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[werothegreat]

I just pulled Neptulon out of an Unstable Portal:

[werothegreat]

Just made it to rank 12 with my awesome Mage deck!

[EgorK]

I am surprised how Freeze Mage is good in current rank 3-4 meta. 16-8 during last week

[markusin]

I am surprised how Freeze Mage is good in current rank 3-4 meta. 16-8 during last week

I find there's less aggro heavy stuff like Zoolock these days. The slower decks just don't compete well if you get off a good Antonidas turn.

[KingZog3]

I am surprised how Freeze Mage is good in current rank 3-4 meta. 16-8 during last week

I find there's less aggro heavy stuff like Zoolock these days. The slower decks just don't compete well if you get off a good Antonidas turn.

I imagine it's good vs. Secret Pally. It's not super aggressive, and Doomsayer doesn't care about avenge or Noble Sac.

[Haddock]

Yesterday I hit legend for the first time ever! Running a midrange (no secret) paladin variant with two equalities cos that really shuts down demon handlock and is great against secret pally, patron and control warrior.
I'm so happy. I was at rank 1 with 5 stars a total of seven times before I won the necessary game!

Of course now im just screwing around with weird decks I dont know very well, and usually losing.

[KingZog3]

Legend rank is more fun to play than ranks 5-1. Everyone stops caring and you see lots of funny decks.

[werothegreat]

I just love that my Mage deck has a counter for essentially everything.  You dropped a Murloc Knight and flooded the board with minions?  Flamestrike.  Oh, you tried that again?  Here's the other Flamestrike.  Face Hunter?  Let me just drop these Mirror Images and kill every minion you put on the board.  I think the one weakness is Secret Hunter - it's just too aggressive, and deals too well with the few minions I throw on the board myself.  Everything else is just too weak to board clears.

My favorite part is that it's mostly just common cards - I haven't finished Naxx, so I don't have any Mad Scientists.  I don't have Doomsayers or Ice Block, so I can't run Freeze Mage.  I find Mech Mage distasteful (a scrub thing to say, I know, but whatever).  So, yeah.

[Drab Emordnilap]

I find Mech Mage distasteful (a scrub thing to say, I know, but whatever).  So, yeah.

Nah, a scrub thing to say would be "Mech Mage is cheap; anyone who plays it is a loser that smells." It's totally valid to express that you don't prefer an archetype or playstyle, or even express that you feel the game would be better/more fun for you if the game was different in a way that made Mech Mage not as good. But that's nowhere near "scrub".

[pingpongsam]

I am surprised how Freeze Mage is good in current rank 3-4 meta. 16-8 during last week

When I hear freeze mage I think Thalnos and Alex and figure it will be a long while before I can run that.

[KingZog3]

I am surprised how Freeze Mage is good in current rank 3-4 meta. 16-8 during last week

When I hear freeze mage I think Thalnos and Alex and figure it will be a long while before I can run that.

I collect dust at a ridiculous rate. All I can say is practice arena Also, how many packs do people open on average everyday? Because people always say how unlucky they are with packs, but I dont think its that. I open on average 1, possibly more than 1, everyday. Sometimes 3-4 if I do a lot of arena runs.

[pingpongsam]

Yes, I average 1 pack a day. Effectively ~60 dust a day. I am not fond of arena, though.

[chairs]

So I've been trying to abuse knife juggler to play ranked in the 20s while I finish getting basics for all classes.  here's my current decklist using Shaman - thoughts?

2 x Leper Gnome
2 x Shieldbearer
2 x Ancestral Spirit
2 x Echoing Ooze
2 x Haunted Creeper
2 x Knife Juggler
2 x Loot Hoarder
2 x Murloc Tidehunter
2 x Youthful Brewmaster
2 x Feral Spirit
2 x Demolisher
2 x Harvest Golem
1 x Imp Master
1 x Tuskarr Totemic
2 x Fen Creeper
1 x Kel'Thuzad
1 x Ragnaros the Firelord

I'd probably replace Tuskarr with another Imp Master if I could get there. Shieldbearers help me avoid my knife juggler trading early, but I'm open to suggestions in that slot (and really in any slot).

If I can make an all-neutral version of the decklist that's effective even if only at low ranks, that'd be sweet.

[werothegreat]

If you want an early Taunt, I'd switch to Warlock and slip Voidwalkers in that slot.  Warlock has plenty of Knife Juggler shenanigans - Imp-losion, Imp Gang Boss, Dreadsteed - they also have a lot of cheaper minions, just with drawbacks.

[Awaclus]

So I've been trying to abuse knife juggler to play ranked in the 20s while I finish getting basics for all classes.  here's my current decklist using Shaman - thoughts?

2 x Leper Gnome
2 x Shieldbearer
2 x Ancestral Spirit
2 x Echoing Ooze
2 x Haunted Creeper
2 x Knife Juggler
2 x Loot Hoarder
2 x Murloc Tidehunter
2 x Youthful Brewmaster
2 x Feral Spirit
2 x Demolisher
2 x Harvest Golem
1 x Imp Master
1 x Tuskarr Totemic
2 x Fen Creeper
1 x Kel'Thuzad
1 x Ragnaros the Firelord

I'd probably replace Tuskarr with another Imp Master if I could get there. Shieldbearers help me avoid my knife juggler trading early, but I'm open to suggestions in that slot (and really in any slot).

If I can make an all-neutral version of the decklist that's effective even if only at low ranks, that'd be sweet.

You should run Sludge Belcher over Fen Creeper for sure.

Instead of Shieldbearer, I think you should have something that does more than just slow your opponent down. Cheap removal would be great, but a lot of those cards are class basics, unfortunately. Stuff like Elven Archer or Argent Squire will help against 2/1s at least.

