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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #450 on: February 20, 2015, 11:19:25 pm »
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Paladin arena, very first pick.

Avenging Wrath, Coghammer, Sword of Justice
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #451 on: February 21, 2015, 04:25:40 am »
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I find weekends are a lot easier in arena.  I've reached 7 wins at the weekend, and almost always get at least my stake back.  I've tried twice on weekday evenings recently and had two very embarrassing experiences.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #452 on: March 01, 2015, 04:40:23 pm »
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Just played an Arena game in which I played 5 Consecrations and my opponent played Alexstrasza and Ragnaros on consecutive turns

I killed the Rag by topdecking an Abusive Sergeant, which I used on my 6/1 Piloted Sky Golem

Then the last card in my opponent's deck was Mind Control, which he used on my Boulderfist Ogre

I topdecked Sen'jin right after that and then Gruul the next turn, but it was too late :(

(the two cards left in my deck at game end were Puddlestomper and King Mukla)
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #453 on: March 09, 2015, 05:36:09 pm »
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Just went 12-0 as mage. Highlights of the deck were 3 fireballs, 1 polymorph, 1 blizzard, 1 flamestrike, and the only weak minions were 1 angry chicken and 1 Oasis snapjaw. The chicken came from the option of Alarmo, chicken or Ancient Watcher. There was only 1 game that I came close to losing, otherwise I had frost bolts and a flamecannon for early removal and strong end game minions to keep me alive. Also 3 fireballs means tons of game ended on turn 8-9 with just a huge burst of damage.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #454 on: March 09, 2015, 07:28:10 pm »
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I killed the Rag by topdecking an Abusive Sergeant, which I used on my 6/1 Piloted Sky Golem

I just realized...how did this work?  Was the PSG immune?  But then the +2 attack doesn't work, right?
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #455 on: March 09, 2015, 11:18:29 pm »
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The Piloted Sky Golem was 6/1 for reasons unrelated to the Ragnaros.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #456 on: March 10, 2015, 06:41:49 pm »
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The Piloted Sky Golem was 6/1 for reasons unrelated to the Ragnaros.

But if you used the Abusive Sargeant on a 6/1 PSG (which is what you said), the PSG would die before you could trade it with Ragnaros.  If he's immune/shielded, does the +2 attack still happen?  That's my confusion.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #457 on: March 10, 2015, 06:47:32 pm »
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The Piloted Sky Golem was 6/1 for reasons unrelated to the Ragnaros.

But if you used the Abusive Sargeant on a 6/1 PSG (which is what you said), the PSG would die before you could trade it with Ragnaros.  If he's immune/shielded, does the +2 attack still happen?  That's my confusion.

You're confusing Abusive Sergeant with Cruel Taskmaster.

And if it were Cruel Taskmaster, it gets the buff whether or not it takes the damage.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #458 on: March 10, 2015, 07:17:28 pm »
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The Piloted Sky Golem was 6/1 for reasons unrelated to the Ragnaros.

But if you used the Abusive Sargeant on a 6/1 PSG (which is what you said), the PSG would die before you could trade it with Ragnaros.  If he's immune/shielded, does the +2 attack still happen?  That's my confusion.

You're confusing Abusive Sergeant with Cruel Taskmaster.

And if it were Cruel Taskmaster, it gets the buff whether or not it takes the damage.
OH! I couldn't figure out why he was confused.

It's funny, Abusive Seargeant doesn't abuse his target.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #459 on: March 10, 2015, 07:19:22 pm »
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The Piloted Sky Golem was 6/1 for reasons unrelated to the Ragnaros.

But if you used the Abusive Sargeant on a 6/1 PSG (which is what you said), the PSG would die before you could trade it with Ragnaros.  If he's immune/shielded, does the +2 attack still happen?  That's my confusion.

You're confusing Abusive Sergeant with Cruel Taskmaster.

