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IsoHearth I: Nkirbit Wins!
« on: June 17, 2014, 06:32:16 pm »
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Isohearth I:

bkirbit #1439
Nick #11795
KirbyHero#1343
mikohoy#1464


This thread is to note your participation in the upcoming f.ds Hearthstone Tournament.  Format and rules to come.

Please post in this thread in the following format:

Username#number, Server, Last Season's Final Ranking, Timezone

Example:  ashersky#1470, North America, 17, UTC+10

Signed Up:

North America
ashersky#1470, 17 (UTC+10)
theory#1157, 10 (UTC-4 / UTC-5)
SilentStrike#1453, 20 (UTC-8)
Archvile#1802, 20 (UTC-4 / UTC-5)
blueblimp#1516, 5, (PDT)
michaeljb#1812, 20 (UTC-6)
mpsprs#1749, 20 (UTC-4)
shraeye#1248, 18 (UTC-5)
HiddenTroll#11133, 17 (UTC-8)
Titandrake#1456, 17 (UTC-7)
AHoppy #1799, 20, UTC -4

EU
KingZog#1700, 16 (UTC-5)
EgorK#2917, 13 (UTC+4)
Grujah#2516, 9 (GMT+1/2)
PitrPicko#2221, EU, +-16, UTC+2
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2014, 06:37:19 pm »
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KingZog#1700, Connected to Europe, 16? I think, UTC-5 (Located in Montreal, Canada)

EDIT: I'm in the NA sever
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2014, 06:38:20 pm »
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theory#1157, North America, I forget (10?), EDT (UTC-4 / UTC-5)
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2014, 07:27:26 pm »
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SilentStrike#1453, Connected to Americas, Didn't play last season (have gone as high as 18 in this one), UTC-8

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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 07:46:14 pm »
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KingZog#1700, Murica, rank 37, GMT -5
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2014, 08:17:55 pm »
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Archvile#1802, North America, <no previous ranking>, EDT (UTC-4 / UTC-5)
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2014, 10:46:26 pm »
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blueblimp#1516, North America, rank 5, PDT

(The rank is meaningless because I got it by netdecking miracle rogue.)

KingZog#1700, Murica, rank 37, GMT -5
KingZog, really? :P And is that legend rank 37 or rank 3-7?
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2014, 11:38:29 pm »
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(The rank is meaningless because I got it by netdecking miracle rogue.)

That's not how rank works? That's like saying "I was level 30 on Isotropic but it doesn't count because I read online how good Goons and Chapel are."
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2014, 06:55:06 am »
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EgorK#2917, Europe, ~13, UTC+4 (through our goverment is thinking about switching to +3)
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2014, 09:10:56 am »
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KingZog#1700, Murica, rank 37, GMT -5
KingZog, really? :P And is that legend rank 37 or rank 3-7?
Looks like WanderingWinder forgot to switch accounts.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2014, 10:05:55 am »
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KingZog#1700, Murica, rank 37, GMT -5
KingZog, really? :P And is that legend rank 37 or rank 3-7?
Looks like WanderingWinder forgot to switch accounts.

I don't remember posting this. I must have many personalities.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2014, 12:30:46 pm »
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I just started Hearthstone this morning, I'm possibly interested in this but don't know how long it will take me to get up to speed, or if I'll have the time to participate. How long will signups be open for this?
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2014, 12:42:54 pm »
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You should join!
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2014, 12:44:59 pm »
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I just started Hearthstone this morning, I'm possibly interested in this but don't know how long it will take me to get up to speed, or if I'll have the time to participate. How long will signups be open for this?

Don't join to win. Joining will make you learn much faster as you'll be playing advanced people, even if we have deck limitations.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2014, 01:35:45 pm »
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Your Persuasion was successful! I'm in.

michaeljb#???, North America (I assume), (what are these seasons you speak of), UTC-6

edit: once I figure out the number thing I'll post in the ID thread
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2014, 01:45:26 pm »
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Your Persuasion was successful! I'm in.

michaeljb#???, North America (I assume), (what are these seasons you speak of), UTC-6

You number is important. Click where is says you're online/busy to see it. The seasons are each month. After a month, you ranking goes back down and people who were at least rank 20 get a new card back.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2014, 01:46:49 pm »
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mpsprs#1749, NA, 20, UTC-4

I expect I'll be doing a hefty amount of learning.

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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2014, 02:12:54 pm »
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Your Persuasion was successful! I'm in.

michaeljb#???, North America (I assume), (what are these seasons you speak of), UTC-6

You number is important. Click where is says you're online/busy to see it. The seasons are each month. After a month, you ranking goes back down and people who were at least rank 20 get a new card back.

