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Least favorite card?
« on: March 06, 2014, 11:05:21 pm »
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There's probably a thread on this already, if so maybe they can be merged?

I hate King's Court, Possession (really don't like Alchemy in general), Rebuild.  Baron is annoying too (you can get too unlucky right off the bat).
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 11:06:53 pm »
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The Four Horsemen: Rebuild, Governor, Tournament, Margrave.  Of those, I probably like Tournament the most and Rebuild the least.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 11:18:39 pm »
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Why Margrave?

I love King's Court.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2014, 11:24:17 pm »
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Why Margrave?

I love King's Court.

For one, the additional draw before discard makes it take longer to resolve (not as bad as Torturer, but with Torturer there's at least an interesting choice to be made) and it would have been pretty good already without the attack.  I don't know; I just find it to be a very frustrating card to play and get hit by.  It feels strong for the wrong reasons.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2014, 11:42:18 pm »
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There's a few I really dislike, mainly cards which any moderately good player can pick, play a super boring deck, and still win a significant proportion (like 35-40%) of the time against much better (although not top) players. Things like Rebuild, Hunting Party and perhaps one or two others fit into this category.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014, 12:06:42 am »
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I used to hate a lot of cards. But now I only really dislike Rebuild, Minion and Tournament.  Goons is fun, Possession has too many strange interactions and I find that really interesting, even if can be a bit annoying. Hunting Party is good, but not annoying. Oh yeah, and Black Market, but I don't have it so I almost never play with it.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014, 12:18:47 am »
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Two cards I hate more than any others: Tournament, Possesion.
After that would come King's Court and Rebuild.

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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 12:27:23 am »
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Black Market/Tournament probably.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2014, 12:42:00 am »
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1: Torturer (Swingy and the game can easily be decided early but still need a lot of miserable playing out unless you want to resign)
2: Tournament (Really, really swingy)
3: Rebuild (Very frequently makes most of the rest of the board almost irrelevant)
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 12:44:48 am »
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Hamlet. It's just too annoying to play with, both IRL and Goko. And it's overrated.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2014, 12:52:30 am »
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Rebuild and familiar. And honestly, compared to rebuild, familiar is all fun and games.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2014, 02:24:23 am »
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Goons, because I don't like discard attacks (Minion, Urchin and Cutpurse are fine, because a 4-card hand is still pretty good) and Goons is so powerful that it's pretty much always a must-buy. According to CouncilRoom, it also happens to be the only card whose "win rate given avail" for me was less than 1 (and I wouldn't be surprised if it still was).
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2014, 06:21:33 am »
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masquerade, masquerade, masquerade, masquerade, masquerade and possession. rebuild also isn't that great, though far not as bad
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2014, 06:27:12 am »
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I don't like rebuild, tournament and highway. I often enjoy kings court, but I don't like when it is too impactful and leads to imbalanced games.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2014, 06:38:25 am »
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Why Highway?
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2014, 06:48:48 am »
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What's wrong with King's Court?
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2014, 06:51:51 am »
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What's wrong with King's Court?
Drawing two of them with Stables, Moneylender and Estate.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2014, 07:36:59 am »
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I'm doing the same thing in the german forums with two systems: A and B.
Way less effectiv as the lists from Qvist, but still...

The cards I don't like:
1) Golem
2) Possession
3) Goons
4) Pirate Ship
5) Ghost Ship

My lists lead to the result, that these are the most hated cards (without Guilds, and not so sure about the Dark Ages cards, because I could not use so many lists for them yet):
1) Knights
2) Rebuild
3) Swindler
4) Vagrant
5) Smuggler
6) Sea Hag
7) Possession
8) Urchin/Mercenary
9) Graverobber
10) Thief
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2014, 08:49:12 am »
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Why Vagrant?
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2014, 09:14:13 am »
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Why Vagrant?
I think because it is boring. But as I said, the Dark Ages cards are not so well ranked yet.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2014, 09:47:26 am »
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I really dislike Jack of All Trades.  I also dislike Council Room.  I'm not sure why.. but I hate playing it, because my opponent gets a card.  And I hate playing against it, because my opponent gets four cards.  I think I grew a strong dislike of it when playing the base set adventures, because Council Room/Money seemed like the best strategy almost all the time that it was out.  And I generally don't like money decks. Okay not good reasons, but I just don't like it. 
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2014, 09:49:52 am »
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Oh, and because of the Goko interface, I hate Urchin.  Because if you want to use it without trashing it for a Mercenary, Goko keeps annoying with questions about trashing it. 
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2014, 09:59:52 am »
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There's a few I really dislike, mainly cards which any moderately good player can pick, play a super boring deck, and still win a significant proportion (like 35-40%) of the time against much better (although not top) players. Things like Rebuild, Hunting Party and perhaps one or two others fit into this category.

That reminds me of this Extra Credits episode:

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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2014, 01:52:29 pm »
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Oh, and because of the Goko interface, I hate Urchin.  Because if you want to use it without trashing it for a Mercenary, Goko keeps annoying with questions about trashing it.
You said it, although that's not inherently Urchin's fault. What's really annoying is when the game is decided by one person getting Mercenary considerably earlier than another player, considering that it's a counter to itself. I guess the solution to that is to do the Urchin/Urchin/Urchin opening that SCSN keeps hyping up.

Probably my least favourite card is Swindler. Two players open with it, but one keeps hitting Estates and Provinces while the other hits Coppers and turns Labs into Counting Houses. Swingler's saving grace is its ability to bring Scouts into play.

I don't care much for Peddler either. The cost reduction mechanic is compelling, but the freebie nature of Peddler makes it so that you'll pretty much always pick them up at 0 with extra buys, something that tends to happen in your engines anyway. It's not usually strategically deep unless getting the Peddlers still requires some investment, either due to lack of +buy or lack of +1 actions besides Peddler.
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Re: Least favorite card?
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2014, 02:09:51 pm »
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What's wrong with King's Court?
Drawing two of them with Stables, Moneylender and Estate.

If you bought Stables and Moneylender, you've dug your own grave.

I used to hate Governor and Goons, but I've come around. I despise Minion because the games where it skips all your bad hands do not nearly outweigh the ones where it skips your good hands. It's just so maddening.
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