And if it were Cruel Taskmaster, it gets the buff whether or not it takes the damage.

Oh, duh.  That's for pointing that out.

OH! I couldn't figure out why he was confused.

It's funny, Abusive Seargeant doesn't abuse his target.

Yeah, I think that's why I mess that up.  Like, I think I always thought Abusive did the damage for buff thing.  Makes sense, doesn't it?
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #460 on: March 10, 2015, 07:22:34 pm »
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The Piloted Sky Golem was 6/1 for reasons unrelated to the Ragnaros.

But if you used the Abusive Sargeant on a 6/1 PSG (which is what you said), the PSG would die before you could trade it with Ragnaros.  If he's immune/shielded, does the +2 attack still happen?  That's my confusion.

You're confusing Abusive Sergeant with Cruel Taskmaster.

And if it were Cruel Taskmaster, it gets the buff whether or not it takes the damage.

Oh, duh.  That's for pointing that out.

OH! I couldn't figure out why he was confused.

It's funny, Abusive Seargeant doesn't abuse his target.

Yeah, I think that's why I mess that up.  Like, I think I always thought Abusive did the damage for buff thing.  Makes sense, doesn't it?
A lot of the flavor in Hearthstone is messed up because they want to reuse old card images and they start off with cards as one thing in alpha and switch them entirely by beta (like Warsong Commander would be more like a teacher at this point).
My most recent pet peeve is that Puddlestomper is a cheap vanilla creature with no skills but in his art it looks like he is summoning some powerful water magic.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #461 on: March 19, 2015, 01:26:02 pm »
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #462 on: March 19, 2015, 02:04:41 pm »
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Yep, Warrior ties Warlock for lowest win rate. I've said it before that Warrior is one of the worst, not average. It may be close, but Warrior is for sure at the bottom with Warlock.
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« Reply #463 on: March 19, 2015, 08:10:23 pm »
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Yep, Warrior ties Warlock for lowest win rate. I've said it before that Warrior is one of the worst, not average. It may be close, but Warrior is for sure at the bottom with Warlock.
It goes to show how arena balance hangs on threads, since at points in closed beta was Warrior was top 1 or top 3.

It's still the only class with the best card of Hearthstone and transitive best common/basic of hearthstone, and so offers maximum hilarity from single card stacking arena runs.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #464 on: March 19, 2015, 09:58:00 pm »
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It's still the only class with the best card of Hearthstone and transitive best common/basic of hearthstone, and so offers maximum hilarity from single card stacking arena runs.
I assume you're talking about Fiery War Axe here. But is it really the best class common/basic to stack in arena? I would not want to be a Warrior with 10 FWAs against a Mage with 10 Water Elementals, for example.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #465 on: March 20, 2015, 01:21:22 am »
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It's still the only class with the best card of Hearthstone and transitive best common/basic of hearthstone, and so offers maximum hilarity from single card stacking arena runs.
I assume you're talking about Fiery War Axe here. But is it really the best class common/basic to stack in arena? I would not want to be a Warrior with 10 FWAs against a Mage with 10 Water Elementals, for example.

Sure, but 10 Fiery War Axen is going to do better against the field than 10 Water Elementals.
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« Reply #466 on: March 20, 2015, 01:48:31 am »
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It's still the only class with the best card of Hearthstone and transitive best common/basic of hearthstone, and so offers maximum hilarity from single card stacking arena runs.
I assume you're talking about Fiery War Axe here. But is it really the best class common/basic to stack in arena? I would not want to be a Warrior with 10 FWAs against a Mage with 10 Water Elementals, for example.

Sure, but 10 Fiery War Axen is going to do better against the field than 10 Water Elementals.