I knew it was important, I'm just posting in class right now and didn't see my number before class. I'll get it tonight.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2014, 02:39:38 pm »
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If you literally just installed this morning and haven't played ranked yet, you probably won't have a rank :-)
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2014, 06:42:00 pm »
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shraeye#1248, North America, 18?, UTC-5
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2014, 07:22:27 pm »
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HiddenTroll#11133, North America, 17?, Pacific (UTC-8)

I'll edit in my # number when I get the chance. (As to why I'm called HiddenTroll it was just the default one picked for me by Blizzard, I thought when the beta was over they'd get me to make a new account which I'd pick a name I like using for, woops)
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2014, 07:27:07 pm »
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I think you can choose to change it on their website?

Grujah#2516, EU, 9?, GMT+1 (or +2, daylight saving crap)
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2014, 09:29:03 pm »
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If you literally just installed this morning and haven't played ranked yet, you probably won't have a rank :-)

I figured as much, but I was also interested in more info on the seasons :)
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2014, 10:56:19 pm »
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I've updated the first post with sign-ups so far.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2014, 11:27:11 pm »
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I've updated the first post with sign-ups so far.

I'm not signed up twice. Only my post is real.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2014, 01:04:02 pm »
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Bump for editing in my #.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2014, 01:30:31 am »
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Bump for editing in my #.

You have a 5 digit number?
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2014, 01:31:09 am »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2014, 05:06:42 am »
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Looks like I have to sign up to make the numbers odd. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

(Titandrake#1456, NA, 17 (may not be accurate due to arena focus), UTC-7)
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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2014, 09:45:50 am »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

Meh, you guys play w/o me.
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« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2014, 09:46:34 am »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

I lose my cards on NA server right? Can't I switch my account and then switch it back? I could make a new one. But I don't understand why because you can still play people on your friends list no matter what server they are on.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2014, 09:48:59 am »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

Meh, you guys play w/o me.

Double post. But yeah I'm not sure this is very exciting. Just commons is boring, since there really are very few possibilities. I'll play with dust limits and stuff, but just commons is weird. I mean, just opening a couple packs gives you enough rares to live with a dust limit, and chances are you got an epic card.
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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2014, 10:52:21 am »
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It's a mix of a hassle of actually going through new account things + not that attracted to the format.

Are you sure you can play people on other servers? cuz I wasn't able to add them?
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2014, 12:58:41 pm »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

I lose my cards on NA server right? Can't I switch my account and then switch it back? I could make a new one. But I don't understand why because you can still play people on your friends list no matter what server they are on.

I believe you have to make an entirely new B.Net account to use the NA server.  New email address, etc., and pretend you live in NA.  Just learn to swear a lot and eat plenty of fast food and you can totally pass.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2014, 03:24:52 pm »
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From the BNet launcher thingie, you can actually chose wich server to play on. You card collection and your friends list doesn't carry over. So basically the hassle you have to go through is getting through the tutorial + grinding classes and getting common cards. But you can't play with the cards you've acquired. I guess if someone on either server with a lot of cards and trust is willing to lend their account to other players from here, it could be doable that way. But I'm not sure I would want to do that myself.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2014, 03:38:53 pm »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

I lose my cards on NA server right? Can't I switch my account and then switch it back? I could make a new one. But I don't understand why because you can still play people on your friends list no matter what server they are on.

I believe you have to make an entirely new B.Net account to use the NA server.  New email address, etc., and pretend you live in NA.  Just learn to swear a lot and eat plenty of fast food and you can totally pass.

But I live in NA. It put me on the Euro server without me choosing. I put that I'm in NA but it put me on that server anyway. And yes I have added people from both servers. However, I uninstalled an reinstalled Battle.net (for other computer reasons) and now my friends list in game is not the same as my list out of game. However a few of the people are on both. Egork is on both lists, but Watno and others are not. Try adding people when you're in the game, not on your list out of the game.

Either way, I've played Pops (Kirby Hero), markusin, theory as well as people on the EU server. So I know that you can, just not sure what's up with the different lists. And my cards were kept, so I'm guessing I was always on the EU server.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2014, 02:15:09 am »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

I lose my cards on NA server right? Can't I switch my account and then switch it back? I could make a new one. But I don't understand why because you can still play people on your friends list no matter what server they are on.

I believe you have to make an entirely new B.Net account to use the NA server.  New email address, etc., and pretend you live in NA.  Just learn to swear a lot and eat plenty of fast food and you can totally pass.

