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[A Drowned Kernel]

Voltaire/Faust seems like the most likely possibility, as I don't think Voltaire/shraeye is realistic. As I said, he sets it up as me, shraeye and faust, but keeps faust kind of to the side.

[Voltaire]

Voltaire/Faust seems like the most likely possibility, as I don't think Voltaire/shraeye is realistic. As I said, he sets it up as me, shraeye and faust, but keeps faust kind of to the side.

1. Go re-read me today. This is factually inaccurate.
2. Knowing I needed to eliminate someone in determining who I wanted to vote for today, I decided on faust. You can read the posts where I decide this.

[faust]

Hmmm... ADK's latest posts make him seem scummy as hell. He does no at all reason for a Voltaire lynch, just stating that he's so so sure. So until we get an explanation where this read comes from, vote: ADK

[faust]

It's kind of sad that our IC left us, really.

Request a prod on Ichimaru.

[faust]

A Drowned Kernel reread, again with scores because I like them.

#75 light buddying. +1
#95 strange unvote "I suppose we're doing serious votes" +1
#119 doesn't say anythin on what unvotes mean. I would guess that scum would actually make something up. So town points. -2
#134 shraeye is ADK's strongest town read. Notable.
#140/#142 empty posts. +1
#183 more empty posting. +1
#246 mistakes Ichi for DeDe. If we didn't know that they are both town, that could have been helpful, but this way...
#250 spreading suspicion over basically all other players. +1
#304 does not want to lynch either mcmc or shraeye. Since mcmc is conf!town, and shraeye a town read, I think of this as townie move. -2
#422 promises a reread which he never does +1
#424 against claiming, saying "having both PRs at LyLo is auto-win". This is plain wrong. +1
#534 is "super confident" that Voltaire is scum. Why? +1
#616 still sure about Voltaire, still no explanation. +2
#619 this really reads like "this is the mislynch I want to push, I haven't really thought about other players being scum. +2

So what do we get...? scumscore: 48. add +5 for general lurkiness, and we get 53, which is quite decent. These numbers are obviously a little flawed, but in the end I think ADK is a better lynch than Voltaire today.

[faust]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

[Nik]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

Good idea.
Unvote.

[Nik]

Gah, no, we have to pick something. vote: shraeye. That's L-1 on shraeye (which Nik didn't announce - Nik, it's bad form not to announce that the next vote will hammer/lynch someone).

If you want to vote shraeye, don't hammer him (or we lynch you tomorrow for being obv!scum). State intent to hammer, and then shraeye gets a chance to claim.

What is meant by 'hammer' and 'L-1?'

Why does Nik have to ask about L-1 again, after asking *twice* on day 1:

In that case I will unvote

The way Ichi goes back and forth with putting mcmc at L-1 is most interesting.

Umm...I'm sorry, what does L-1 mean? Also, what does Ichi have to do with me unvoting?

Again, what does L-1 mean?

It means that somebody is 1 vote away from being locked in as the lynch.  As soon as somebody reaches 5 votes (in general, it is the smallest integer that is > half the townsize), the day is over, although a brief twilight-period may exist where the thread is still open, and we can still post.  But the lynch has been decided at that point.

Plus hammering was talked about multiple times on day 1.

unvote

Ah shit.

Nik, explanation? 'Cause this makes you look like 100% coached scum.

Because I didn't really understand Sgraeye's explanation, and he first time it wasn't answered.

I made a typo. I meant Shraeye, not Sgraeye.

[Witherweaver]

unvote

Ah shit.

Nik, explanation? 'Cause this makes you look like 100% coached scum.

Because I didn't really understand Sgraeye's explanation, and he first time it wasn't answered.

How could you possibly not understand it?  Seems straightforward:

It means that somebody is 1 vote away from being locked in as the lynch.  As soon as somebody reaches 5 votes (in general, it is the smallest integer that is > half the townsize), the day is over, although a brief twilight-period may exist where the thread is still open, and we can still post.  But the lynch has been decided at that point.

And if you didn't understand it, why didn't you ask for clarity then?

[Ichimaru Gin]

It's kind of sad that our IC left us, really.

Request a prod on Ichimaru.

I admit that I should be more engaged, but I haven't even been gone 24 hours.
I should be back soon with more to say.

[Voltaire]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

I would love it if scum outed themselves!

It's kind of sad that our IC left us, really.

Request a prod on Ichimaru.

And this is bizarre. I am uneasy as hell about faust again.

I really hate that, at least in my eyes and I have to think at least objectively, one town player is playing so so so damn scummy.

[Voltaire]

Interesting that our three scum-reads are the only ones not voting.

It's kind of sad that our IC left us, really.

Request a prod on Ichimaru.

I mean, it was barely over 12 hours.

[Witherweaver]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

I would love it if scum outed themselves!

It's kind of sad that our IC left us, really.

Request a prod on Ichimaru.

And this is bizarre. I am uneasy as hell about faust again.