Demolisher isn't very good, it's super easy to remove. You could run a minion with better stats, or an ability that actually does something before it gets removed, like Spider Tank, Wolfrider, Scarlet Crusader, Shattered Sun Cleric, etc.

[ashersky]

So I've been trying to abuse knife juggler to play ranked in the 20s while I finish getting basics for all classes.  here's my current decklist using Shaman - thoughts?

2 x Leper Gnome
2 x Shieldbearer
2 x Ancestral Spirit
2 x Echoing Ooze
2 x Haunted Creeper
2 x Knife Juggler
2 x Loot Hoarder
2 x Murloc Tidehunter
2 x Youthful Brewmaster
2 x Feral Spirit
2 x Demolisher
2 x Harvest Golem
1 x Imp Master
1 x Tuskarr Totemic
2 x Fen Creeper
1 x Kel'Thuzad
1 x Ragnaros the Firelord

I'd probably replace Tuskarr with another Imp Master if I could get there. Shieldbearers help me avoid my knife juggler trading early, but I'm open to suggestions in that slot (and really in any slot).

If I can make an all-neutral version of the decklist that's effective even if only at low ranks, that'd be sweet.

You could do Shaman Murlock if you want to have cheap drops with synergy that like Knife Juggler.  Plus Neptulon.

[chairs]

So I've been trying to abuse knife juggler to play ranked in the 20s while I finish getting basics for all classes.  here's my current decklist using Shaman - thoughts?

2 x Leper Gnome
2 x Shieldbearer
2 x Ancestral Spirit
2 x Echoing Ooze
2 x Haunted Creeper
2 x Knife Juggler
2 x Loot Hoarder
2 x Murloc Tidehunter
2 x Youthful Brewmaster
2 x Feral Spirit
2 x Demolisher
2 x Harvest Golem
1 x Imp Master
1 x Tuskarr Totemic
2 x Fen Creeper
1 x Kel'Thuzad
1 x Ragnaros the Firelord

I'd probably replace Tuskarr with another Imp Master if I could get there. Shieldbearers help me avoid my knife juggler trading early, but I'm open to suggestions in that slot (and really in any slot).

If I can make an all-neutral version of the decklist that's effective even if only at low ranks, that'd be sweet.

You should run Sludge Belcher over Fen Creeper for sure.

Instead of Shieldbearer, I think you should have something that does more than just slow your opponent down. Cheap removal would be great, but a lot of those cards are class basics, unfortunately. Stuff like Elven Archer or Argent Squire will help against 2/1s at least.

Demolisher isn't very good, it's super easy to remove. You could run a minion with better stats, or an ability that actually does something before it gets removed, like Spider Tank, Wolfrider, Scarlet Crusader, Shattered Sun Cleric, etc.

So I know Demolisher is terrible, but it's ironically what won me my last game, staying on the board for 5 turns.

[Awaclus]

So I know Demolisher is terrible, but it's ironically what won me my last game, staying on the board for 5 turns.

If you were in a position where your Demolisher could survive for 5 turns, you already won the game thanks to something else.

[Jorbles]

Yeah, Demolisher doesn't even have a bunch of good synergies that might make you want to run it (Mech stuff, a zillion taunts or Hobgoblin). I also wonder why you're running Ooze without any buffers and just one Tuskar. It looks like you're trying to flood the board (Ooze, Creeper, Feral, Harvest, Imp Master, Kel, Tuskar, Tidehunter, plus Youthful Brewmasters to bounce things) and overwhelm your opponent but you don't have any Bloodlust? That's what Shamans do when they overrun the board, they cast Bloodlust and then win because it gives them +9/+12/+15 damage all at once.

Also if you have Sludge Belchers they are better than Fen Creepers, but if you don't Fen is okay though I'd probably prefer Senjins to get them out a turn earlier.

[popsofctown]

There was a time back in closed beta where Demolisher was a legit card.  It was a strange time.

[Awaclus]

Also if you have Sludge Belchers they are better than Fen Creepers, but if you don't Fen is okay though I'd probably prefer Senjins to get them out a turn earlier.

Is it possible to have Kel'Thuzad but no Belchers?

[Jorbles]

Also if you have Sludge Belchers they are better than Fen Creepers, but if you don't Fen is okay though I'd probably prefer Senjins to get them out a turn earlier.

Is it possible to have Kel'Thuzad but no Belchers?

Good point, Kel is the second last card you unlock (Avenge is the last), so you definitely have Belchers. Use Belchers, they are the best 5 mana taunt card.

[popsofctown]

(neutral)

[chairs]

Yeah, Demolisher doesn't even have a bunch of good synergies that might make you want to run it (Mech stuff, a zillion taunts or Hobgoblin). I also wonder why you're running Ooze without any buffers and just one Tuskar. It looks like you're trying to flood the board (Ooze, Creeper, Feral, Harvest, Imp Master, Kel, Tuskar, Tidehunter, plus Youthful Brewmasters to bounce things) and overwhelm your opponent but you don't have any Bloodlust? That's what Shamans do when they overrun the board, they cast Bloodlust and then win because it gives them +9/+12/+15 damage all at once.

Also if you have Sludge Belchers they are better than Fen Creepers, but if you don't Fen is okay though I'd probably prefer Senjins to get them out a turn earlier.

Mostly I was trying to do funny things with knife juggler.

My goal is to build a completely neutral deck - it's not supposed to be legend tier, this is just something I can build for quests and levelling heros to 10.

That being said, I have Belchers and I'll definitely throw them in. I'm honestly open to completely retooling the deck, but I have no good mechanism to share my current collection so you guys can give me good deck-building advice.

[Jorbles]

(neutral)

Fair point, Druid of the Claw are slightly better than them, but since we're talking Shaman. Sludge Belchers ftw.