But I live in NA. It put me on the Euro server without me choosing. I put that I'm in NA but it put me on that server anyway. And yes I have added people from both servers. However, I uninstalled an reinstalled Battle.net (for other computer reasons) and now my friends list in game is not the same as my list out of game. However a few of the people are on both. Egork is on both lists, but Watno and others are not. Try adding people when you're in the game, not on your list out of the game.

Either way, I've played Pops (Kirby Hero), markusin, theory as well as people on the EU server. So I know that you can, just not sure what's up with the different lists. And my cards were kept, so I'm guessing I was always on the EU server.

I am quite sure you are on US server because you are on my friend list on NA and not on EU
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2014, 01:08:29 pm »
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For the record, I popped into the EU server today (chose EU through the Battlenet launcher), and added Egork and Watno. Do not let that confuse people further. Of course, none of my stuff from the NA server transferred to the EU server, and I'd have to go through the tutorial in the EU server before I can do anything.

It might be fun to play of the EU server sometimes. More quests for more Gold for more Arena practice.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2014, 02:05:20 pm »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

I lose my cards on NA server right? Can't I switch my account and then switch it back? I could make a new one. But I don't understand why because you can still play people on your friends list no matter what server they are on.

I believe you have to make an entirely new B.Net account to use the NA server.  New email address, etc., and pretend you live in NA.  Just learn to swear a lot and eat plenty of fast food and you can totally pass.

But I live in NA. It put me on the Euro server without me choosing. I put that I'm in NA but it put me on that server anyway. And yes I have added people from both servers. However, I uninstalled an reinstalled Battle.net (for other computer reasons) and now my friends list in game is not the same as my list out of game. However a few of the people are on both. Egork is on both lists, but Watno and others are not. Try adding people when you're in the game, not on your list out of the game.

Either way, I've played Pops (Kirby Hero), markusin, theory as well as people on the EU server. So I know that you can, just not sure what's up with the different lists. And my cards were kept, so I'm guessing I was always on the EU server.

I am quite sure you are on US server because you are on my friend list on NA and not on EU

Over my play button it says region/account and I have "Americas," but when I click my name above where it says whether I'm online/busy./away it says Connected to: Europe. that's why I'm confused.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2014, 10:56:07 pm »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

I lose my cards on NA server right? Can't I switch my account and then switch it back? I could make a new one. But I don't understand why because you can still play people on your friends list no matter what server they are on.

I believe you have to make an entirely new B.Net account to use the NA server.  New email address, etc., and pretend you live in NA.  Just learn to swear a lot and eat plenty of fast food and you can totally pass.

But I live in NA. It put me on the Euro server without me choosing. I put that I'm in NA but it put me on that server anyway. And yes I have added people from both servers. However, I uninstalled an reinstalled Battle.net (for other computer reasons) and now my friends list in game is not the same as my list out of game. However a few of the people are on both. Egork is on both lists, but Watno and others are not. Try adding people when you're in the game, not on your list out of the game.

Either way, I've played Pops (Kirby Hero), markusin, theory as well as people on the EU server. So I know that you can, just not sure what's up with the different lists. And my cards were kept, so I'm guessing I was always on the EU server.

I am quite sure you are on US server because you are on my friend list on NA and not on EU

Over my play button it says region/account and I have "Americas," but when I click my name above where it says whether I'm online/busy./away it says Connected to: Europe. that's why I'm confused.

You connected to Europe via Battle.net client. It do not bear any significance to which server you connect when play
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« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2014, 11:14:10 pm »
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We're at a grand total of 12 (9 NA and 3 EU).  Were the EU folks willing to make NA accounts?

I think we'd necessarily have to do commons + decks to be fair.

I lose my cards on NA server right? Can't I switch my account and then switch it back? I could make a new one. But I don't understand why because you can still play people on your friends list no matter what server they are on.

I believe you have to make an entirely new B.Net account to use the NA server.  New email address, etc., and pretend you live in NA.  Just learn to swear a lot and eat plenty of fast food and you can totally pass.

But I live in NA. It put me on the Euro server without me choosing. I put that I'm in NA but it put me on that server anyway. And yes I have added people from both servers. However, I uninstalled an reinstalled Battle.net (for other computer reasons) and now my friends list in game is not the same as my list out of game. However a few of the people are on both. Egork is on both lists, but Watno and others are not. Try adding people when you're in the game, not on your list out of the game.

Either way, I've played Pops (Kirby Hero), markusin, theory as well as people on the EU server. So I know that you can, just not sure what's up with the different lists. And my cards were kept, so I'm guessing I was always on the EU server.

