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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #925 on: July 02, 2014, 04:53:17 pm »

lol voting for two people at once.

I am against claiming Today.

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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #926 on: July 02, 2014, 04:53:49 pm »

Oh cool, you really can combine underline with bold  :D

But yes, against D2 claiming, thanks.

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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #927 on: July 02, 2014, 04:54:41 pm »

Lio/PPS are the remaining scum.  This D2 gambit by PPS is classic scum!pps.  Lio is hiding and hoping we'll forget.

I'll take my town MVP now.

vote: liopoil and pps

D2 gambit?  Wouldn't the gambit have been in day 1? 

Why was BA scum earlier but isn't any more?

I never thought BA was scum (in the sense that I had info or something).  I posted like I was sure/had a result to see reactions.  A wagon shot up, with a few jumping on/off fairly erratically.  Makes for good evidence now and later.

Liopoil's reaction to my hammer on D1 is the most damning post in the game, though.  No reason not to lynch there.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #928 on: July 02, 2014, 04:57:10 pm »

ok 4 voting for claiming

Hydrad, faust, gin, mail

3 against

pps, witherweaver, chairs
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #929 on: July 02, 2014, 04:58:05 pm »

Lio/PPS are the remaining scum.  This D2 gambit by PPS is classic scum!pps.  Lio is hiding and hoping we'll forget.

I'll take my town MVP now.

vote: liopoil and pps

Can you answer my question, please?
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #930 on: July 02, 2014, 05:01:57 pm »

Lio/PPS are the remaining scum.  This D2 gambit by PPS is classic scum!pps.  Lio is hiding and hoping we'll forget.

I'll take my town MVP now.

vote: liopoil and pps

Can you answer my question, please?

Nothing I may have done intersects with anything you are asking about.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #931 on: July 02, 2014, 05:02:55 pm »

catching up now, but the first thing I see is the most recent post:

Lio/PPS are the remaining scum.  This D2 gambit by PPS is classic scum!pps.  Lio is hiding and hoping we'll forget.

I'll take my town MVP now.

vote: liopoil and pps

Can you answer my question, please?
quotes a post claiming that I am hiding. I think that's pretty rude - day started right about when I went to sleep, I had like 2 seconds to post and roll in the morning, and just got back now.

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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #932 on: July 02, 2014, 05:12:05 pm »

2 terms if someone could let me know. I've read the mafia terms page and don't seem to see them their

ppe: (is this referencing an old post or something?

IC: (I have no clue what this is)
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #933 on: July 02, 2014, 05:13:56 pm »

In your next post, everyone please state: Did you target me on N0? Did you target me on N1 (other than with the Doc thingy)?
sorry, didn't do this in my next post because I didn't see it yet. I targetted you on N1.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #934 on: July 02, 2014, 05:20:43 pm »

2 terms if someone could let me know. I've read the mafia terms page and don't seem to see them their

ppe: (is this referencing an old post or something?

IC: (I have no clue what this is)

Pre-post edit: that's when you get the little red notification after you hit post that says some other posts have been posted since you started writing.

IC: innocent child, or confirmed town.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #935 on: July 02, 2014, 05:26:26 pm »

catching up now, but the first thing I see is the most recent post:

Lio/PPS are the remaining scum.  This D2 gambit by PPS is classic scum!pps.  Lio is hiding and hoping we'll forget.

I'll take my town MVP now.

vote: liopoil and pps

Can you answer my question, please?
quotes a post claiming that I am hiding. I think that's pretty rude - day started right about when I went to sleep, I had like 2 seconds to post and roll in the morning, and just got back now.

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Rude?  Really?  I think it's ridiculous to be making civility pledge defenses already.  Your posts have been insubstantial and lacking, so even when you were here, you remained under the radar.  To me, that's hiding, and that's a "scum on the defensive" tactic.  Your overreaction and calling it a personal attack is even more of the same.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #936 on: July 02, 2014, 05:29:15 pm »

it's not a civility pledge defense, nor is it accusing you of doing anything intentionally offensive. I'm just saying that accusing me of hiding is unwarranted because this is simply the first time I have been online for more than a couple minutes on D2.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #937 on: July 02, 2014, 05:30:43 pm »

it's not a civility pledge defense, nor is it accusing you of doing anything intentionally offensive. I'm just saying that accusing me of hiding is unwarranted because this is simply the first time I have been online for more than a couple minutes on D2.

Oh.  I took it the wrong way then.  My bad there.

If you've been LA, even slightly, I'll believe you, obviously.  Unless you are lying.  But you are probably not lying.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #938 on: July 02, 2014, 05:45:42 pm »

Vote: ashersky

not OMGUS, this is just classic wounded ashersky.

What gambit have I pulled asher? Where is my scummy behavior? You know lynching me is suicide which is why you're going for it. You want out. Self-vote, it's less mess for everyone. If I'm lynched and I flip town you are next target. If you are Town you're not even trying which is a pity.

I'd really rather lynch outside of ashersky but I am relatively confident he is scum. He was scum yesterday and he's still scum today.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #939 on: July 02, 2014, 05:48:08 pm »

My main reservation on ashersky is that he could easily be truly convinced I am scum (which is always a fool's errand for Town) which will blow up in his face when I flip. It's a classic mutually assured destruction deal that I'd rather avoid for today because it pretty well dictates the next day if either one of us is wrong about the other.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #940 on: July 02, 2014, 05:55:26 pm »

Vote: ashersky

not OMGUS, this is just classic wounded ashersky.

