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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #500 on: May 20, 2014, 05:04:55 pm »

Post counts are a fine and useful tool. They're an amazing starting point, incentive scum to trip themselves up, and are a wonderful proxy for alignment that I would wager is near-unbeaten for D1 success.

So. Who are you voting for, and why?

There are probably 5 or 6 people I would lynch. I am advocating for my top choice, but by no means my only choice.

I'm just surprised this is your top choice, given how light a suspicion it is.

I'm voting for Beyond Awesome, I thought his sheepy vote on Axxle was textbook newbie scum. I still have to do a reread which is hard because I'm in my finals week right now...

I get that my vote isn't very useful where it is, and the deadline is tomorrow right ? So I'll change it, but I doubt S_P is our best option here.

PPE : Even on day 1, this is a nothing case. There have been five or six stronger cases in this game already. You don't like lynching active people, that's fine, but still.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #501 on: May 20, 2014, 05:09:13 pm »

D1 cases are usually BAD! They're great on later days for interactions but horrible for choosing a lynch on D1. I wildly disagree that there are "5 or 6" stronger cases.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #502 on: May 20, 2014, 05:12:31 pm »

Post counts are a fine and useful tool. They're an amazing starting point, incentive scum to trip themselves up, and are a wonderful proxy for alignment that I would wager is near-unbeaten for D1 success.

So. Who are you voting for, and why?

There are probably 5 or 6 people I would lynch. I am advocating for my top choice, but by no means my only choice.

I'm just surprised this is your top choice, given how light a suspicion it is.

I'm voting for Beyond Awesome, I thought his sheepy vote on Axxle was textbook newbie scum. I still have to do a reread which is hard because I'm in my finals week right now...

I get that my vote isn't very useful where it is, and the deadline is tomorrow right ? So I'll change it, but I doubt S_P is our best option here.

PPE : Even on day 1, this is a nothing case. There have been five or six stronger cases in this game already. You don't like lynching active people, that's fine, but still.
Maybe, but I'd rather lynch him tomorrow because I don't want to scare brand new players away <.< >.> (>'-')> <('-'<) ^(' - ')^ <('-'<) (>'-')>
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #503 on: May 20, 2014, 05:12:57 pm »

D1 cases are usually BAD! They're great on later days for interactions but horrible for choosing a lynch on D1. I wildly disagree that there are "5 or 6" stronger cases.

Hmm... so we should make cases on Day 1 but not actually follow through with them?
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« Reply #504 on: May 20, 2014, 05:18:52 pm »

D1 cases are usually BAD! They're great on later days for interactions but horrible for choosing a lynch on D1. I wildly disagree that there are "5 or 6" stronger cases.

Hmm... so we should make cases on Day 1 but not actually follow through with them?

The traditional way of making cases (ie searching for contradictions, analyzing votes) on D1 is terrible. It has a proven track record of being terrible on D1. I advocate a different way of making cases on D1. I do not advocate what you said, and I have no idea why you would think that.
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« Reply #505 on: May 20, 2014, 05:21:23 pm »

D1 cases are usually BAD! They're great on later days for interactions but horrible for choosing a lynch on D1. I wildly disagree that there are "5 or 6" stronger cases.

Hmm... so we should make cases on Day 1 but not actually follow through with them?

The traditional way of making cases (ie searching for contradictions, analyzing votes) on D1 is terrible. It has a proven track record of being terrible on D1. I advocate a different way of making cases on D1. I do not advocate what you said, and I have no idea why you would think that.

Well you said they're terrible for finding scum on day 1, yet they're very useful later on.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #506 on: May 20, 2014, 05:23:21 pm »

Volt, why do you want to still vote me when your original reason was demonstrably false?
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« Reply #507 on: May 20, 2014, 05:23:44 pm »

D1 cases are usually BAD! They're great on later days for interactions but horrible for choosing a lynch on D1. I wildly disagree that there are "5 or 6" stronger cases.

Hmm... so we should make cases on Day 1 but not actually follow through with them?

The traditional way of making cases (ie searching for contradictions, analyzing votes) on D1 is terrible. It has a proven track record of being terrible on D1. I advocate a different way of making cases on D1. I do not advocate what you said, and I have no idea why you would think that.

Well you said they're terrible for finding scum on day 1, yet they're very useful later on.

Correct. Useful in that the same method is good D2 onwards, and anything that causes posting on D1 is good. Not best, but good.
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« Reply #508 on: May 20, 2014, 05:24:05 pm »

Volt, why do you want to still vote me when your original reason was demonstrably false?

