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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #100 on: May 09, 2014, 10:14:50 am »
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Your ranking won't be off by one or two. If it went wrong, I mixed up usernames. For example, I had myself ranked #2668 initially because my script mixed me up with "Stef Morris".

Well, I am at #66 now, and I think a month ago it could be anywhere. I can believe it was as low as #149, but it definitely can be.

I announced the date upfront and promised to use these rankings, that's the main reason for using them now.

I know. Sorry if it sounded like me complaining, I was just asking. I should have complained when R&R were posted.

The signups take a little longer then I initially planned (due to gokodom taking longer) and also I don't think it matters that much. It's not as though my list is ancient, it's just one month old.
If I could go back in time, I would probably use rankings at closing of signups indeed. Sorry to those people that made it into B or C out of nowhere, but until I hear of one actual example I have no one to feel sorry for.

Well, I think I would be one division up using today's ranking. But I do not really mind, lots of people in the C division are people I know I would enjoy playing.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #101 on: May 09, 2014, 11:17:33 am »
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Oh, you took the rankings from the full leaderboard. That explains why I'm rank 126 there. Due to lack of Isotropish rating drift, I'm still pretty much where I was a month ago.

C division is ideal for me. It's crazy that there are a lot of big names in division C out of only 4 divisions. Even Division D looks pretty formidable.

Dominion League is already looking awesome.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #102 on: May 09, 2014, 12:16:10 pm »
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Confirmed.

Now to sit around hoping that no one who was higher ranked than me a month ago signs up (although getting knocked down to C would  likely put me in the same league as Adam H which would be cool)
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #103 on: May 09, 2014, 01:52:24 pm »
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My ranking seems reasonable.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #104 on: May 09, 2014, 02:05:23 pm »
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well, that could be accurate as of a month ago, but a month ago I hadn't played a pro game in quite some time. I have been consistantly in the top 600 on the full leaderboard for several weeks now I believe. That's still division D, but a lot higher up. I don't know if that matters much at all though.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #105 on: May 09, 2014, 02:34:14 pm »
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so what's the second number mean? You know, those possibly negative numbers next to each player's name that doesn't go beyond a magnitude of 10.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #106 on: May 09, 2014, 02:36:29 pm »
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Not sure I understand the rankings.  just for one quick comparison, I am 4 levels above Adam Horton, who is above me in this ranking.  (I see it would not affect my actual tier, just curious here)
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #107 on: May 09, 2014, 02:36:40 pm »
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so what's the second number mean? You know, those possibly negative numbers next to each player's name that doesn't go beyond a magnitude of 10.

It is your offset from GMT
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #108 on: May 09, 2014, 02:47:25 pm »
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Not sure I understand the rankings.  just for one quick comparison, I am 4 levels above Adam Horton, who is above me in this ranking.  (I see it would not affect my actual tier, just curious here)
These are the rankings as they were a month ago. Things have changed a lot within a month.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #109 on: May 09, 2014, 03:09:31 pm »
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Not sure I understand the rankings.  just for one quick comparison, I am 4 levels above Adam Horton, who is above me in this ranking.  (I see it would not affect my actual tier, just curious here)
These are the rankings as they were a month ago. Things have changed a lot within a month.

Oh, OK, just saw Stef's other post on page 4.  Clear now.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #110 on: May 09, 2014, 03:11:13 pm »
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Seems okay to me.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #111 on: May 09, 2014, 05:06:11 pm »
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Looks good to me.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #112 on: May 09, 2014, 06:10:42 pm »
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goko username: bama
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #113 on: May 09, 2014, 06:23:29 pm »
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What is DG doing in division D? He had a killer gokodom performance. His isotropish score is apparently 47.37±34.60, which I guess means he plays very well but not very often? I think he should be a division above me, not a division below me.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #114 on: May 09, 2014, 06:36:07 pm »
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Not sure I understand the rankings.  just for one quick comparison, I am 4 levels above Adam Horton, who is above me in this ranking.  (I see it would not affect my actual tier, just curious here)

If you're looking for a reason for my recent drop in Pro Rating, it's because almost all of the pro games I've played in the past month have been against Nick (dethwing) who is pretty vastly underrated and has been beating me quite a lot recently -- I suspect he's gotten much better recently.

It also might have something to do with the fact that I don't have a problem just resigning pro games before turn 1 to make things easier on my stream, or something like that.

