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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #150 on: June 13, 2014, 02:19:49 pm »
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Oh, snap.

Jon Snow: Prince of Stewards.

Because R+L = J implies Jon is a prince, and he's a steward.

Edit: Okay it implies he's a king, but he used to be a prince.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #151 on: June 13, 2014, 02:21:41 pm »
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(Where are the Prince of Scout jokes, by the way?)
Scout isn't actually bad when it doesn't cost a card in your hand and gives you an extra action.
Yeah, Scout becomes a village with a bonus, and a village with a bonus usually costs 4$. In other terms, all you have to do to turn Scout into a correctly priced card is combining it with a card costing 8$.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #152 on: June 13, 2014, 02:27:21 pm »
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(Where are the Prince of Scout jokes, by the way?)
Scout isn't actually bad when it doesn't cost a card in your hand and gives you an extra action.
Yeah, Scout becomes a village with a bonus, and a village with a bonus usually costs 4$. In other terms, all you have to do to turn Scout into a correctly priced card is combining it with a card costing 8$.
to be fair you don't usually get to play your 4 cost village you bought every single turn.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #153 on: June 13, 2014, 02:37:45 pm »
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How often should you pass on playing your Prince?  It's effectively a one shot, so do you play it with that spent Witch in your hand to at least get the extra draw, or did you hold on to it hoping for a better pairing next shuffle?
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #154 on: June 13, 2014, 02:42:52 pm »
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If there are ever councilroom-style achievements again there should be one for playing Prince with a Ruined Village (or Ruins in general)
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #155 on: June 13, 2014, 02:42:59 pm »
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I think you usually play it on the witch. The witch may have been hurting your deck, and the difference in quality between +3 cards, + 1 action each turn and whatever you would have played it on several turns later isn't big enough to counteract the benefit you'll get in those turns. However, witch costs 5, so unless you have a cost reducer in play...
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #156 on: June 13, 2014, 02:43:52 pm »
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How often should you pass on playing your Prince?  It's effectively a one shot, so do you play it with that spent Witch in your hand to at least get the extra draw, or did you hold on to it hoping for a better pairing next shuffle?

In this example, it can do only cards costing up to four, so there's that. But in general, I would assume that when you buy a prince, you have at least generally some idea of what card(s) you want to use it on--no sense using it on something like a pawn when you have a smithy in your deck. And much of it, I'm sure, is based off of how much of the game is left.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #157 on: June 13, 2014, 02:45:52 pm »
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If there are ever councilroom-style achievements again there should be one for playing Prince with a Ruined Village (or Ruins in general)
"Ruin repairer"

seriously though:

prince on ruined village = village
prince on ruined market = market square
prince on ruined library = laboratory which is sort of like library?
prince on abandoned mine = peddler, which is sort of what mine does - give you a peddler in addition to a coin.
prince on survivors = uhh.... well there isn't any unruined survivors in the first place.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #158 on: June 13, 2014, 03:01:38 pm »
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I like Prince of Jesters.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #159 on: June 13, 2014, 03:06:45 pm »
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The card does seem kind of swingy (is that the right word?), given that even if both players go for it, it will be much much better for anyone who activates it even just a few turns ahead. No more so than some other cards, I suppose though.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #160 on: June 13, 2014, 03:12:49 pm »
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The card does seem kind of swingy (is that the right word?), given that even if both players go for it, it will be much much better for anyone who activates it even just a few turns ahead. No more so than some other cards, I suppose though.
The comparison to Tournament is pretty good.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #161 on: June 13, 2014, 03:16:07 pm »
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The card does seem kind of swingy (is that the right word?), given that even if both players go for it, it will be much much better for anyone who activates it even just a few turns ahead. No more so than some other cards, I suppose though.
The comparison to Tournament is pretty good.

Quite similar, given that both hinge upon getting an 8$ card and then linking it with a 4$ card. But I anticipate that with Prince, the effect will be far, far more exaggerated.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #162 on: June 13, 2014, 03:18:10 pm »
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When Donald was first emailing me about it, he mentioned "Prince of Pearl Divers". I immediately realized it was the best phrasing ever. I'm glad it's caught on here! :D

I'm trying to decide what the funniest "Prince of X" is. Too bad you can't have a Prince of Harems...