I am quite sure you are on US server because you are on my friend list on NA and not on EU

Over my play button it says region/account and I have "Americas," but when I click my name above where it says whether I'm online/busy./away it says Connected to: Europe. that's why I'm confused.

You connected to Europe via Battle.net client. It do not bear any significance to which server you connect when play

I see. Then I'm on the NA server. That makes more sense. How do I change what my client connects to? It can't find it in setting or anything.
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« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2014, 06:16:37 pm »
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2014, 06:48:03 pm »
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On second thought, I think I'll back out of this. Not sure I'll have the time for this + Dominion League, and Dominion takes precedence.
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« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2014, 05:23:46 am »
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On second thought, I think I'll back out of this. Not sure I'll have the time for this + Dominion League, and Dominion takes precedence.

Unfortunately, I'm going to say the same. I definitely want to keep playing in the Dominion League, plus I'm taking a summer class to finish up my degree so I don't want to have too many commitments. Maybe next time.
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« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2014, 10:24:16 am »
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I'm not on the EU server, I'm on the NA server. Should be changed in the OP.
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« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2014, 12:31:46 pm »
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If these signups are still open I'm definitely interested. I still don't have a ton of cards, but I think it will be fun.

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« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2014, 05:48:30 pm »
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so .... this happening?
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« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2014, 05:50:31 pm »
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On second thought, I think I'll back out of this. Not sure I'll have the time for this + Dominion League, and Dominion takes precedence.

Unfortunately, I'm going to say the same. I definitely want to keep playing in the Dominion League, plus I'm taking a summer class to finish up my degree so I don't want to have too many commitments. Maybe next time.
I'll probably have to pass on this one as well. I haven't had time to play Hearthstone in quite a while and have a lot of other stuff going on. Maybe next time.

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« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2014, 07:04:33 pm »
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so .... this happening?

Not sure we have enough players, unless we want a small thing?  I can put a bracket together.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2014, 09:37:54 pm »
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So...we have 9 on NA and 4 on EU.

I just don't see the value in putting together a tourney.  But if you want, EU could do:

Grujah vs. KingZog and Egor vs. Pitr, winners play for title.

We could do something similar in NA.

Or round robin, where we all play each other?
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« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2014, 10:02:14 pm »
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(Speaking for NA) I'm fine with a really small round-robin tourney.  If all else, it's good practice and it will be fun playing with people I "know".  I played with Shraeye and Kingzog in the past week and it was a lot of fun.  I don't think tournaments have to be on the scale of Isodom/gokodom/dominion league

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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2014, 03:12:12 am »
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Again, if it's soulbound + some lower dust value, I don't see why the EU people shouldn't be able to play on the NA servers. I would be down for that.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2014, 12:52:20 pm »
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« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2014, 01:15:21 pm »
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2014, 12:05:56 pm »
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Bump.

Was the reason this stalled out due to not being able to find an agreeable format? I'd definitely love to have some sort of semi-regular format where I get to play against other F.DS users, whether that takes the shape of a league or a tournament.

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« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2014, 12:49:41 pm »
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2014, 05:15:46 pm »
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Bump.

Was the reason this stalled out due to not being able to find an agreeable format? I'd definitely love to have some sort of semi-regular format where I get to play against other F.DS users, whether that takes the shape of a league or a tournament.

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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2014, 05:16:56 am »
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Correct.

I mean, at this point free-for-all makes the most sense, right?

Round robin?
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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2014, 09:29:50 am »
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Correct.

I mean, at this point free-for-all makes the most sense, right?

Round robin?

1 deck each? Or 3 games with the same deck? Or 3 different decks?
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« Reply #60 on: November 15, 2014, 10:34:04 am »
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Correct.

I mean, at this point free-for-all makes the most sense, right?

Round robin?

1 deck each? Or 3 games with the same deck? Or 3 different decks?

I would say 4 decks with bans and bo5. Now, I do not have enough cards on US unfortunately
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« Reply #61 on: November 15, 2014, 01:11:26 pm »
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Correct.

I mean, at this point free-for-all makes the most sense, right?

Round robin?

1 deck each? Or 3 games with the same deck? Or 3 different decks?

I would say 4 decks with bans and bo5. Now, I do not have enough cards on US unfortunately

I don't have enough on Europe :P
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« Reply #62 on: November 15, 2014, 01:11:44 pm »
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I mean, at this point free-for-all makes the most sense, right?

