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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #650 on: October 11, 2015, 11:07:30 pm »
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Ridiculously good idea zog

What can I say. I know what's best :P

EDIT: or, you can just play arena. That's mostly all I've been playing, and even with murloc knight, that only gets ridiculous once every 2-3 runs.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #651 on: October 14, 2015, 04:45:18 am »
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Control Warrior mirrors are great: "I have to play a card here, so I'll play the weapon to deny my opponent the chance to play Harrison."
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« Reply #652 on: October 15, 2015, 12:51:00 pm »
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What archetypes will benefit form the removal of Patron Warrior the most?  People seem to mostly say Secradin, with the "best deck is gone, second best deck is best deck" line of thinking, but Secradin has a lot of patterns in it and narrowing the field allows other decks to tech against those patterns more.  I would expect an unpatterned deck, like midrange druid, to benefit more.  Midrange druid also gets to run BGH more without it whiffing on Patron Warrior, which is nice.  Fel Reaver gets caught in the crossfire and I feel like I have to expect Mechmage to take a hit, and that's disappointing for me and my favorite deck.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #653 on: October 15, 2015, 01:25:08 pm »
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I would think that control decks in general benefit when a strong OTK gets removed from the meta, and other decks with similar match-ups as Patron benefit when (some) people stop playing decks with good Patron match-ups. For the time being, I'm planning on maining Control Warrior.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #654 on: October 15, 2015, 03:05:38 pm »
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I would think that control decks in general benefit when a strong OTK gets removed from the meta, and other decks with similar match-ups as Patron benefit when (some) people stop playing decks with good Patron match-ups. For the time being, I'm planning on maining Control Warrior.
Control Warrior was statistically Patron Warrior's worst matchup.

Demonlock handlock, second worst.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #655 on: October 15, 2015, 04:17:06 pm »
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Consensus seems to be that Patron was doing a lot to hold Aggro in check, so we could see a new flood of Aggro decks alongside Dragon Priests to prey on them.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #656 on: October 21, 2015, 09:40:40 pm »
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Just got golden Warrior. My third golden hero.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #657 on: October 22, 2015, 05:26:00 pm »
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« Reply #658 on: October 22, 2015, 05:29:11 pm »
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Just got golden Warrior. My third golden hero.

I recently got my 2nd golden, Paladin.

Next to go is probably Warrior (~280, but I play that the most) or Rogue (~380, but needs to get a viable deck).
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« Reply #659 on: October 22, 2015, 06:41:31 pm »
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Meanwhile I only have one level 60 hero. My Mage is at 58 though.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #660 on: October 22, 2015, 06:47:55 pm »
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Play War of Omens and try to get a level 28 hero.  That'll show you.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #661 on: October 22, 2015, 06:51:13 pm »
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war of omens?

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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #662 on: October 22, 2015, 11:11:43 pm »
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Play War of Omens and try to get a level 28 hero.  That'll show you.

Oi. Get your scrub game outta the Hearthstone thread! Geeeeeezzzz!
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« Reply #663 on: October 23, 2015, 09:54:43 am »
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I would think that control decks in general benefit when a strong OTK gets removed from the meta, and other decks with similar match-ups as Patron benefit when (some) people stop playing decks with good Patron match-ups. For the time being, I'm planning on maining Control Warrior.
Control Warrior was statistically Patron Warrior's worst matchup.

Demonlock handlock, second worst.

CW has 60/40, i believe Demonlock had it better than that.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #664 on: October 23, 2015, 10:28:18 am »
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Play War of Omens and try to get a level 28 hero.  That'll show you.

Oi. Get your scrub game outta the Hearthstone thread! Geeeeeezzzz!
It's arguably more like Dominion than MakingFun, though.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #665 on: October 24, 2015, 01:56:16 pm »
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Whoa, Heisenberg, is that you? Nice job ;) YMYOSL
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #666 on: October 24, 2015, 02:25:59 pm »
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Whoa, Heisenberg, is that you? Nice job ;) YMYOSL

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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #667 on: October 24, 2015, 02:27:21 pm »
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Whoa, Heisenberg, is that you? Nice job ;) YMYOSL

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No doubt Kolento is really good, but he whines a lot about RNG when he should have just played better. I'm awful at Hearthstone and if I can find things like that, there have to be plenty of them.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #668 on: October 24, 2015, 03:16:27 pm »
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Whoa, Heisenberg, is that you? Nice job ;) YMYOSL

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No doubt Kolento is really good, but he whines a lot about RNG when he should have just played better. I'm awful at Hearthstone and if I can find things like that, there have to be plenty of them.

