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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #775 on: May 25, 2014, 03:00:28 pm »

Vote: Archetype for WIFOMing.


Huh?????
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #776 on: May 25, 2014, 03:03:31 pm »

Vote: Archetype for WIFOMing.


Huh?????
Niks right. Can't you see it in Archetypes argument?

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #777 on: May 25, 2014, 03:06:27 pm »

Vote: Archetype for WIFOMing.


Huh?????
Niks right. Can't you see it in Archetypes argument?

Phone post.

But doesn't just almost everything have some WIFOM in it?
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #778 on: May 25, 2014, 03:25:08 pm »

Vote: Archetype for WIFOMing.


Huh?????
Niks right. Can't you see it in Archetypes argument?

Phone post.

But doesn't just almost everything have some WIFOM in it?
To a degree yes. However, as you yourself already pointed out, I have been shown to do two different things.
1. Refer to town as if I am a member of it (or inserting references, or whatever)--which is normally seen as a scummy behavior.
2. Refer to town as a third party e.g. "members of town" which I see as a completely null behavior.

Archetype however, sees #2 as scummy for some reason. The WIFOM comes in because there's an element of because he sees #2 as scummy and #1 is already seen as scummy, then no matter how I refer to town there's a scum argument that he can apply to it.

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #779 on: May 25, 2014, 03:31:06 pm »

Vote Count 2.2

Ichimaru Gin (1): Archetype

Archetype (1): Nik


Not Voting (9): EgorK, XerxesPraelor, Beyond Awesome, Axxle, WW, scott_pilgrim, Voltaire, A Drowned Kernal, Ichimaru Gin

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #780 on: May 25, 2014, 03:48:15 pm »

@Ichi.  Okay, but why does this make Arch suspicious? 
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #781 on: May 25, 2014, 03:50:58 pm »

@Ichi.  Okay, but why does this make Arch suspicious?
Because it just seems like poor reasoning to me. It's also arguing counter to what is seen as normal reads.
I mean, it's like Archetype ignores all of my D1 behavior and acts like that one post was the only one I made and takes issue with something that isn't even scummy.
That sort of thing'd be fine earlier on, but it seems really weird at this point. (And by weird I mean scummy).

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #782 on: May 25, 2014, 03:55:05 pm »

Vote: Ichimaru

What I'm getting from him here, and looking back to his posting on day one, is that his posts feel like they're coming from scum who thinks that town is suspicious of him for the wrong reasons and is trying to deflect any suspicion. It's easy for scum to feel like there's more pressure on them than there actually is, and I find Ichi's reactions here (and his reactions day one) to be indicative of nervous scum.
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« Reply #783 on: May 25, 2014, 03:58:00 pm »

Vote: Ichimaru

What I'm getting from him here, and looking back to his posting on day one, is that his posts feel like they're coming from scum who thinks that town is suspicious of him for the wrong reasons and is trying to deflect any suspicion. It's easy for scum to feel like there's more pressure on them than there actually is, and I find Ichi's reactions here (and his reactions day one) to be indicative of nervous scum.
Oh well. Just go ahead and ignore that I'm always reactive and defensive no matter what my alignment (and I have displayed exactly this same behavior multiple times as town).
That's fine though. It always turns out this way that me defending myself against bad arguments makes people want to vote for me.

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #784 on: May 26, 2014, 09:51:19 pm »

bump.

Anyone else want to vote for me?

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #785 on: May 26, 2014, 10:47:36 pm »

Ok, guys. We're in rough shape and that's no lie. But we also have lots and lots of information and interactions. If you're town, get re-reading. We can figure this out.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #786 on: May 26, 2014, 10:48:06 pm »

@Ichi.  Okay, but why does this make Arch suspicious?
Because it just seems like poor reasoning to me. It's also arguing counter to what is seen as normal reads.
I mean, it's like Archetype ignores all of my D1 behavior and acts like that one post was the only one I made and takes issue with something that isn't even scummy.
That sort of thing'd be fine earlier on, but it seems really weird at this point. (And by weird I mean scummy).

