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[KingZog3]

I decided to gamble 150 gold on Arena to see if I could get to the most recent League wing faster. Went 8-3, got 155 gold, felt silly (at least I got 110 dust).

I decided to do the same thing... and went 1-3 after drafting 3 legendaries

Unless the legendaries are Dr.Boom or Tirion, most legends are just average, or decent large bodies. Many are even pretty poor, and all my best runs usually didn't have legends, while my poor runs did have legendaries.

[markusin]

I decided to gamble 150 gold on Arena to see if I could get to the most recent League wing faster. Went 8-3, got 155 gold, felt silly (at least I got 110 dust).

I decided to do the same thing... and went 1-3 after drafting 3 legendaries

Unless the legendaries are Dr.Boom or Tirion, most legends are just average, or decent large bodies. Many are even pretty poor, and all my best runs usually didn't have legends, while my poor runs did have legendaries.

Ah so it isn't just me. Yeah it really depends on the Legendary. If your legendaries were Dr. Boom, Ysera, and Kel'Thuzad then you have a good chance of doing well as opposed to having say Loatheb, Alexstrazsa, and Baron Geddon.

[ycz6]

My Mage opponent just milled my entire deck expect for 4 cards off of my Fel Reaver on turn 7.

Unfortunately for her, those cards were Druid of the Fang, Ironbark Protector, Argent Commander, and Force-Tank MAX.

[Kirian]

I decided to gamble 150 gold on Arena to see if I could get to the most recent League wing faster. Went 8-3, got 155 gold, felt silly (at least I got 110 dust).

I decided to do the same thing... and went 1-3 after drafting 3 legendaries

Unless the legendaries are Dr.Boom or Tirion, most legends are just average, or decent large bodies. Many are even pretty poor, and all my best runs usually didn't have legends, while my poor runs did have legendaries.

Ah so it isn't just me. Yeah it really depends on the Legendary. If your legendaries were Dr. Boom, Ysera, and Kel'Thuzad then you have a good chance of doing well as opposed to having say Loatheb, Alexstrazsa, and Baron Geddon.

These were Antonidas, Troggzor, and Rafaam (who I never drew).

[KingZog3]

I decided to gamble 150 gold on Arena to see if I could get to the most recent League wing faster. Went 8-3, got 155 gold, felt silly (at least I got 110 dust).

I decided to do the same thing... and went 1-3 after drafting 3 legendaries

Unless the legendaries are Dr.Boom or Tirion, most legends are just average, or decent large bodies. Many are even pretty poor, and all my best runs usually didn't have legends, while my poor runs did have legendaries.

Ah so it isn't just me. Yeah it really depends on the Legendary. If your legendaries were Dr. Boom, Ysera, and Kel'Thuzad then you have a good chance of doing well as opposed to having say Loatheb, Alexstrazsa, and Baron Geddon.

These were Antonidas, Troggzor, and Rafaam (who I never drew).

How many spells did you have for antonidas? He's usually not great beacuse you can't get much value from him. Often a 7 mana 5/7. Troggzor is good if he has no minions on board. So you need to be able to clear board, or have minions out yourself. Rafaam is probably decent. he's new so I don't really know, but I think he's pwerful. Again, you need to actually survive till turn 9, then 10, then 11 to actually have any use from him.

[Awaclus]

There are a lot of really good legendaries though. It's just that the cards that are ridiculously bonkers tend to be commons (Paladin commons in particular) and sometimes rares.

[Kirian]

I decided to gamble 150 gold on Arena to see if I could get to the most recent League wing faster. Went 8-3, got 155 gold, felt silly (at least I got 110 dust).

I decided to do the same thing... and went 1-3 after drafting 3 legendaries

Unless the legendaries are Dr.Boom or Tirion, most legends are just average, or decent large bodies. Many are even pretty poor, and all my best runs usually didn't have legends, while my poor runs did have legendaries.

Ah so it isn't just me. Yeah it really depends on the Legendary. If your legendaries were Dr. Boom, Ysera, and Kel'Thuzad then you have a good chance of doing well as opposed to having say Loatheb, Alexstrazsa, and Baron Geddon.

These were Antonidas, Troggzor, and Rafaam (who I never drew).