You make your own shuffle luck. Just figured it as I was reading your post :P should have guessed. I agree, but I've played enough hearthstone to know that if your draw is bad there is nothing you can do about. He drew rag, neptulon, boom, two 5 drops and not useful spells. I think what more applicable to say is that he's playing a weak deck against a strong one. It's not surprising he loses badly. Did he make his own luck? Kind of? But he could be playing control warrior and still draw terribly and that is luck. Just as long as he doesn't blame luck all the time it's fine :P I mean, you can't make your own Piloted Shredder luck :P
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #669 on: October 24, 2015, 05:51:28 pm »
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I decided to give Midrange a break and tried out the low curve Hybrid list Forsen used in the recent 24 hour laddering challenge (note that the Freezing Trap should be Explosive).  I win streaked from 9 to 6 and finally reached the chest goal of 5 just as I hit the gold cap.  (I accepted my "gatekeepers" rage friend request as it only seemed fair: they got suitably sweary after we negotiated the correct language in which to insult my lineage.)  I can highly recommend the list if you're looking to climb through that sort of range.  It was slowing down towards the end, but we do at least know that it's possible to use it to hit legend within 20 hours...
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #670 on: October 30, 2015, 05:55:05 pm »
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If you could have any Legendary for constructed play, what would it be?

I guess I'm looking for a top 10...I assume Boom is there.  Is Ysera a must have?  The new Warrior one?  Voljin?
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #671 on: October 30, 2015, 06:10:21 pm »
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If you could have any Legendary for constructed play, what would it be?

I guess I'm looking for a top 10...I assume Boom is there.  Is Ysera a must have?  The new Warrior one?  Voljin?

Boom and Sylvanas are probably the most important.
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Re: Constructed General Discussion
« Reply #672 on: October 30, 2015, 06:24:44 pm »
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Boom is crazy good.

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« Reply #673 on: October 30, 2015, 08:30:17 pm »
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If you could have any Legendary for constructed play, what would it be?

I guess I'm looking for a top 10...I assume Boom is there.  Is Ysera a must have?  The new Warrior one?  Voljin?

Boom. Sylvannas is good. Ysera is good. Voljin is not essential unless you play priest, and even then you can manage without him. Antonidas, Grommash, Tirion are all essential for their class, although since secret pally Tirion not as much. Jaraxxus is worth it too. I crafted Varian Wrynn, and never used him after testing him a bit. He's too slow for the fast decks. Alextrasa is good to have too.
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« Reply #674 on: November 01, 2015, 10:54:00 pm »
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I'm playing Control Hunter for some fun now. It's not too terrible. I'm running this list, that I came up with in a few minutes. I've beaten control Warrior, secret pally (that didnt play mysterious challenger), every aggro hunter I faced. Powershot is amazing against all these aggro decks that spread wide with low health minions.

x2 Arcane Shot
x2 Explosive Trap
x1 Lock and Load
x2 Quick Shot
x2 King's Elekk
x2 Steemwheedle Sniper
x2 Eaglehorn Bow
x2 Animal Companion
x1 Deadly Shot
x2 Kill Command
x2 Powershot
x1 Unleash the Hounds
x1 Refreshment Vendor
x2 Sludge Belcher
x2 Savannah Highmane
x1 Sylvannas Windrunner
x1 Dr. Boom
x1 Gahz'rilla
x1 Sneed's Old Shredder

The Refreshment Vendor used to be a Multi Shot, but it wasn't useful enough. It could use refining, but because there's so few decks running hard removal, besides control warrior and a few polymorphs, Gahz'rilla actually is decent. I've won two game by making him 48 attack. You win the jousts very often. I might take out 1 steemwheedle Sniper. They haven't been amazing, but I think they're still pretty essential. I picked Sneeds as my late game drop because it can take a lot of cards to kill, which is what I need against control, and 5 attack is all I need vs aggro.
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