Arch just joined though, right?
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #787 on: May 26, 2014, 10:56:51 pm »

I feel like scott's choice of Voltaire and his explanation for it are odd. Several people said they found Volt towny day one but that was before the Robz lynch. I know that I at least find Voltaire scummier after what happened. And "I didn't have much time" might mean he had other stuff to worry about, like his faction's NK.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #788 on: May 26, 2014, 10:59:04 pm »

@Ichi.  Okay, but why does this make Arch suspicious?
Because it just seems like poor reasoning to me. It's also arguing counter to what is seen as normal reads.
I mean, it's like Archetype ignores all of my D1 behavior and acts like that one post was the only one I made and takes issue with something that isn't even scummy.
That sort of thing'd be fine earlier on, but it seems really weird at this point. (And by weird I mean scummy).

Arch just joined though, right?
Yes. That's right. Does that excuse anything though?
I mean, I've never subbed before; I appreciate him doing it and can see that it could be hard to follow everything going on.
But especially if you are town, it's important to make educated votes. Not voting someone for a bad reason and distracting from scum.

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #789 on: May 26, 2014, 11:41:12 pm »

I feel like scott's choice of Voltaire and his explanation for it are odd. Several people said they found Volt towny day one but that was before the Robz lynch. I know that I at least find Voltaire scummier after what happened. And "I didn't have much time" might mean he had other stuff to worry about, like his faction's NK.

Did Voltaire do something particularly scummy at the end of the day?  He was on the Robz wagon, but so were half of the people alive...Robz singled him out at twilight but I didn't understand why so I guess I didn't pay much attention to it.

Or was it his buddying Nik?  I found that to be towny, I don't think scum is as obvious about something like that as Voltaire was D1, he just seemed legitimately convinced that Nik was town.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #790 on: May 27, 2014, 10:33:43 am »

Hey everyone, back and caught up. I won't have time to dig into the game until tonight though. I think we're actually in a good position to lynch scum today even if we're in a bad position overall!
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #791 on: May 27, 2014, 10:38:09 am »

Hey everyone, back and caught up. I won't have time to dig into the game until tonight though. I think we're actually in a good position to lynch scum today even if we're in a bad position overall!

Man, if we rolled a die to lynch someone we'd be in a good position to lynch scum today.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #792 on: May 27, 2014, 10:39:23 am »

@Ichi.  Okay, but why does this make Arch suspicious?
Because it just seems like poor reasoning to me. It's also arguing counter to what is seen as normal reads.
I mean, it's like Archetype ignores all of my D1 behavior and acts like that one post was the only one I made and takes issue with something that isn't even scummy.
That sort of thing'd be fine earlier on, but it seems really weird at this point. (And by weird I mean scummy).

Arch just joined though, right?
Yes. That's right. Does that excuse anything though?
I mean, I've never subbed before; I appreciate him doing it and can see that it could be hard to follow everything going on.
But especially if you are town, it's important to make educated votes. Not voting someone for a bad reason and distracting from scum.

My thought was he'd react more to stuff happening now than Day 1 stuff.  I'm not quite so sure about what you're saying with the Day 1 vs. Day 2 thing though.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #793 on: May 27, 2014, 10:43:31 am »

Hey everyone, back and caught up. I won't have time to dig into the game until tonight though. I think we're actually in a good position to lynch scum today even if we're in a bad position overall!

Man, if we rolled a die to lynch someone we'd be in a good position to lynch scum today.

ppppphtph  :P
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #794 on: May 27, 2014, 12:28:25 pm »

Let's do that, actually.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #795 on: May 27, 2014, 12:29:28 pm »

Didn't SP claim cop?

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #796 on: May 27, 2014, 12:30:13 pm »

Rolled 1d10 : 2, total 2
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #797 on: May 27, 2014, 12:30:48 pm »

vote: Nik
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #798 on: May 27, 2014, 01:40:49 pm »

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #799 on: May 27, 2014, 02:19:39 pm »

Didn't SP claim cop?

Watcher, actually.

vote: Nik

Worst choice.

I'm starting to get really suspicious of this. I don't see what you find so towny about Nik, and you're going way, way out of your way to defend him.
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