How many spells did you have for antonidas? He's usually not great beacuse you can't get much value from him. Often a 7 mana 5/7. Troggzor is good if he has no minions on board. So you need to be able to clear board, or have minions out yourself. Rafaam is probably decent. he's new so I don't really know, but I think he's pwerful. Again, you need to actually survive till turn 9, then 10, then 11 to actually have any use from him.

Frostbolt, Fireball, Flamecannon, Flame Lance, Blizzard, CoC, 2 Polys, 2 Spellslingers.

Not once did I get a spell off with him out.  It doesn't help that against a Mage I failed to check for Mirror Entity, and my opponent got 5 Fireballs from him...

[KingZog3]

I decided to gamble 150 gold on Arena to see if I could get to the most recent League wing faster. Went 8-3, got 155 gold, felt silly (at least I got 110 dust).

I decided to do the same thing... and went 1-3 after drafting 3 legendaries

Unless the legendaries are Dr.Boom or Tirion, most legends are just average, or decent large bodies. Many are even pretty poor, and all my best runs usually didn't have legends, while my poor runs did have legendaries.

Ah so it isn't just me. Yeah it really depends on the Legendary. If your legendaries were Dr. Boom, Ysera, and Kel'Thuzad then you have a good chance of doing well as opposed to having say Loatheb, Alexstrazsa, and Baron Geddon.

These were Antonidas, Troggzor, and Rafaam (who I never drew).

How many spells did you have for antonidas? He's usually not great beacuse you can't get much value from him. Often a 7 mana 5/7. Troggzor is good if he has no minions on board. So you need to be able to clear board, or have minions out yourself. Rafaam is probably decent. he's new so I don't really know, but I think he's pwerful. Again, you need to actually survive till turn 9, then 10, then 11 to actually have any use from him.

Frostbolt, Fireball, Flamecannon, Flame Lance, Blizzard, CoC, 2 Polys, 2 Spellslingers.

Not once did I get a spell off with him out.  It doesn't help that against a Mage I failed to check for Mirror Entity, and my opponent got 5 Fireballs from him...

Only 1 of those can be played the turn he comes out. I just don't think Antonidas is that strong in arena. Also, check for mirror if you can

[Grujah]

I decided to gamble 150 gold on Arena to see if I could get to the most recent League wing faster. Went 8-3, got 155 gold, felt silly (at least I got 110 dust).

I decided to do the same thing... and went 1-3 after drafting 3 legendaries

Unless the legendaries are Dr.Boom or Tirion, most legends are just average, or decent large bodies. Many are even pretty poor, and all my best runs usually didn't have legends, while my poor runs did have legendaries.

Ah so it isn't just me. Yeah it really depends on the Legendary. If your legendaries were Dr. Boom, Ysera, and Kel'Thuzad then you have a good chance of doing well as opposed to having say Loatheb, Alexstrazsa, and Baron Geddon.

These were Antonidas, Troggzor, and Rafaam (who I never drew).

How many spells did you have for antonidas? He's usually not great beacuse you can't get much value from him. Often a 7 mana 5/7. Troggzor is good if he has no minions on board. So you need to be able to clear board, or have minions out yourself. Rafaam is probably decent. he's new so I don't really know, but I think he's pwerful. Again, you need to actually survive till turn 9, then 10, then 11 to actually have any use from him.

Frostbolt, Fireball, Flamecannon, Flame Lance, Blizzard, CoC, 2 Polys, 2 Spellslingers.

Not once did I get a spell off with him out.  It doesn't help that against a Mage I failed to check for Mirror Entity, and my opponent got 5 Fireballs from him...

Only 1 of those can be played the turn he comes out. I just don't think Antonidas is that strong in arena. Also, check for mirror if you can

OBJECTION.

Exibit A:
http://i.imgur.com/Ed9jREn.png
Exibit B:
http://i.imgur.com/GjVKbx9.png

I end my case. This is my latest Arena game.

In all out seriousness, it just shows how completely bonkers Eteral Conjurer is. Dark Wispers is from Spellslinger, Fireball is from Conjurer, and Antonidas is from Unstable Portal which is from Conjurer. I also have 2 mana wurms and 2 Flamewakers.  And 2 Flamestrikes.

