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Good Forum Game Candidates?
« on: February 21, 2014, 06:44:33 am »

I enjoy forum games a lot, they give me the chance to do some actual boardgaming without being constrained to a certain time and place.

Which popular games out there would make for a good forum game?

Ideally the game would be structured in a way where players can take a complete turn and wait for their turn to come around, otherwise too much time is spent waiting. Not that games like that won't work, I just think they ask too much activity from the players involved. Coops tend to do well as a forum game, because if some player is unable or unwilling to do a lot of work, others can easily fill that gap.

How about Nations? Would it be too interactive? I'm curious about this game.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 02:37:04 pm »

I don't think coops work particularily well as PBF, because you need to need to check with everyone before every move.

Nations doesn't require any other players to act during your turn i think, but there are very many short turns, so it might not be ideal.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 03:13:18 pm »

Anyone want to try Sleuth or Code 777?
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 03:28:16 pm »

Anyone want to try Sleuth or Code 777?
I would play Sleuth.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014, 11:48:34 am »

I'd be interested in Nations, though I've not played it before.  I'm thinking of starting up a Puerto Rico game sometime soon...
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2014, 10:08:13 am »

I'm thinking of starting up a Puerto Rico game sometime soon...
I'm (sort of not really because nothing is happening and we've had 5 million replacements) already modding one.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2014, 10:13:51 am »

I'm thinking of starting up a Puerto Rico game sometime soon...
I'm (sort of not really because nothing is happening and we've had 5 million replacements) already modding one.

Yeah, I know.  I was kinda hoping to get in on the start of a new one.  Nice thing about Puerto Rico is the mod can participate thanks to forum dice rolling.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2014, 10:17:17 am »

...so you don't want to replace in?
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2014, 10:20:33 am »

Oh... well I'd happily do that too if you're in need!  Don't we have a replacements thread?  We totally need one.
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 04:20:56 pm »

I bet Monopoly works pretty well.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2014, 07:02:11 pm »

Would anyone be interested in playing The Doomed Pilgrim with me?

It's a role-playing game specifically designed for forum play; I would play the pilgrim, and, well, everyone else would try to keep me from reaching my destination. There's rules and stuff.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2014, 07:32:09 pm »

As mentioned in the Hanabi thread, pretty much he only forum game I'd be interested in would be Hanabi, because I think playing it in PbF would actually add to the experience in a way, whereas all the other games... I don't know, it seems like a hassle and a pain to keep up with to me.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2014, 12:50:53 pm »

I would like to play Hanabi, too.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2014, 10:36:46 am »

Would Risk work? I haven't played it in probably 10 years so I don't remember the exact gameplay but I do remember that conquering the world is an awesome feeling.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2014, 12:12:43 pm »

Would Risk work? I haven't played it in probably 10 years so I don't remember the exact gameplay but I do remember that conquering the world is an awesome feeling.

As someone who played Risk with his friends just about every weekend for five years, Risk is actually a terrible game! Diplomacy is strictly superior, and we do play that on Forum Games.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2014, 12:16:29 pm »

Good to know, I'll check it out!
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2014, 12:17:42 pm »

Diplomacy is strictly superior

Edge cases?
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2014, 12:20:25 pm »

Diplomacy is strictly superior

Edge cases?

I mean, if you want the success of your masterly crafted plan to come down to rolling three dice 100 times, then Risk is better.

I made my own Risk boards. I have a Lost board, a University of Michigan board, a China board. I made three "made-up fantastical realm" boards. I made a Mushroom Kingdom board and a Hyrule board. I added tons and tons of rules. I created a morale system, and items, and fortresses.

But it all comes down to those damn dice.
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2014, 12:59:13 pm »

Have you played Risk: Legacy?
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2014, 01:01:02 pm »

Have you played Risk: Legacy?

I think I half-played it once. Of the official Risk boards, the Lord of the Rings Trilogy Edition board is pretty fun, although it is super biased in favor of defensive strategies.
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2014, 05:57:05 am »

Have you played Risk: Legacy?