Ratings aren't important to me, so I don't make any effort to inflate mine. I'd say an iso-level of about 40 is where I'd sit if I cared about my rating, but I don't. I just want to play the game and get better at it.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #115 on: May 09, 2014, 06:45:19 pm »
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Not sure I understand the rankings.  just for one quick comparison, I am 4 levels above Adam Horton, who is above me in this ranking.  (I see it would not affect my actual tier, just curious here)

If you're looking for a reason for my recent drop in Pro Rating, it's because almost all of the pro games I've played in the past month have been against Nick (dethwing) who is pretty vastly underrated and has been beating me quite a lot recently -- I suspect he's gotten much better recently.

It also might have something to do with the fact that I don't have a problem just resigning pro games before turn 1 to make things easier on my stream, or something like that.

Ratings aren't important to me, so I don't make any effort to inflate mine. I'd say an iso-level of about 40 is where I'd sit if I cared about my rating, but I don't. I just want to play the game and get better at it.

Sorry, I didn't mean to single you out.  There are plenty of other examples. (See MarkowKette, same discrepancy and he's a division above me in the League even)  I just knew your rating was lower than mine already because I checked the leaderboard during the AI match the other day.  Now that I know he's going by the older leaderboard, there's no issue.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #116 on: May 09, 2014, 08:41:24 pm »
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What is DG doing in division D? He had a killer gokodom performance. His isotropish score is apparently 47.37±34.60, which I guess means he plays very well but not very often? I think he should be a division above me, not a division below me.

My rating has been that way for a long time, even going back to isodoms when isotropic was still going. The league will sort itself out over time.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #117 on: May 09, 2014, 11:08:15 pm »
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What is DG doing in division D? He had a killer gokodom performance. His isotropish score is apparently 47.37±34.60, which I guess means he plays very well but not very often? I think he should be a division above me, not a division below me.

My rating has been that way for a long time, even going back to isodoms when isotropic was still going. The league will sort itself out over time.

yes, even the isotropish leaderboard is pretty swingy.
I dropped from iso level 45 to level 35 within a couple of hours.
The average is probably somewhere in the middle.
Seeding at the beginning has to come from something, and like you said
the league will balance itself.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #118 on: May 09, 2014, 11:57:15 pm »
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yes, even the isotropish leaderboard is pretty swingy.
I dropped from iso level 45 to level 35 within a couple of hours.
The average is probably somewhere in the middle.
Seeding at the beginning has to come from something, and like you said
the league will balance itself.

You need to look at the full leaderboard. It is much less swingy. The default leaderboard you normally see is the "games in the last month" board, which is much more swingy (and also tracks goko better, actually).

I'm happy with my ranking. I basically almost always lose against people 2 divisions up, sometimes win against people 1 division up, and am confident I can be competitive within my division so that's a good sign.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #119 on: May 09, 2014, 11:59:05 pm »
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Also, can we pin the division seedings in it's own thread? Page 4 of the signups is kind of a random place to have them, even if it is tentative.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #120 on: May 10, 2014, 12:11:12 am »
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You need to look at the full leaderboard. It is much less swingy. The default leaderboard you normally see is the "games in the last month" board, which is much more swingy (and also tracks goko better, actually).

Your isotropish level is not any different between full or partial leaderboard. The partial leaderboard only displays players who have played at least one eligible game in the last month, both boards use the same collection of games for the skill measurement.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #121 on: May 10, 2014, 12:14:00 am »
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I'll spend ages regretting it if I'm too pansy to sign up...

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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #122 on: May 10, 2014, 02:43:58 am »
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You need to look at the full leaderboard. It is much less swingy. The default leaderboard you normally see is the "games in the last month" board, which is much more swingy (and also tracks goko better, actually).

Your isotropish level is not any different between full or partial leaderboard. The partial leaderboard only displays players who have played at least one eligible game in the last month, both boards use the same collection of games for the skill measurement.

Ah ok. I didn't catch that before. I just noticed my position is a lot different between the two, but I guess in that case relative position would be the same.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #123 on: May 10, 2014, 03:26:11 am »
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Also, can we pin the division seedings in it's own thread? Page 4 of the signups is kind of a random place to have them, even if it is tentative.
It is not the final seeding. Stef just wanted to answer a question.
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Re: Signups Season 1
« Reply #124 on: May 10, 2014, 04:50:07 am »
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I think mine looks reasonable. I was ridiculously low before relative to my actual ability (not trying to brag or say I should be higher or anything, just I hadn't played online ranked in a while), so going up 2.3K ratings seems pretty reasonable.
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