What gambit have I pulled asher? Where is my scummy behavior? You know lynching me is suicide which is why you're going for it. You want out. Self-vote, it's less mess for everyone. If I'm lynched and I flip town you are next target. If you are Town you're not even trying which is a pity.

I'd really rather lynch outside of ashersky but I am relatively confident he is scum. He was scum yesterday and he's still scum today.

You and I have been scum together before.  That's why I don't understand what you are doing here.

I'm happy to be lynched.

When the QTs are shared, you will all see that I predicted that scum would play the "ashersky would quickhammer his partner as scum" card.  Voltaire was nowhere near being lynched.  I was fairly sure he was town.  I sent a PM to the mods asking them to apologize to Voltaire for me before the flip happened.  It's all confirmable after the game.

I quickhammered town!Voltaire to see what would happen.  I was hoping twilight would last longer so we could get more reactions.  Had voltaire been town, the reactions that we did get wouldn't have been so useful.  Like, liopoil's wouldn't look so bad at all if Voltaire was town.  Then it turned out it was scum!Voltaire, which was awesome.

Note: when someone says "this isn't OMGUS" it is always OMGUS.

PPS, you have an abrasive style of play, just like me.  When we're on the same team, it works pretty well, actually.  When we're not, it's generally unpleasant for everyone else. 

I'm not wounded, and I don't know where you'd get that.  I'm winning.  You, and most everyone else, knows I don't care at all if I die in a game.  I only care about winning.  Getting mislynched as town is a great thing sometimes -- it helps the rest of town understand a lot.

I mean, convince everyone to lynch me.  It'll just be the final nail in your coffin, man.

If you could point out "wounded ashersky" in this game, that's be nice.  I hammered scum.  That goes on my stats.  I've been on a tremendous roll of form for awhile now as town, so much so it's basically unfair to scum.  But that's what happens sometimes.  I was at a fairly terrible level of play for awhile, so it's good to be back on top for a bit.

Scum's in a terrible way right now.  They lost their roleblocker on D1, and with the medical support, they had to shoot for someone least likely to be protected.  Taking out Box did nothing to help them.  Town has any and all PRs left, strong players are remaining.

What I love is how scared you are acting.  You're like a cornered raccoon.  So much so you don't even realize I'm not voting for you, and yet to try to defend your post as "not OMGUS."  Sorry man.  You are toast.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #941 on: July 02, 2014, 05:56:45 pm »

My main reservation on ashersky is that he could easily be truly convinced I am scum (which is always a fool's errand for Town) which will blow up in his face when I flip. It's a classic mutually assured destruction deal that I'd rather avoid for today because it pretty well dictates the next day if either one of us is wrong about the other.

If this means "if we lynch ashersky and he flips town, I'm lynched tomorrow," then yes, you are (hopefully) right.  You also mean for it to say "if you lynch me and I flip town, then please lynch ashersky" right?  If you somehow flipped town, that'd definitely be a possibility.

Except, I'm still voting for liopoil.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #942 on: July 02, 2014, 06:10:46 pm »

Lio/PPS are the remaining scum.  This D2 gambit by PPS is classic scum!pps.  Lio is hiding and hoping we'll forget.

I'll take my town MVP now.

vote: liopoil and pps

Who do you actually intend to be voting here?  You have to pick one player!  I'm not counting this vote as is.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #943 on: July 02, 2014, 07:16:29 pm »

Ashersky is also terrible at reading between lines.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #944 on: July 02, 2014, 07:17:50 pm »

Lio/PPS are the remaining scum.  This D2 gambit by PPS is classic scum!pps.  Lio is hiding and hoping we'll forget.

I'll take my town MVP now.

vote: liopoil and pps

Who do you actually intend to be voting here?  You have to pick one player!  I'm not counting this vote as is.

Syntax would be liopoil.

vote: liopoil and PPS.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #945 on: July 02, 2014, 07:18:02 pm »

Ashersky is also terrible at reading between lines.

I'm very literal.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #946 on: July 02, 2014, 07:18:32 pm »

Ashersky is also terrible at reading between lines.
I've never played with you before and don't really know how to read you at all. From what some people have been saying, Ash has Bussed his own team by hammering them before. To me, that just makes me think he wouldn't pull the same trick twice and expect to get away with it.

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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #947 on: July 02, 2014, 07:19:05 pm »

I'm curious to hear ashersky describe how it makes sense that I put Voltaire at L-1 despite not voting anywhere near him prior to that but rather testing the waters surrounding him. By the time I voted Voltaire yesterday I would have been shocked if he flipped Town.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #948 on: July 02, 2014, 07:21:29 pm »

I'm curious to hear ashersky describe how it makes sense that I put Voltaire at L-1 despite not voting anywhere near him prior to that but rather testing the waters surrounding him. By the time I voted Voltaire yesterday I would have been shocked if he flipped Town.

If you put him to L-1, that gives you a bit of towncred, I think, if you were a normal player.

But the "ash is crazy enough to derphammer is own partner" argument (which is ridiculous) applies to you times a million.  You are the brashest scum player on f.ds.  So scum!pps putting his scumpartner to L-1 early on D1 is completely possible.

If you would have been shocked for Voltaire to flip town, why were you nowhere near him all day?  That's a contradiction.  You are saying "I never suspected him or voted him or near him or anything about him ever!!!!! but then I voted for him to put him at L-1 and was absolutely sure he was scum."  Tell me how that makes sense.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #949 on: July 02, 2014, 07:21:59 pm »

First of all... reading the OP isn't scummy. I read it at work via an e-mail w/o the correct format and still got the following out of it. Your lack of reading comprehension does not make anyone else scummy. It just means you need to read better...

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