Are you sure? One or two water elementals is tough enough, I can't imagine many decks being able to handle them every turn. It's one of the best arena minions.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #467 on: March 20, 2015, 02:52:58 am »
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Just won an arena game with 24 health and 12 armor as Hunter. Piloted Shredder -> Armorsmith -> Unleash the Hounds

It's still the only class with the best card of Hearthstone and transitive best common/basic of hearthstone, and so offers maximum hilarity from single card stacking arena runs.
I assume you're talking about Fiery War Axe here. But is it really the best class common/basic to stack in arena? I would not want to be a Warrior with 10 FWAs against a Mage with 10 Water Elementals, for example.

Sure, but 10 Fiery War Axen is going to do better against the field than 10 Water Elementals.

Are you sure? One or two water elementals is tough enough, I can't imagine many decks being able to handle them every turn. It's one of the best arena minions.
10 Naturalizes tho
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #468 on: March 20, 2015, 12:44:06 pm »
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It's still the only class with the best card of Hearthstone and transitive best common/basic of hearthstone, and so offers maximum hilarity from single card stacking arena runs.
I assume you're talking about Fiery War Axe here. But is it really the best class common/basic to stack in arena? I would not want to be a Warrior with 10 FWAs against a Mage with 10 Water Elementals, for example.
It's the best card in a vacuum, not the best card to stack.  It's about how hilarious it is, not about how good it is. "Oh hey, it's turn 2 again, I get winning board position again!"

I did 9-0 with a Fiery War Axe stack when I got 3 bloodsail corsairs to go with them, but Water Elemental stacks or Truesilver Stacks are probably better (but way less fun! Who wants to end games with all their mana crystals?!?)
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #469 on: March 20, 2015, 12:57:33 pm »
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Just won an arena game with 24 health and 12 armor as Hunter. Piloted Shredder -> Armorsmith -> Unleash the Hounds

It's still the only class with the best card of Hearthstone and transitive best common/basic of hearthstone, and so offers maximum hilarity from single card stacking arena runs.
I assume you're talking about Fiery War Axe here. But is it really the best class common/basic to stack in arena? I would not want to be a Warrior with 10 FWAs against a Mage with 10 Water Elementals, for example.

Sure, but 10 Fiery War Axen is going to do better against the field than 10 Water Elementals.

Are you sure? One or two water elementals is tough enough, I can't imagine many decks being able to handle them every turn. It's one of the best arena minions.
10 Naturalizes tho

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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #470 on: March 21, 2015, 05:19:30 pm »
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I just went 12-0: http://arenamastery.com/72Jv Forgot to enter the draft D: I had 2x Backstab, 2x Deadly Poison, 0x Eviscerate, 1x SI:7, 1x The Black Knight... and some other cards.

It was a pretty good Rogue deck, but to be honest I think I mostly just got lucky. I didn't get a single Flamestrike, Consecration, or Holy Nova played against me the entire run, none of my opponents games 8-10 played a card on turn 2, and my Black Knight got some crazy value in a couple close games.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #471 on: March 21, 2015, 07:43:39 pm »
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Weird
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #472 on: March 23, 2015, 11:39:09 am »
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Yep, Warrior ties Warlock for lowest win rate. I've said it before that Warrior is one of the worst, not average. It may be close, but Warrior is for sure at the bottom with Warlock.

Warrior definitely has the worst hero power for arena, and the class card quality has gone down from what it was. The new cards (Warbot, Warmaul) are terrible. And even Fiery War Axe has gotten worse due to more 4 health 3 drops, but I still can't imagine it's as bad as Warlock. Warlock has the second-worst arena hero power (assuming a strong tempo meta) and way worse card quality.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #473 on: March 23, 2015, 03:24:58 pm »
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You're failing to appreciate the girth of the gap between the 8th worst hero power and the 9th worst hero power.
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Re: Arena General Discussion
« Reply #474 on: March 23, 2015, 04:55:31 pm »
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I've won games with various classes simply by "out carding" my opponent. Warlock's hero power can win games simply by being able to have cards when other decks empty their hands. Warrior hero power does nothing at all, unless maybe you have 1 Shield Slam or something.
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