That you discarded Mountebank?
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« Reply #509 on: May 20, 2014, 05:25:02 pm »

Volt, why do you want to still vote me when your original reason was demonstrably false?

That you discarded Mountebank?
That I didn't keep an obviously scummy card.
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« Reply #510 on: May 20, 2014, 05:29:18 pm »

Volt, why do you want to still vote me when your original reason was demonstrably false?

That you discarded Mountebank?
That I didn't keep an obviously scummy card.

Argh. Right. I just really want to lynch you?
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« Reply #511 on: May 20, 2014, 05:31:59 pm »

Acceptable answer.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #512 on: May 20, 2014, 05:51:20 pm »

Vote Count 1.9

Robz888 (2): chairs, Twistedarcher
Nik (2): scott_pilgrim, EgorK
Beyond Awesome (1): Teproc
scott_pilgrim (7): Voltaire, Robz888, A Drowned Kernal, Nik, XerxesPraelor, xeiron, Axxle
Ichimaru Gin (2): Witherweaver, jotheonah

Not Voting (2): Beyond Awesome, Ichimaru Gin

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends on Wed. May 21 at 11 PM FT. That's in a bit more than 24 hours

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #513 on: May 20, 2014, 05:55:52 pm »

BA, IG, we need you guys to vote somewhere.
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« Reply #514 on: May 20, 2014, 06:13:37 pm »

BA, IG, we need you guys to vote somewhere.
Oh whoa! I lost track of the deadline. My vote will be here shortly

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« Reply #515 on: May 20, 2014, 06:17:22 pm »

Except scott is the only person remotely close to being lynched. Do you think there's a chance of someone different happening today?
I will vote for scott if we are super near the deadline and need a lynch, but he's not really my first choice.
If we're lynching a lurker, I think I'd prefer chairs.

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« Reply #516 on: May 20, 2014, 06:20:45 pm »

I'm willing to move back to Nik if you think that's a good vote. I'm only on sp because of the deadline.

chairs is VLA so I don't like him as a vote.
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« Reply #517 on: May 20, 2014, 06:21:29 pm »

Vote: Nik
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« Reply #518 on: May 20, 2014, 06:21:59 pm »

I'm willing to move back to Nik if you think that's a good vote. I'm only on sp because of the deadline.

chairs is VLA so I don't like him as a vote.
but isn't scott the same thing?

I am also willing to move to Nik.

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #519 on: May 20, 2014, 06:38:54 pm »

Deadline is tomorrow night, not tonight, right?
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #520 on: May 20, 2014, 06:39:49 pm »

Except scott is the only person remotely close to being lynched. Do you think there's a chance of someone different happening today?
I will vote for scott if we are super near the deadline and need a lynch, but he's not really my first choice.
If we're lynching a lurker, I think I'd prefer chairs.
Not Chairs! Remember, he said he had Internet problems. I think Scott_Pilgrim and BA would be better canidatates.
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« Reply #521 on: May 20, 2014, 06:40:31 pm »

Deadline is tomorrow night, not tonight, right?
Yeah. A bit more than 24 hours from now.

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« Reply #522 on: May 20, 2014, 06:46:03 pm »

I'm willing to move back to Nik if you think that's a good vote. I'm only on sp because of the deadline.

chairs is VLA so I don't like him as a vote.
but isn't scott the same thing?

I am also willing to move to Nik.

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Kinda, but he's also had more time to react to his wagon.
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« Reply #523 on: May 20, 2014, 06:47:10 pm »

Except scott is the only person remotely close to being lynched. Do you think there's a chance of someone different happening today?
I will vote for scott if we are super near the deadline and need a lynch, but he's not really my first choice.
If we're lynching a lurker, I think I'd prefer chairs.
Not Chairs! Remember, he said he had Internet problems. I think Scott_Pilgrim and BA would be better canidatates.
Ok Nik. I'm not going to ask you to claim your card just yet but can you reveal your alignment?
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« Reply #524 on: May 20, 2014, 06:47:35 pm »

Except scott is the only person remotely close to being lynched. Do you think there's a chance of someone different happening today?
I will vote for scott if we are super near the deadline and need a lynch, but he's not really my first choice.
If we're lynching a lurker, I think I'd prefer chairs.
Not Chairs! Remember, he said he had Internet problems. I think Scott_Pilgrim and BA would be better canidatates.
I think it was scott who was having problems with his internet (maybe chairs too). I just checked the VLA thread, and yeah sp posted about having internet problems.
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