It always did. :P
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2014, 03:31:17 pm »
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Can decks be altered mid-tourney?  Or you submit decklists?
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« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2014, 05:29:35 pm »
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Can decks be altered mid-tourney?  Or you submit decklists?

It depends on length. I think anything league/long tourney style (i. e. not single day) shoud allow to change decks between matches
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2015, 04:16:14 pm »
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3 out of 5, bring 3 pre-listed decks, winning decks swap out?

I'm well-placed to do this next week, actually.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2015, 04:36:13 pm »
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3 out of 5, bring 3 pre-listed decks, winning decks swap out?

I'm well-placed to do this next week, actually.
The world championships format is actually a little different, if that's what you had in mind, because the loser can optionally swap decks also. Using the wc format sounds fine, but I'd just say so and link to the rules to prevent confusion.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2015, 04:46:40 pm »
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Match format:
  • All matches will be best-of-5. The first player to win 3 games within the match is considered the winner of the match and advances.
  • Each player must submit decklists from three unique classes prior to each stage of the event. Players may submit new decks prior to each stage of the event.
  • A player must win one game with each of his three decks to win the match.
  • When a player wins a game, the deck used by the winning player cannot be used for the remainder of the match.
  • The losing player can keep the same deck used or switch to a different one of their choice.
  • Players will be told what classes their opponent has available, but they won’t know which class is picked until both players have picked.

The only change I'd suggest for IsoHearth is to limit this to 3 decks for the entire tournament, as it'll be smaller and with less organizers.
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« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2015, 06:25:04 pm »
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i'd rather copy the championships rules for practice, even if they're not superior
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« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2015, 06:38:42 pm »
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i'd rather copy the championships rules for practice, even if they're not superior

I think those are the championships rules...did I copy the wrong ones?
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« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2015, 10:05:58 pm »
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i'd rather copy the championships rules for practice, even if they're not superior

I think those are the championships rules...did I copy the wrong ones?
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2015, 11:01:41 pm »
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Okay...

Please reconfirm here by posting newly your NA account name that you want to join.  For simplicity's sake, and to get something off the ground, we'll play single-elimination until we get a final four, with the winners playing for 1st/2nd and the losers playing for 3rd.

The rules will be those posted above -- but basically, first to three wins, must win with three different decks (once a deck wins, it is ineligible for use in that round).  Deck changes allowed between games for either side.

All decks must be submitted prior to tournament start -- exactly three decks from three unique classes required.

One question -- are decklists public before games are played?  I'm guessing not.

Deadline to sign up is Friday, decklists due Saturday, tournament starts Sunday.
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« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2015, 01:50:54 am »
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Is this going to all be in 1 day? Or will we arrange a time to play the games?
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« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2015, 02:31:48 am »
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Is this going to all be in 1 day? Or will we arrange a time to play the games?

Arrange times during next week.
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« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2015, 12:03:00 pm »
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I'm in, bkirbit #1439.

we need three decks for this?
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« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2015, 12:06:13 pm »
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Nick #11795
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« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2015, 12:45:45 pm »
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« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2015, 03:15:27 pm »
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I'm in, bkirbit #1439.

we need three decks for this?

Yes, 3 decks, 3 classes.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2015, 10:52:59 pm »
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Signed up:

KingZog3#1700
bkirbit #1439
Nick #11795
KirbyHero#1343

Remember, sign ups close Friday, decks need to be PMed to me by Saturday.  I'll post match ups on Sunday.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2015, 11:08:18 pm »
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I think I won't have time or energy for this. Sorry, but it's really not convenient for me right now. I think I need to opt out.
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« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2015, 11:41:01 pm »
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If we don't have many people (6 or less), I think we should do a round robin.
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« Reply #81 on: February 04, 2015, 01:13:19 am »
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If this is one week later, not next week, I can probably play.
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« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2015, 11:57:53 am »
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #83 on: February 08, 2015, 02:42:15 am »
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Final tally:

bkirbit #1439
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #84 on: February 08, 2015, 02:46:59 am »
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I need three decklists from three players, still.

With only four players, we can go round robin.

Round 1:

Player 1 vs. Player 2
Player 4 vs. Player 3

Round 2:

Player 1 vs. Player 4
Player 3 vs. Player 2

Round 3:

Player 1 vs. Player 3
Player 2 vs. Player 4

Winners get 1 point, top two point getters play a final?
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #85 on: February 08, 2015, 11:28:11 am »
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I think it would be unfair to have someone at 3-0 and someone at 2-1 play a winner takes all final -- I think if anything, we should do an advantaged final, that way you need two losses to get eliminated from the tournament.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #86 on: February 08, 2015, 02:14:04 pm »
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If someone goes 3-0 in the round robin, they should just win the event, right?