But Conjurer is ridiculous. If you are ahead, it basically NEVER whiffs, and only ocasionally if you are behind. And it allows you to get what you are missing from the deck, for example.

Raven Idol is similarily bonkers, it has such high chance to provide you leathal, it's not even funny. I've ridden it today to 11-3 (1 damage off lethal on that last game).

[() | (_) ^/]

Just finished a run... I didn't expect this Rogue deck to do so well!  Made it to 9-3.

2xBackstab
Deadly Poison
Leper Gnome
Southsea Deckhadn
Betrayal
Shiv
Bloodsail Raider
Garrison Commander
Gilblin Stalker
2xGoblin Auto-Barber
Jeweled Scarab
Knife Juggler
Murloc Tidehunter
2xArgent Horserider
Emperor Cobra
Harvest Golem
Raging Worgen
SI:7 Agent
Evil Heckler
Mechanical Yeti
Piloted Shredder
Assassinate
Sludge Belcher
Vanish
Gadgetzan Auctioneer
Sprint
Dr. Boom

[KingZog3]

Those images are pretty great, but really not a good example of Antonidas in a regular arena deck.

[Jorbles]

Just finished a run... I didn't expect this Rogue deck to do so well!  Made it to 9-3.

2xBackstab
Deadly Poison
Leper Gnome
Southsea Deckhadn
Betrayal
Shiv
Bloodsail Raider
Garrison Commander
Gilblin Stalker
2xGoblin Auto-Barber
Jeweled Scarab
Knife Juggler
Murloc Tidehunter
2xArgent Horserider
Emperor Cobra
Harvest Golem
Raging Worgen
SI:7 Agent
Evil Heckler
Mechanical Yeti
Piloted Shredder
Assassinate
Sludge Belcher
Vanish
Gadgetzan Auctioneer
Sprint
Dr. Boom

Lol, that deck is really good. Even the bad cards have good synergies. Plus you have Dr. Win.

[KingZog3]

So I had a second legendary in an already control deck. My pick was between Sir Mrrrglton (in mage), Bolf and Majordomo. I picked Mrrrglton, and turns out, if you save him people assume as a mage you won't have much healing. So getting one of the 2 healing hero powers is huge vs aggro decks that are trying to push for the last 4-8dmg to win. He's better than I thought so far.

[Grujah]

Ok, remmeber when Paladin got Murloc Knight and it was like, the most broken arena common ever?

Well, Keeper of Uldaman is WAY worse. That card is COMPLETELY broken in arena. (And is pretty good in constructed too).

Just went 12-2, with Muster, Quartermaster, Minibot, Sword and Consecrate. And yeah, 2 Keepers of Uldaman. Boy, it was a breeze. At 11-1 I lost to a Paladin with 3 Musters, that was completely disgusting too.

[shraeye]

Having new cards is exciting, and I understand that weighting the new set guarantees that it shows up.  But mostly, it seems to make the meta pretty unbalanced.  When one class gets stronger cards, and then arena decks show up with 3-4 of those cards...that's not balanced.  I think they need to turn down the new card bias significantly.

[KingZog3]

Having new cards is exciting, and I understand that weighting the new set guarantees that it shows up.  But mostly, it seems to make the meta pretty unbalanced.  When one class gets stronger cards, and then arena decks show up with 3-4 of those cards...that's not balanced.  I think they need to turn down the new card bias significantly.

I thought they took out all bias in arena after league of explorers came out.

[shraeye]

I thought that the bias was gone only when LoE was partially open.  But they were going to give adventure cards a bias once all of LoE was out.

[Grujah]

Continuing on that Antonidas thing:
Yeah, I posted that screenshot in jest, but he has proven very good today. I picked him as my first card of the deck over Pagle and Emperor. Deck was pretty slick, I had some monsterous openings like T1 Manawurm, T2 Sorc Apprentice, T3 Flamewaker Coin Spell.

