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AJD

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Thought experiment: On-buy Princess?
« on: December 05, 2011, 02:41:43 pm »
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Suppose we wanted a card that had this rule:

"When you buy this card, +1 buy and all cards cost $2 less for the rest of this turn (but not below $0)."

Is there any combination of cost and other behavior that could render such a card balanced?

Some thoughts:

Presumably it should be something you don't want to clutter up your deck with too much of; we don't want people to have too much incentive to buy out the whole stack on one turn and then grab a Colony for free. Maybe a 2-point Victory card? I'm thinking Farmland as a model here. You still might do that whole-stack buyout in endgame, though, so maybe a victory card isn't the right way to go. Weak terminal action is also a possibility—something that someone might want to buy before endgame, but not too many of at once.

Farmland might also be a good comparison point for pricing. With Farmland, if you have $8 you buy a Province, but if you have $9 you might buy a Farmland and remodel a Gold. So suppose this is $6. In that case, if you have $8 you can buy one of these and let's say a Caravan.... You'd probably go for the Province anyway. If you have $9, you can get this and a Duchy—not as good as Farmland, but you don't have to trash a Gold for it either. With $10, you can one of these and a Gold, or two of these and a Caravan.... Hm. To buy out the stack, you'd need $12.

If it's $5, then $8 gets you one of these and a Duchy, or two of these and a Gardens.... $9 empties the stack. That's too cheap. If it's $7, then buying out the stack costs $16, but by the time you can put together $16, a few of these may already have been bought.

Other sources of +buy could make this insane, of course.

Thoughts?
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Re: Thought experiment: On-buy Princess?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 03:29:43 pm »
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What if it were something like this:

Card X
"When you buy this card, +1 buy and all cards other than Card X cost $2 less for the rest of this turn (but not below $0)."

This prevents you from being able to buy a lot of them in 1 turn.

The other problem is Highway/Bridge issues... if you can manage to get this card down to $0, then it doesn't matter what else is there, the stack instantly becomes yours.

So, perhaps:
"When you buy this card, all cards other than Card X cost $2 less for the rest of this turn (but not below $0). If you have not bought another Card X this turn, +1 buy."
« Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 10:12:34 am by GendoIkari »
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Re: Thought experiment: On-buy Princess?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 04:14:59 pm »
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for example, if the card is called "Walled Mart" you could add...

"... When you buy this, you may not buy another Walled Mart from the supply this turn."

EDIT: fixed my dumbness
« Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 02:36:45 pm by plasticbrain »
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