I'll work on decklists and get them to you by the end of the day, Ash.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #87 on: February 08, 2015, 03:07:06 pm »
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I would propose just double elemination. Round robin do not really work in Hearthstone it seems
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #88 on: February 08, 2015, 04:45:42 pm »
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Uh.  Round Robin vs. Double Elim doesn't really have to do with the game being played in terms of accuracy of the winner.  You'll have to expound if you want to explain what you mean here.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #89 on: February 08, 2015, 05:38:48 pm »
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Uh.  Round Robin vs. Double Elim doesn't really have to do with the game being played in terms of accuracy of the winner.  You'll have to expound if you want to explain what you mean here.

In football and similar games there are neat tie-breakers and stuff. In HS using match scores as tiebreaks seems frowned upon. Actually if it would be up to me I'll make group stages in top football tournaments double elemination as well
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2015, 05:47:18 pm »
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Double elim is never more accurate than round robin or swiss, even if you use a d20 for tiebreakers.  Tiebreaker methods that don't make sense look nasty and and make the tournament seem less fair, but are actually more fair than double elims arbitrary way of pairing players for matchups and fewer games played overall.

It's an awful a lot like whether Treasure Map or King's Court is more random.  One of them is just more in your face about it.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2015, 06:11:36 pm »
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Double elim is never more accurate than round robin or swiss, even if you use a d20 for tiebreakers.  Tiebreaker methods that don't make sense look nasty and and make the tournament seem less fair, but are actually more fair than double elims arbitrary way of pairing players for matchups and fewer games played overall.

It's an awful a lot like whether Treasure Map or King's Court is more random.  One of them is just more in your face about it.

I do not believe what you are say is relevant for 4 player groups
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2015, 06:27:09 pm »
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^consider 4 players called rock, paper, scissors, and trash. Trash loses to everything, and the rest is standard RPS. Whoever plays vs Trash first will win. Draw out the bracket. He will never have to face the deck that beats him, since that deck will be stuck in the losers bracket with his best matchup nowhere in sight.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #93 on: February 08, 2015, 06:27:47 pm »
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Okay cool. I'm going to try streaming my games, if that's alright with everyone in the tournament.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #94 on: February 08, 2015, 06:56:30 pm »
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Supose more probable win distribution. Here's results for both round robin and double elimination (calculated, not simulated):

Win probabilities
1   0.0   0.6   0.7   0.8
2   0.4   0.0   0.6   0.7
3   0.3   0.4   0.0   0.6
4   0.2   0.3   0.4   0.0
Round robin
Advance
1 0.7651199999999999
2 0.59824
3 0.40175999999999995
4 0.23488
Win
1 0.47312
2 0.28424
3 0.16176000000000004
4 0.08088
Double elimination
Advance
1 0.7858400000000001
2 0.6075466666666668
3 0.39245333333333327
4 0.21416000000000004
Win
1 0.5531754666666664
2 0.2763130666666666
3 0.1245696
4 0.04594186666666668

So both if we need to determine 2 advances and if we need to determine single winner double elimination is better. In case you provided there is no difference between double elimination and round robin - only the fact that however was paired with trash was decided by draw and not by skill, but supposedly skills are same
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #95 on: February 08, 2015, 07:03:38 pm »
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #96 on: February 08, 2015, 07:17:53 pm »
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I love how mathy everyone is in a Dominion environment.  You try to explain this stuff to fighting game players, they're like, "Huh, what, double elim the most hype, wanna pump some iron after grand finals?"
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Re: IsoHearth I: Signup Thread
« Reply #97 on: February 09, 2015, 03:10:50 am »
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Final tally:

bkirbit #1439
Nick #11795
KirbyHero#1343
mikohoy#1464

Player numbers:

bkirbit is player 1
Nick is player 2
KirbyHero is player 4
mikohoy is player 3

Round 1:

Player 1 vs. Player 2
Player 4 vs. Player 3

Round 2:

Player 1 vs. Player 4
Player 3 vs. Player 2

Round 3:

Player 1 vs. Player 3
Player 2 vs. Player 4

Here are the rounds -- please post results as "Round 1, Match 1" and a final game tally (i.e., 3-0, 1-2, etc.)
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2015, 12:17:00 pm »
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Supose more probable win distribution. Here's results for both round robin and double elimination (calculated, not simulated):