The Shanty Town Prince?

or maybe Prince of Misfits (which would be spectacular, actually.)
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #163 on: June 13, 2014, 03:22:12 pm »
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The card does seem kind of swingy (is that the right word?), given that even if both players go for it, it will be much much better for anyone who activates it even just a few turns ahead. No more so than some other cards, I suppose though.
The comparison to Tournament is pretty good.

Quite similar, given that both hinge upon getting an 8$ card and then linking it with a 4$ card. But I anticipate that with Prince, the effect will be far, far more exaggerated.
Depends on the kingdom, probably. Sometimes, being the only player to get the Princess or the Followers can be extremely good.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #164 on: June 13, 2014, 03:22:39 pm »
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The card does seem kind of swingy (is that the right word?), given that even if both players go for it, it will be much much better for anyone who activates it even just a few turns ahead. No more so than some other cards, I suppose though.
The comparison to Tournament is pretty good.

Quite similar, given that both hinge upon getting an 8$ card and then linking it with a 4$ card. But I anticipate that with Prince, the effect will be far, far more exaggerated.
the thing is, with tournament, the 8 cost gives you 6 points too. Prince is easier to connect with another action though.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #165 on: June 13, 2014, 03:24:24 pm »
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Prince is easier to connect with another action though.
At least if any Action is fine. If you need a Prince of a specific card, then isn't it equally easy, am I missing something here or was that just not the point?
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #166 on: June 13, 2014, 03:34:32 pm »
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If you have a Prince of Band of Misfits, do you get to keep changing the card or does it lock in like for Throne Room?
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #167 on: June 13, 2014, 03:35:00 pm »
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it leaves play each turn, so you can change it each turn
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #168 on: June 13, 2014, 03:50:39 pm »
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Maybe this has already been asked, but if you have Durations and this, do you get to choose the order of resolving them?
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #169 on: June 13, 2014, 03:51:27 pm »
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Maybe this has already been asked, but if you have Durations and this, do you get to choose the order of resolving them?
Yes and yes.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #170 on: June 13, 2014, 03:53:15 pm »
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Maybe this has already been asked, but if you have Durations and this, do you get to choose the order of resolving them?
Yes and yes.
Well, 4 pages is obviously way too much for me to keep track of.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #171 on: June 13, 2014, 04:21:08 pm »
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it leaves play each turn, so you can change it each turn

That doesn't help for Throne Room–Band of Misfits (Feast).
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #172 on: June 13, 2014, 04:25:50 pm »
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it leaves play each turn, so you can change it each turn

That doesn't help for Throne Room–Band of Misfits (Feast).

i dont think throned cards enter play several times

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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #173 on: June 13, 2014, 04:46:59 pm »
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it leaves play each turn, so you can change it each turn

That doesn't help for Throne Room–Band of Misfits (Feast).

i dont think throned cards enter play several times

They don't; but with Throne Room–Band of Misfits (Feast), the Band of Misfits leaves play and gets played again, but you don't get to redesignate it as something else the second time you play it. So with Prince–Band of Misfits, the Band of Misfits leaves play and gets played again, and I don't know whether you can redesignate it as something else the second time you play it.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #174 on: June 13, 2014, 05:20:33 pm »
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it leaves play each turn, so you can change it each turn

That doesn't help for Throne Room–Band of Misfits (Feast).

i dont think throned cards enter play several times

They don't; but with Throne Room–Band of Misfits (Feast), the Band of Misfits leaves play and gets played again, but you don't get to redesignate it as something else the second time you play it. So with Prince–Band of Misfits, the Band of Misfits leaves play and gets played again, and I don't know whether you can redesignate it as something else the second time you play it.

but BoM doesn't enter play a second time even if it imitates feast, it's in the trash after the first time, and only a phantom copy gets played the second time
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