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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2014, 12:08:58 am »
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Counterfeit > Copper
Tunnel > Estate
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2014, 12:39:53 am »
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Counterfeit > Copper
Tunnel > Estate

As was pointed out earlier, no one treasure is always better than another treasure due toTaxman.

Copper > Counterfeit with Coppersmith
Estate > Tunnel with Baron
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2014, 01:19:22 am »
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Counterfeit > Copper
Tunnel > Estate

As was pointed out earlier, no one treasure is always better than another treasure due toTaxman.

Copper > Counterfeit with Coppersmith
Estate > Tunnel with Baron

Ah yes. True.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #53 on: June 12, 2014, 02:47:47 am »
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And of course JoaT trumps every sub-5 action.

Except reactions. And a KC-KC bridge/highway sort of thing.

But is nobles better than smithy 100% of the time?
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2014, 03:23:22 am »
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But is nobles better than smithy 100% of the time?

You have a crossroads you want to play first, and drawing the extra card because of Nobles will trigger an unwanted re-shuffle (you have exactly three cards left in your deck before playing the Crossroads and Nobles/Smithy).
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2014, 03:35:27 am »
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And of course JoaT trumps every sub-5 action.

Except reactions. And a KC-KC bridge/highway sort of thing.

But is nobles better than smithy 100% of the time?

The JoaT one is a joke, right?

scott gives an example for Nobles.  Another one is when the opponent has Tribute.  If you only want to count cards in hand and not in your deck, you can do the same thing with opponent playing Ghost Ship first.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2014, 03:46:11 am »
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Journeyman should work because you can choose to name a card not in you deck to be equivalent to Smithy.

Except that Journeyman shows your opponent what you're drawing. Maybe he needs to know whether you've got a Village, so that he knows how to respond to your first Torturer, or whatever.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #57 on: June 12, 2014, 06:25:39 am »
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And of course JoaT trumps every sub-5 action.

Except reactions. And a KC-KC bridge/highway sort of thing.

But is nobles better than smithy 100% of the time?

The JoaT one is a joke, right?

scott gives an example for Nobles.  Another one is when the opponent has Tribute.  If you only want to count cards in hand and not in your deck, you can do the same thing with opponent playing Ghost Ship first.
Also jester, giving curse is better than gaining extra smithy.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2014, 08:49:59 am »
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Gah, meant to say Band of Misfits, not JoaT.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2014, 09:17:47 am »
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BoM doesn't work because the supply pile of the card you want to play it as could be empty. Another universal edge case: In your deck you have three cards, a, a, and b. a is supposedly strictly better than b. You play wishing well and draw a, and now you you can't guarrantee getting your wish right. You would prefer b in your hand because then you can get your wish right.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2014, 09:29:34 am »
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Counterfeit > Copper
Tunnel > Estate

Moneylender, Baron.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2014, 09:30:11 am »
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And of course JoaT trumps every sub-5 action.

Except reactions. And a KC-KC bridge/highway sort of thing.

But is nobles better than smithy 100% of the time?

Nope, Bureaucrat.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2014, 09:37:18 am »
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universal edge case
Okay, now I've seen everything.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2014, 09:38:43 am »
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universal edge case
Okay, now I've seen everything.

All cases were created edgy, but some are more edgy than others.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2014, 09:51:54 am »
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Gah, meant to say Band of Misfits, not JoaT.

If the piles run out then it's not as good as the actual card.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2014, 10:02:00 am »
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Gah, meant to say Band of Misfits, not JoaT.

If the piles run out then it's not as good as the actual card.
Or if there are five Highways in play.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2014, 11:10:11 am »
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Witch>Young Witch
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2014, 11:14:35 am »
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Witch>Young Witch

Tunnel, Menagerie.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #68 on: June 12, 2014, 11:18:11 am »
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You guys are forgetting Fairgrounds. When you have 6 fairgrounds, Curse>Colony if Curse is your 10th, 15th, 20th, etc. card
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #69 on: June 12, 2014, 11:19:50 am »
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You guys are forgetting Fairgrounds. When you have 6 fairgrounds, Curse>Colony if Curse is your 10th, 15th, 20th, etc. card

It was explicitly excluded, because it can be made to be an edge case for wanting an arbitrary card X over another arbitrary card Y always.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #70 on: June 12, 2014, 11:42:08 am »
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The challenge also states that it only cares about having one in hand
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #71 on: June 12, 2014, 12:12:47 pm »
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Grand Market>Conspirator
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2014, 12:14:34 pm »
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Grand Market>Conspirator

Don't want to draw a card.
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Re: Strictly better than....
« Reply #73 on: June 12, 2014, 03:06:31 pm »
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Diadem>Masterpiece
Peddler>Oasis?
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« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2014, 03:07:07 pm »
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