I really hate that, at least in my eyes and I have to think at least objectively, one town player is playing so so so damn scummy.

I don't know, he posted recently but it's not like he said a whole lot , and he's the one person everyone knows is town, so we don't have to question his motives.

[Voltaire]

I mean it's bizarre that faust wasn't aware IG has been posting/contributing, and requested a prod less than 24 hours after he'd been gone.

[faust]

It's kind of sad that our IC left us, really.

Request a prod on Ichimaru.

I admit that I should be more engaged, but I haven't even been gone 24 hours.
I should be back soon with more to say.

Yes, sorry, uh, somehow I overlooked all of your posts until one 2 days earlier... don't know how that happened. Sorry.

[faust]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

I would love it if scum outed themselves!

I could believe that scum!ADK could see himself as the only viable alternative to shraeye and thus quickhammer hoping to hit the Cop or something like that. Better to lynch ADK right away.

[Voltaire]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

I would love it if scum outed themselves!

I could believe that scum!ADK could see himself as the only viable alternative to shraeye and thus quickhammer hoping to hit the Cop or something like that. Better to lynch ADK right away.

That's only if we're 100% certain on ADK, which I'm not. Scum quickhammering the cop would still out scum, which is the same as if the cop had caught someone, a trade I'm fine with. Though it's not important enough either way really.

[Witherweaver]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

I would love it if scum outed themselves!

I could believe that scum!ADK could see himself as the only viable alternative to shraeye and thus quickhammer hoping to hit the Cop or something like that. Better to lynch ADK right away.

Of course, the hypothetical where it's scum ADK and scum Shraeye would mean ADK couldn't justify an unannounced hammer.  He could argue "why would I hammer my own partner," but he wouldn't be able to justify doing it without warning.

At any rate, Shraeye isn't my top lynch (though certainly not out of suspicion), and I would prefer not to rush this day, especially since we haven't had full participation.  We have until.. Tuesday?  So let's at least wait until tomorrow to start putting people at L-1?

[faust]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

I would love it if scum outed themselves!

I could believe that scum!ADK could see himself as the only viable alternative to shraeye and thus quickhammer hoping to hit the Cop or something like that. Better to lynch ADK right away.

Of course, the hypothetical where it's scum ADK and scum Shraeye would mean ADK couldn't justify an unannounced hammer.  He could argue "why would I hammer my own partner," but he wouldn't be able to justify doing it without warning.

At any rate, Shraeye isn't my top lynch (though certainly not out of suspicion), and I would prefer not to rush this day, especially since we haven't had full participation.  We have until.. Tuesday?  So let's at least wait until tomorrow to start putting people at L-1?

Remember that we also need some time for potential claims.

[Voltaire]

Excatly.

[Witherweaver]

Also, can someone unvote shraeye? We don't want a scum quickhammer here...

I would love it if scum outed themselves!

I could believe that scum!ADK could see himself as the only viable alternative to shraeye and thus quickhammer hoping to hit the Cop or something like that. Better to lynch ADK right away.

Of course, the hypothetical where it's scum ADK and scum Shraeye would mean ADK couldn't justify an unannounced hammer.  He could argue "why would I hammer my own partner," but he wouldn't be able to justify doing it without warning.

At any rate, Shraeye isn't my top lynch (though certainly not out of suspicion), and I would prefer not to rush this day, especially since we haven't had full participation.  We have until.. Tuesday?  So let's at least wait until tomorrow to start putting people at L-1?

Remember that we also need some time for potential claims.

True, so we should push for that tomorrow.

[Teproc]

Vote Count 2.4:

A Drowned Kernel (2) : Witherweaver, faust
shraeye (1): Ichimaru Gin

Not Voting (4): A Drowned Kernel, shraeye, Voltaire, Nik

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 2 ends at 4:00 p.m. on April 8, 2014 (~48 hours from now).

[Ichimaru Gin]

Ok unvote. I would vote ADK, but I can see the reasoning behind not putting people at L-1 right now.
Really, I am happy to lynch one of our three major scumreads  today.
Although Nik has seemed pretty scummy as well.
I'll probably die tonight, the cop will claim tomorrow and there should be enough information for POE.

[faust]

Ok unvote. I would vote ADK, but I can see the reasoning behind not putting people at L-1 right now.
Really, I am happy to lynch one of our three major scumreads  today.
Although Nik has seemed pretty scummy as well.
I'll probably die tonight, the cop will claim tomorrow and there should be enough information for POE.

I think if someone else states intent to vote ADK, we can count that as a virtual intent to hammer.

I feel quite good about this lynch. My alternatives would be Voltaire or Nik, but ADK is the scummiest of them.

[Voltaire]

I feel quite good about this lynch. My alternatives would be Voltaire or Nik, but ADK is the scummiest of them.

Can you run your why-not-shraeye case by me one more time?

Also, we do need to be aware scum will counterclaim the cop tomorrow if we lynch wrong tonight, since they can safely do so. That's a 50/50 for us, but better than 0% for them.