I think I half-played it once. Of the official Risk boards, the Lord of the Rings Trilogy Edition board is pretty fun, although it is super biased in favor of defensive strategies.
Which means the elves always win?
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2014, 12:32:09 pm »

Would I be able to run hanabi from a spoilered card list that's common to everyone?

Ill run it but I worry that if it takes mod intervention every move I'd slow the game down too much.
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2014, 01:05:03 am »

Would I be able to run hanabi from a spoilered card list that's common to everyone?

Ill run it but I worry that if it takes mod intervention every move I'd slow the game down too much.

I would make a QT for each player that everyone has access to but them.  Other than that, I really don't know... drawing from the deck does get rather complicated.  I suppose a spoilered list could work.  Maybe number every card in the list so you can keep track of how far down you would go to see the next card.  Otherwise, it would be too easy to accidentally scroll over the wrong entry.
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2014, 01:30:40 am »

I'm really surprised there's no service to host a deck of arbitrary cards somewhere. At least I couldn't find any last I checked.
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2014, 11:17:56 am »

I'm really surprised there's no service to host a deck of arbitrary cards somewhere. At least I couldn't find any last I checked.

What sort of specs would you want to look for?
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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2014, 11:39:57 am »

When I hosted Hanabi, I had a complicated system of spreadsheets set up.  I had a "Master" spreadsheet where I manually tracked all the information about the game, and then created four "Player" spreadsheets.  A Player spreadsheet had access to only selected portions of the Master spreadsheet (namely, all public info except their own hand), so I only had to update the Master spreadsheet.  That having been said, updating the Master spreadsheet with every action was somewhat annoying.

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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2014, 04:17:32 pm »

Okay, I made a spreadsheet to allow essentially self-modding Hanabi.  It would be something like the following for each player:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HZg21cXqNjgDWvncrWuamQUwsHgzYwnnmFod-KQWens/edit?usp=sharing

Basically you indicate which Card you play/discard in the appropriate Round #, and it indicates what card you played in the column next to it, and updates your hand for everyone else.  Anyways it'd be up to you guys to moderate the Clue tokens etc.
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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2014, 01:56:14 pm »

Now that I think about it, Hanabi and Sleuth should be relatively easy to program into a play-by-website like TTA.  Hrm....
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2014, 10:22:11 pm »

I will set up Hanabi this weekend.
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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2014, 01:40:22 pm »

I will set up Hanabi this weekend.

Or as soon as I have time this week -- sorry guys.
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« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2014, 10:28:37 am »

How about a nice game of 7 Ages?
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2014, 03:04:20 pm »

Does anyone else think Game of Thrones could work?
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2014, 03:18:10 pm »

Does anyone else think Game of Thrones could work?

I know it's played elsewhere by forum.

I'm going to play it for the first time tonight in person! We only have four players, but after two weeks of finding and failing to get 5-6 people together, we're saying screw it and playing 4 players. If it turns out the internet is right and that makes it wonky/bad, oh well.
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2014, 03:19:45 pm »

Does anyone else think Game of Thrones could work?
In principle it should work. The disadvantage is that in combats other players are involved (support). This is also true for Cosmic Encounter, which worked, so I don't know if this is really an issue.

Btw. I find it interesting that things that are considered modern in board games, namely involving all players at all time either by player-player interaction or by only taking small individual turns is actually bad for playing board games online. For forum games (or other asynchronous online games) the old fashioned approach of every player taking a turn that takes forever is actually better.

Talking about old-fashioned style games; is anyone interested in playing Advanced Civilization?
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2014, 04:56:24 pm »

Does anyone else think Game of Thrones could work?

I know it's played elsewhere by forum.

I'm going to play it for the first time tonight in person! We only have four players, but after two weeks of finding and failing to get 5-6 people together, we're saying screw it and playing 4 players. If it turns out the internet is right and that makes it wonky/bad, oh well.

This might be weird for me to post but I live in Chicago and am down to play Game of Throne's pretty much 100% of the time.
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2014, 05:31:02 pm »

Maybe I heard incorrectly, but I heard that Game of Thrones board game was basically a Diplomacy rip-off? :P Can somebody comment on that? So if you guys like it you should sign up in the Diplomacy thread, we just need two-ish more! Or possibly I could be convinced to play this instead, I do love me some GoT.

