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Defeated by banker bot.
« on: March 10, 2014, 07:06:32 am »
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Chapel, Bishop, Gardens, Monument, Quarry, Festival, Mint, Rabble, King's Court, Peddler
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20140310/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1394447645322.txt

Hi on this game i keep it simple but banker bot defeats me, while I try to build a steady lead while banker bot creates a megaturn engine which in one turn buys a colony and five 4vp gardens and festival, ending game next turn by emptying province pile.

What should I do differently on this board?
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Re: Defeated by banker bot.
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 07:22:07 am »
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7 VP per turn is not enough here.
You should either aim for megaturn when you buy all the provinces or build an engine where you KC-mint platinums and than KC-Bishop them. Rabble could also be good here agains Banker Bot.
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Re: Defeated by banker bot.
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 07:35:47 am »
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7 VP per turn is not enough here.
You should either aim for megaturn when you buy all the provinces or build an engine where you KC-mint platinums and than KC-Bishop them. Rabble could also be good here agains Banker Bot.

Its 10vp/turn. 3 for monument, 3 for bishop and 4 for trashing province.
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Re: Defeated by banker bot.
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 08:45:33 am »
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Once you have chapel and quarry all you need is another quarry and the chapel to do its job. You can start buying in your key cards that are the festivals, peddler, king's court, rabble. The monuments don't need to come early since a couple of early points is less important than deck development.
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Re: Defeated by banker bot.
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 10:43:46 am »
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What should I do differently on this board?

Hi luser,

Your draws are pretty unfortunate here. Not drawing your chapel on t3/4 is always a huge setback.
However, your plays could still be improved.

First of all, there is this point: The 'golden deck' you eventually built (2 King's Courts, Monument, Bishop, Provice) scores 10 points per turn, without ever getting worse. In 'your average game of dominion' that is a lot, easily enough to win. However, this here isn't an average game. You can score so much because there are some strong cards in the kingdom, and your opponents can use them too.

Just adding more king's courts, monuments and/or bishops would not help your deck at all: they would just sit there in your library. What you really need is cards that draw more cards. You could add any number of Peddlers and some Rabbles.

Comments on your actual game: try to focus more on cleaning up your deck. You want to trash as many cards as possible, and the usual danger of trashing too much is almost completey nullified by the quarry you already have. Cards like Monument and Bishop get in the way of playing a big chapel.
After that, you need a festival so you can start adding Peddlers and King's Courts.
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Re: Defeated by banker bot.
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2014, 01:46:33 pm »
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I was not completely serious here, I tried how quickly I could create a kc-possession proof deck a real game would probably end about turn 10 on estate chapels and festivals.
I was surprised how banker bot turns created engine which is hilarious.

This game happened because of turn 4

Banker Bot   plays 5 Copper
Banker Bot   buys Mint
Banker Bot   trashes Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper
Banker Bot   gains Mint
Banker Bot   draws Copper, Quarry
Banker Bot   shuffles deck
Banker Bot   draws Estate, Silver, Mint

Which is used to gain 4 quarries.

As quaries cause him not hitting 6 for gold he buys king's court instead

Banker Bot   plays Mint
Banker Bot   reveals Quarry
Banker Bot   gains Quarry
Banker Bot   plays Quarry
Banker Bot   plays Quarry
Banker Bot   plays 1 Silver
Banker Bot   buys King's Court
Banker Bot   gains King's Court
Banker Bot   shuffles deck
Banker Bot   draws Silver, Quarry, Copper, Quarry, Quarry

while on next turn he gets gold.

This allows him to get kc-kc-rabble at turn 14 where he buys 4 kings courts as they are free.
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