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New Promo at Origins...
« on: June 12, 2014, 01:45:02 pm »
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 01:47:39 pm »
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Prince card:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1186675/new-dominion-origins-promo

Pretty powerful, pretty expensive.

I was thinking, "King's Court it to get three actions!" but I realized it said "If you do"...  I guess the best you could do now is play three Highways and use it on King's Court.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 01:52:07 pm »
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Then I thought of playing four Highways and playing it on itself, but then I realized the first one would lose track of the second once it got set aside.
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2014, 01:53:34 pm »
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Then I thought of playing four Highways and playing it on itself, but then I realized the first one would lose track of the second once it got set aside.

That's probably the answer to what I'm kicking around in the BGG thread. For a minute I thought double-Prince shenanigans might be allowed.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 01:55:08 pm »
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Glad to see it finally came out; it's a really cool and powerful card, but not without risk.  Someone reply here when it's possible to order a copy!
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 01:56:34 pm »
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4 Highways into Princing a Prince
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 01:56:51 pm »
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A princed Prince does nothing because you'll fail to trigger the "If you do" clause in "You may set this aside. If you do, set aside an Action card" at the beginning of each turn. I don't think the princes lose track of each other, they're identical twins after all.

Princing a Mercenary or Followers would be pretty sweet.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 01:58:19 pm »
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Glad to see it finally came out; it's a really cool and powerful card, but not without risk.  Someone reply here when it's possible to order a copy!
You won't get it for free after the playtesting?
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 01:59:31 pm »
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Also, someone on the BGG thread said that you get the Prince back, but you don't.  It stays set aside.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 02:02:00 pm »
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There's also the obvious Prince-Princess combo to make you Prince more expensive actions each turn.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 02:05:42 pm »
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Kind of reminds me of how tournament's payoff works. You buy an $8 card and get it to collide with a $4 card for a huge benefit.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2014, 02:08:00 pm »
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Kind of reminds me of how tournament's payoff works. You buy an $8 card and get it to collide with a $4 card for a huge benefit.

Or, better yet, pair it with Tournament...
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 02:11:57 pm »
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Glad to see it finally came out; it's a really cool and powerful card, but not without risk.  Someone reply here when it's possible to order a copy!
You won't get it for free after the playtesting?

I didn't playtest it.  Don't see why I would get it for free anyway.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 02:18:53 pm »
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Princing a Mercenary or Followers would be pretty sweet.

In our second playtest game, my housemate got a Prince of Spies, then that helped him get a Prince of Mercenaries. It was so brutal and awesome.

In the third game, I got a Prince of the Black Market, allowing me to buy Sea Hag. Then I got a Prince of Sea Hags.

Prince is awesome.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2014, 02:20:08 pm »
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2014, 02:25:54 pm »
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Guess the other question is '[when] will Goko get this?"
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2014, 02:28:14 pm »
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It conforms to the principle that $8 cards begin with the letter P.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2014, 02:29:06 pm »
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Guess the other question is '[when] will Goko get this?"

I don't expect soon, because implementing this correctly will require them to let you choose the order of start-of-turn effects. You want your Prince of Watchtowers to go off before your Wharf, but you want your Prince of Remodeling to go off afterward.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2014, 02:30:01 pm »
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Even Prince on a cantrip is like starting your turn by playing a level 2 City. It is an $8 card, to be fair.

I suppose it does need to compete with Province. In terminal draw-BM, it probably isn't worth it, but its existence makes terminal draw-BM weaker.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2014, 02:30:26 pm »
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Really interesting card.  Obviously princing a throne room, spy, scheme (that would be really nice) or other such card is going to be amazing.  I would be careful about princing a masquerade or ambassador though
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2014, 02:31:20 pm »
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Princing a Smithy is amazing...
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2014, 02:33:19 pm »
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Guess the other question is '[when] will Goko get this?"

I don't expect soon, because implementing this correctly will require them to let you choose the order of start-of-turn effects. You want your Prince of Watchtowers to go off before your Wharf, but you want your Prince of Remodeling to go off afterward.

Nah, they'll just go ahead and implement it incorrectly.
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2014, 02:34:28 pm »
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Just so I am straight on the mechanics of the card:  The card you choose to set aside will be played at the start of your turn every turn, but you may decide not to set it aside (for whatever reason) and then that card just gets shuffled back into your deck.  The prince itself is forever out of play
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2014, 02:36:15 pm »
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Just so I am straight on the mechanics of the card:  The card you choose to set aside will be played at the start of your turn every turn, but you may decide not to set it aside (for whatever reason) and then that card just gets shuffled back into your deck.  The prince itself is forever out of play
I don't think technically you are allowed to not set it aside intentionally, but if it gets rid of itself (Hermit), you could not set it aside whether you wanted to or not, and the Prince would still be out of play, yes (by my reading, I'm sure someone will confirm or deny).
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Re: New Promo at Origins...
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2014, 02:36:33 pm »
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Guess the other question is '[when] will Goko get this?"

I don't expect soon, because implementing this correctly will require them to let you choose the order of start-of-turn effects. You want your Prince of Watchtowers to go off before your Wharf, but you want your Prince of Remodeling to go off afterward.

Nah, they'll just go ahead and implement it incorrectly.

Is the anything in the rules about resolving start-of-turn effects?  I mean, the duration cards that we have really do not need any special rule, but this seems like it needs something in the rules to clarify when exactly it should happen.  Or if you get your choice of when it happens
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