Win probabilities
1   0.0   0.6   0.7   0.8
2   0.4   0.0   0.6   0.7
3   0.3   0.4   0.0   0.6
4   0.2   0.3   0.4   0.0
Round robin
Advance
1 0.7651199999999999
2 0.59824
3 0.40175999999999995
4 0.23488
Win
1 0.47312
2 0.28424
3 0.16176000000000004
4 0.08088
Double elimination
Advance
1 0.7858400000000001
2 0.6075466666666668
3 0.39245333333333327
4 0.21416000000000004
Win
1 0.5531754666666664
2 0.2763130666666666
3 0.1245696
4 0.04594186666666668

So both if we need to determine 2 advances and if we need to determine single winner double elimination is better. In case you provided there is no difference between double elimination and round robin - only the fact that however was paired with trash was decided by draw and not by skill, but supposedly skills are same

I'm not sure how you judge that double elimination is better based on that. The winner distribution is lower entropy because more games are played, and by averaging over all potential initial brackets you avoided the major issue which is the impact of the initial matchup. The problem is that the result depends too much on who plays whom first.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #99 on: February 09, 2015, 12:18:10 pm »
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Round 1 Match 2 0-3
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #100 on: February 09, 2015, 12:18:48 pm »
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Rule clarification questions:
1. Are we supposed to reveal what our 3 classes are before the match or not?
2. What is the timeframe for the "rounds" and does the order matter?
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #101 on: February 09, 2015, 12:37:50 pm »
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Supose more probable win distribution. Here's results for both round robin and double elimination (calculated, not simulated):

Win probabilities
1   0.0   0.6   0.7   0.8
2   0.4   0.0   0.6   0.7
3   0.3   0.4   0.0   0.6
4   0.2   0.3   0.4   0.0
Round robin
Advance
1 0.7651199999999999
2 0.59824
3 0.40175999999999995
4 0.23488
Win
1 0.47312
2 0.28424
3 0.16176000000000004
4 0.08088
Double elimination
Advance
1 0.7858400000000001
2 0.6075466666666668
3 0.39245333333333327
4 0.21416000000000004
Win
1 0.5531754666666664
2 0.2763130666666666
3 0.1245696
4 0.04594186666666668

So both if we need to determine 2 advances and if we need to determine single winner double elimination is better. In case you provided there is no difference between double elimination and round robin - only the fact that however was paired with trash was decided by draw and not by skill, but supposedly skills are same

I'm not sure how you judge that double elimination is better based on that. The winner distribution is lower entropy because more games are played, and by averaging over all potential initial brackets you avoided the major issue which is the impact of the initial matchup. The problem is that the result depends too much on who plays whom first.

Player one is the best player and also wins more of the time in double elimination.  I haven't checked his math yet, though.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #102 on: February 09, 2015, 12:52:37 pm »
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This is a single example of a win probability matrix, and it's clear that player 1 is the best because he is 50%+ in all matchups.
So any reasonable format should have him win more of the time, and the one that involves more games will increase that chance. This is not particularly interesting.

In fact, let's make this super mathy...
Let the win probability matrix be a random variable X, and call the max wieght row k
Let the format be a mapping f:X-->y, where y is the win probability vector.

In this example it seems we are trying to maximize y(k) subject to X=A.

But I contend this is not what we want to maximize. What we want is that the random winner be the best predictor of the best player, that is:
maximize P(A(i) >= A(j) for all rows j | z = i, where z is drawn from the distribution given by y).

By making A non-random, this example doesn't really show anything.
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« Reply #103 on: February 09, 2015, 03:01:56 pm »
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This is a single example of a win probability matrix, and it's clear that player 1 is the best because he is 50%+ in all matchups.
So any reasonable format should have him win more of the time, and the one that involves more games will increase that chance. This is not particularly interesting.

In fact, let's make this super mathy...
Let the win probability matrix be a random variable X, and call the max wieght row k
Let the format be a mapping f:X-->y, where y is the win probability vector.

In this example it seems we are trying to maximize y(k) subject to X=A.

But I contend this is not what we want to maximize. What we want is that the random winner be the best predictor of the best player, that is:
maximize P(A(i) >= A(j) for all rows j | z = i, where z is drawn from the distribution given by y).

