Like, it needs to have charge, or a battlecry that actually does something that's relevant now, and it also needs to have a pretty big body if it's a minion (or whatever it does needs to be extremely powerful if it's a spell). Mistcaller doesn't do anything immediately and it doesn't even have a big body.

[Grujah]

Yeah, when you're running something in your deck that you can't really play before turn 9, it needs to do stuff immediately. Like, it needs to have charge, or a battlecry that actually does something that's relevant now, and it also needs to have a pretty big body if it's a minion (or whatever it does needs to be extremely powerful if it's a spell). Mistcaller doesn't do anything immediately and it doesn't even have a big body.

Yeah, you've just played a 4/4 for 6, you will need a lot to recover. If you were behind on board, you going to lose the board. If you were even/ahead, you've given opponent chance to catch up. Sure, your guys from now on will have +1+1 (or +2+2, w/e) but how much till that actually recovers you? And why are you putting yourself in that situation in the first place?

Same reason why Jaraxxus is not as good as one might think.

[qmech]

Same reason why Jaraxxus is not as good as one might think.

I'm not sure how to take this, because Jaraxxus is very, very good.  You certainly need to find a moment to play him, but he's such a tremendous source of value that he single-handedly wins many control matchups for Warlock.

[markusin]

Same reason why Jaraxxus is not as good as one might think.

I'm not sure how to take this, because Jaraxxus is very, very good.  You certainly need to find a moment to play him, but he's such a tremendous source of value that he single-handedly wins many control matchups for Warlock.

Jaraxxus is great against the non-combo variants of Warrior/Priest who would otherwise be able to outlast you in the fatigue war most of the time. 15 health is pretty low against many other matchups though, but you have other tools to deal with those as a control-style Warlock.

[KingZog3]

Mistcaller and Jaraxxus are not really comparable. Mistcaller does nothing the turn he is played, and his value doesn't kick in until many turns later. Jraxxus lets you attack right away, and value comes very fast with a 2 mana 6/6 the next turn. Also he heals the turn you play him. He's got extra value in his Demon tag, although less now that Voidcaller is out of Standard play.

I had the fourtune of opening Mistcaller. I used him in a deck a few times just to see, and like, he's bad for the same reason no one run Fireguard Destroyer. Sure he's huge, but aggro deck just ignore him. Mistcaller isn't even big. His stats are distributed over tons of minions and tons of turns. His entire effect is completely ignorable, and he'd only be usable if the meta was centered around decks that just try to out fatigue each other. And even then, I think there's better 6 drops that you might not include him.

[Awaclus]

Jaraxxus is great against the non-combo variants of Warrior/Priest who would otherwise be able to outlast you in the fatigue war most of the time. 15 health is pretty low against many other matchups though, but you have other tools to deal with those as a control-style Warlock.

Well, Jaraxxus is a pain in the ass, but I think more often than not, I can actually outlast Jaraxxi in the fatigue war with my Control Warrior. Then again, I haven't played Ranked very actively for several seasons so it's probably at least partially because I'm playing against noobs.

[Grujah]

Jaraxxus is a good card (MUCH better than Mistcaller), but he does carry a huge tempo loss, but great way to easily get it back too.

Not sure how many of you actually played the Erdard Lord, but he doesn't really bring anything to board when you play it. Yes, you can attack, and thats it. You need to have a clear board or be taunted up to not get steamrolled. Yes, 6/6 add up, and you win most of the time you get 1 or two out, but you played nothing (w/o Emperor shenenings) the turn you went Oblivion, so unless you manage to recover the turn after (usually means re-clear the board and/or taunt up), you can go down easily. Ok, you are less likely to die to some less bursty classes, but even against Pally I find myself in this weird spot where I just cant aford to lose a turn Jaraxusin'. Even if he just goes Boom that is enough presence to threaten possible lethal if you cant deal with it.
 
@Awaclus - Jaraxxus won't let you go to fatigue, most of the time. You need to deal with 6/6 each turn and than find a window to burst him (Ysera Awekens/Grommash is the most effective). Edit: at least I dont. Vs warrior you are the beatdown and need to wear him down before fatigue.