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[Witherweaver]

So I'm guessing a lot of talking is going to go on in the various QTs.  I have a hard time figuring out how this is going to go.

Any thoughts on claiming a role without the context of your color?

how many QTs do you have?

Not sure whether or not I should answer that.  I am in one QT, possibly others.  Things that were said in there indicated that some people are in more than one. 

[Voltaire]

vote: axxle

[EgorK]

So I assume there are 8 colors? (black is mentioned and 7 from rainbow)

[Witherweaver]

So I assume there are 8 colors? (black is mentioned and 7 from rainbow)

I have a hunch that this is not the case.  Firstly, I think we have "teams" based on color.  Twelve players, so if teams are 4 players there are 3 colors, 3  players there are 4 colors, 2 players there are 6.  I tend to think the teams are of the same size or else one would probably have an advantage.

It's possible there is no "black" team.  It seems weird to be randomly selected to die at the end of the game.  So this leads me to a few possible ideas:

1) Maybe lynching turns people black.  Maybe also some people have a "kill shot" that drains the color or something.. so if you get targeted you turn black.  It says that after four days, if you're colored black, then you die.  So I imagine there has to be a way for people to turn black, so at the very least I imagine that's what lynching does.

I guess if you can turn people black, you might be able to "paint" them, and convert them to your "team". So maybe if you're black you're still around but you have no ties to your previous color, but someone can paint you.  Or maybe anyone can be painted, not just black players. 

2) The above idea may not hold, because the universal QT does say "This QT doesn't close, but you can't talk in it after you have died."  That could be standard protocol, or it could mean dying works as normal (you get lynched you die), and painting black is a different kind of special ability?

3) Color changing could be something random and not caused by particular day/night actions from players, or some combination of both.

Mod: Can you clarify "Black-aligned players will die the following day."?  Is "following" meaning at the end of the game, after 4 days and 4 nights?  Or following each night?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Uh. First time in two mafia games at once!
I've been checking the qt's a fair amount, but I want to see more action here!

[Archetype]

Vote Count 1.0

Axxle (1) Voltaire
mail-mi (4) Jorbles, sudgy, chairs, Axxle
jorbles (1) mail-mi
shraeye (1) Witherweaver

Not Voting (6) shraeye, EgorK, scott_pilgrim, sudgy, Nik, Ichimaru Gin
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. D1 will end on April 23rd at

[Archetype]

Mod: Can you clarify "Black-aligned players will die the following day."?  Is "following" meaning at the end of the game, after 4 days and 4 nights?  Or following each night?

Following each night.

[Witherweaver]

Hm.. Okay, so something more must be going on.  Or something different.  But color changes probably go on.. There must be a reason for turning black and dying in the morning instead of when you become black.  Maybe they can be saved?  Also, there are two separate night phases, and one resolves completely before the other starts.

Or maybe black players have a way to save themselves by copying a color.

Anyone have any ideas about this?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Well. I can say that I don't have the power to turn people's alignment or anything. My thoughts would be that the players with this power are the only ones to know the specifics--otherwise I think we would have been told more. So unless we are able to get them to talk about what powers they have, we can't know for sure what they can do.

It is clear though that there is some sort of alignment change that is possible. And it makes sense that this power would be something that players would have--as opposed to some random event or something, but do you think that's a possibility?

[Witherweaver]

Well. I can say that I don't have the power to turn people's alignment or anything. My thoughts would be that the players with this power are the only ones to know the specifics--otherwise I think we would have been told more. So unless we are able to get them to talk about what powers they have, we can't know for sure what they can do.

It is clear though that there is some sort of alignment change that is possible. And it makes sense that this power would be something that players would have--as opposed to some random event or something, but do you think that's a possibility?

I think random changing and player action changing are both possible, as well as a combination of them.

[mail-mi]

vote:  Witherweaver

[Voltaire]

vote:  Witherweaver

vote: mail-mi for voting someone who is trying to figure out/play the game.

[Axxle]

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

[Jorbles]

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

Please define scum. I am unsure how scum is defined this game.

[Jorbles]

Also, unvote.

[Witherweaver]

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

You just want a Witherweaver Wagon for the alliteration of it.

[Axxle]

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

Please define scum. I am unsure how scum is defined this game.

he is associated with the black color in some way

[scott_pilgrim]

It would have been hilarious if Jorbles had made a QT with all but one person in it.  Or maybe he did, and I was that person...

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

You just want a Witherweaver Wagon for the alliteration of it.

Well, why wouldn't we want a Witherweaver wagon?

[Witherweaver]

It would have been hilarious if Jorbles had made a QT with all but one person in it.  Or maybe he did, and I was that person...

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

You just want a Witherweaver Wagon for the alliteration of it.

Well, why wouldn't we want a Witherweaver wagon?

Well, Witherweaver is wonderful.  Whence without him we would be in woe.

[Witherweaver]

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

Please define scum. I am unsure how scum is defined this game.

he is associated with the black color in some way

I find this curious.  But I'm not.  I'm trying to figure out what the black color means.

[Jorbles]

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

Please define scum. I am unsure how scum is defined this game.

he is associated with the black color in some way

I find this curious.  But I'm not.  I'm trying to figure out what the black color means.

My understanding from the front page was that the black color was associated with death/imminent death, not a factional coloring.

[Jorbles]

- Black-aligned players will die the following day.

[Witherweaver]

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

Please define scum. I am unsure how scum is defined this game.

he is associated with the black color in some way

I find this curious.  But I'm not.  I'm trying to figure out what the black color means.

My understanding from the front page was that the black color was associated with death/imminent death, not a factional coloring.

Yes, I realize that.  But how to people become black?  Is it from night kills?  Lynching?  Random?

[chairs]

vote:  Witherweaver

I have mod confirmation that he's scum.

Please define scum. I am unsure how scum is defined this game.

he is associated with the black color in some way

I find this curious.  But I'm not.  I'm trying to figure out what the black color means.

My understanding from the front page was that the black color was associated with death/imminent death, not a factional coloring.

Yes, I realize that.  But how to people become black?  Is it from night kills?  Lynching?  Random?

Perhaps it's from the mod picking a random person while singing a karaoke version of "Paint it Black"?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Well (admitting I have a color here), from what I understand, each color's wincon is different. But at the same time, it seems like there is a separate faction with the power to turn people black--thereby killing them on a subsequent day.

Claiming would be interesting here. Some people have already done so in various qt's (mostly in the "everyone" one I think). Barring knowing who your allies are, it seems like hunting for the scum who can kill/blacken people might be a good idea. There's just so little to go on. . .