By making A non-random, this example doesn't really show anything.
Wait, a double elim bracket takes more games than round robin, for four people?
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« Reply #104 on: February 09, 2015, 03:10:29 pm »
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Yeah. Round Robin is 6 games. Double elim is 6 + P(LB winner beats WB winner)
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« Reply #105 on: February 09, 2015, 04:25:24 pm »
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Nkirbit beats Twistedarcher 3-2.
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« Reply #106 on: February 09, 2015, 05:02:38 pm »
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nkirbit 3 - HME 0.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #107 on: February 09, 2015, 05:29:53 pm »
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Kirbyhero over twisted archer 3-2
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« Reply #108 on: February 09, 2015, 05:32:19 pm »
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i tried to stream and record the set against twisted archer but the graphics froze and i only got audio
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« Reply #109 on: February 09, 2015, 06:18:16 pm »
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Rule clarification questions:
1. Are we supposed to reveal what our 3 classes are before the match or not?
2. What is the timeframe for the "rounds" and does the order matter?

1.  Not required, but allowed.
2.  I would generally say 2 days per round.  Since the format is round robin, the only reason to force the rounds to be played in order (i.e., no round 2 matches until round 1 is over) would be to build suspense.  So I think you can just play your matches.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Starting Tomorrow
« Reply #110 on: February 10, 2015, 02:04:19 am »
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Supose more probable win distribution. Here's results for both round robin and double elimination (calculated, not simulated):

Win probabilities
1   0.0   0.6   0.7   0.8
2   0.4   0.0   0.6   0.7
3   0.3   0.4   0.0   0.6
4   0.2   0.3   0.4   0.0
Round robin
Advance
1 0.7651199999999999
2 0.59824
3 0.40175999999999995
4 0.23488
Win
1 0.47312
2 0.28424
3 0.16176000000000004
4 0.08088
Double elimination
Advance
1 0.7858400000000001
2 0.6075466666666668
3 0.39245333333333327
4 0.21416000000000004
Win
1 0.5531754666666664
2 0.2763130666666666
3 0.1245696
4 0.04594186666666668

So both if we need to determine 2 advances and if we need to determine single winner double elimination is better. In case you provided there is no difference between double elimination and round robin - only the fact that however was paired with trash was decided by draw and not by skill, but supposedly skills are same

I'm not sure how you judge that double elimination is better based on that. The winner distribution is lower entropy because more games are played, and by averaging over all potential initial brackets you avoided the major issue which is the impact of the initial matchup. The problem is that the result depends too much on who plays whom first.

I was more interested in advancement percantages. And there double elim is supposedly better even with less game played. Also if there is no clear order I do not see any metrics to use
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Re: IsoHearth I: Round 2
« Reply #111 on: February 10, 2015, 03:39:46 am »
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Round 1 results:

nkirbit (Nick) defeats Twistedarcher (bkirbit)
mikohoy (HME) defeats kirbyhero (pops)

Round 2 results:

nkirbit (Nick) defeats HME (mikohoy)
kirbyhero (pops) defeats TwistedArcher (bkirbit)

Current standings:

nkirbit (2 points)
HME (1 point)
pops (1 point)
TA (0 points)

Round 3 remains:

Round 3:

TA vs. HME
nkirbit vs. Pops
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Re: IsoHearth I: Round 3
« Reply #112 on: February 10, 2015, 07:39:04 pm »
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nkirbit 3 - pops 2
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Re: IsoHearth I: Round 3
« Reply #113 on: February 11, 2015, 11:45:06 am »
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Nick takes the tourney!
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Re: IsoHearth I: Nkirbit Wins!
« Reply #114 on: February 12, 2015, 02:07:23 pm »
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mikohoy 3 - bkirbit 2

Now that we're all done, are deck lists going to be posted? It would be interesting if everyone knew how the deck matchups went.

This one was
me : TA
warlock < shaman
paladin > warrior
warlock < warrior
priest > hunter
warlock > hunter

vs nick was:
warlock < warrior
paladin < mage
paladin < hunter

vs pops I don't quite remember, but I think it was:
warlock > priest
paladin > warrior
priest > priest
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« Reply #115 on: February 12, 2015, 02:31:04 pm »
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Mine (I think) were:

Me : TA

Warrior > Warrior
Mage > Warrior
Hunter < Warrior
Hunter < Hunter
Hunter > Shaman

vs HME was:
warlock < warrior
paladin < mage
paladin < hunter

vs Pops was:

hunter < Warrior
Warrior > Priest
mage < priest
mage > paladin
hunter > paladin

I'm not 100% sure about the match vs pops.  I know that the order of wins and my classes were right, but his might be off.

I definitely wouldn't play my hunter deck again.  I ended up going 3-3 with it, and all of the losses were not at all close and all of the wins I barely got and I felt like I drew well above average.  I was very happy with my warrior deck, and my mage deck was okay.
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Re: IsoHearth I: Nkirbit Wins!
« Reply #116 on: February 12, 2015, 05:26:18 pm »
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I was playing Druid, not Paladin
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