I had 2 Wurms, 1 Apprentice, 1 Flamewaker, 1 Spellslinger and 1 Conjurer.
2 flame cannon, 2 Fireballs, 1 Mirror Image, 1 Flamestrike, 1 Frostbolt.. 1 Arcane Missiles I believe. 1 spare part guy and also Echo of Medivh which was pretty decent too.
Antonidas was pretty decent, I even Echoed him once, every time I drew him I managed to get 1 fireball most of time time, sometimes more. Dont think he was ever stuck in my hand. I did lost my 9-2 to Antonidas induced greed, but he might have gotten me either way, I am not sure.

And jeez, am I on a roll. I had three 7+ wins arenas in a row, and I opened a legendary in 3 out of those 4 packs!

[KingZog3]

Rogue is the queen of arena. Better than Paladin with murloc knights. Draft low, with a 6 drop or 2, and its so easy to get a lot of wins.

[Co0kieL0rd]

Rogue is the queen of arena. Better than Paladin with murloc knights. Draft low, with a 6 drop or 2, and its so easy to get a lot of wins.

While I agree that Rogue is probably the strongest class in Arena, I think it's one of the harder classes to play. Valeera has a lot of very powerful low-cost cards, especially the combo cards, but having "so many options", as she likes to point out while thinking, bears a high potential of misplay. She will easily dominate the early game but from there a lot of mistakes can be made by unskilled players.
Mage and Paladin dominate Arena not only because of their great hero powers and numerous strong common cards but also because any noob can play and win with them if their deck is at least decent (which will usually be the case). Rogue is even better but drafting and playing your Arena deck optimally requires a lot more skill IMO.

[KingZog3]

Rogue is the queen of arena. Better than Paladin with murloc knights. Draft low, with a 6 drop or 2, and its so easy to get a lot of wins.

While I agree that Rogue is probably the strongest class in Arena, I think it's one of the harder classes to play. Valeera has a lot of very powerful low-cost cards, especially the combo cards, but having "so many options", as she likes to point out while thinking, bears a high potential of misplay. She will easily dominate the early game but from there a lot of mistakes can be made by unskilled players.
Mage and Paladin dominate Arena not only because of their great hero powers and numerous strong common cards but also because any noob can play and win with them if their deck is at least decent (which will usually be the case). Rogue is even better but drafting and playing your Arena deck optimally requires a lot more skill IMO.

That's quite possible. You do need to draft and play well with rogue, because often you're balancing how much dmg you can take with your dagger, and you need to know when yo play into AoE of when to hold back. Often though just playing into AoE and hoping they don't have it works out quite well.

[werothegreat]

So I just drafted a pretty decent Druid deck!   ....on the Europe account I just opened.  Oh well.  2 Raven Idols, 2 Starfalls, a Swipe, a Nourish, a Wild Growth, a fair amount of both Beast and Mech synergy... forced a Shaman to concede, and I think it'll go pretty well.  Just wish I had drafted it on my main NA account.  XD

[KingZog3]

So I just drafted a pretty decent Druid deck!   ....on the Europe account I just opened.  Oh well.  2 Raven Idols, 2 Starfalls, a Swipe, a Nourish, a Wild Growth, a fair amount of both Beast and Mech synergy... forced a Shaman to concede, and I think it'll go pretty well.  Just wish I had drafted it on my main NA account.  XD

I sometimes do my Euro quests to get a free arena run for practice. It's still good. Raven Idol is a monster card in arena. It's so amazing. I think it's best to save it for when the discover will matter. To pick an answer when you need it, not just playing it turn 1. Wild Growth is ok in arena, but it's by no means an auto pick, and least how I value it. But ramp can be strong if your draft has a curve for it.

[KingZog3]

I think I drafted my most insane run ever.

Avengex2
Acidic Swamp Ooze
Jeweled Scarab
Mechwarper
Micro Machine
Shielded Minibot x3!
Ship's Cannon
Sunfury Protector
Sseal of Champions
Earthen Ring Farseer
Mind Control Tech
Truesilver Champion x2!
Consecration x2!
Chilwind Yeti
Keeper of Uldaman
Muloc Knight x2!
Fen Creeper
Pit Fighter x2
Avenging Wrath
Boulderfist Ogre
Master Jouster
Lay on Hands
North Sea Kraken

It feels unbeatable.

[Jorbles]

I think I drafted my most insane run ever.

...

It feels unbeatable.

12-0? It looks like it should do that.