More to the point, if it is anything like Diplomacy, I imagine it would work even better on a forum than in person. Although there's a lot of fun to be had with Diplomacy in sneaking off to back rooms and taking shots after every round, it really works better mechanically online...perfect privacy, longer times to wheel and deal and think things through, and nothing to worry about in the logistics of playtime, early eliminations, and so forth. The fact that supports are involved doesn't slow down the game at all, considering that all moves are revealed simultaneously.
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2014, 05:36:44 pm »

It borrows some mechanics from diplomacy but also has a lot more, it's not as "pure" as diplomacy. There's a lot of bidding, simultaneous decision making, etc. There's lots of room for inter-player politics but as certain factions (Stark comes to mind) it's possible to win just by playing the board and not bothering with "diplomacy"
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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2014, 05:38:54 pm »

That's cool. I appreciate the "elegance" of Diplomacy but I love GoT enough that I'd be willing to give it a try. Factional powers are pretty sweet.
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« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2014, 06:02:19 pm »

It's not so much factional powers (although there's a bit of that) as the fact that it's possible to expand your territory unaided if other people make small mistakes, unlike in Diplomacy. And since there are more chokepoints too, you can hold on to that territory by yourself more easily.

IRL, it's also a much shorter game, while scratching a similar itch as Diplomacy.
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« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2014, 06:26:22 pm »

There's also a small random factor, though it's something that effects all players "equally" (in the same sense that attacks do in Dominion)
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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2014, 06:53:12 pm »

Does anyone else think Game of Thrones could work?

I know it's played elsewhere by forum.

I'm going to play it for the first time tonight in person! We only have four players, but after two weeks of finding and failing to get 5-6 people together, we're saying screw it and playing 4 players. If it turns out the internet is right and that makes it wonky/bad, oh well.

This might be weird for me to post but I live in Chicago and am down to play Game of Throne's pretty much 100% of the time.

That's not weird at all. I totally just had the thought "Wait I know gamers in Chicago." Want to play tonight with 4 new players? If so, PM me.
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« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2014, 01:44:30 am »

I'd love it if there were forum games of Die Macher. Die Macher is a classic political Eurogame where 5 players play as 5 German political parties. By planning actions simultaneously, forming temporary coalitions, and trying to look the least corrupt despite the need for money, the players strive to have the most influence over Germany after 7 elections.

I think this would make a great forum game, because several difficult decisions are made simultaneously, because you can negotiate with people during downtime, and because on a forum it won't be ruined by the terrible components in the Valley Games edition.

I'd be willing to mod the game if we can get players for it. Would anyone be interested?
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« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2014, 10:56:09 am »

I'd be interested.  Die Macher always sounded like an interesting game to me.
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2014, 06:54:01 pm »

It's a long time since I last played Macher, but I'm interested. We could even make a Dominion themed version were the votes are about  Dominion topics (e.g. point counter) instead of German politics.
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« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2014, 02:50:27 am »

Awesome. We could at least replace one of the less-memorable issues (like the cranes-and-warehouses one) with "point counters". Are there actually seven divisive issues on this forum we could come up with?

Maybe I should go check the RSP board.

EDIT: why did I do that
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« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2014, 01:06:54 pm »

Are there actually seven divisive issues on this forum we could come up with?
From the top of my head, these are discussed more or less frequently
  • point counter
  • ban certain cards (Tournament, Possession)
  • is it polite to say gg after a bad game (or similar)
  • goko or iso (though that's not that controversial)
  • is Dominion sexist
  • is Scout the worst card
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« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2014, 11:37:58 pm »

Maybe I should go check the RSP board.

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« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2014, 12:52:46 am »

Maybe I should go check the RSP board.

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Re: Good Forum Game Candidates?
« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2014, 06:54:10 am »

zendo!! >:(
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Re: Good Forum Game Candidates?
« Reply #52 on: September 22, 2014, 06:54:42 pm »

zendo!! >:(

Man, I wish.  I find that Zendo truly isn't the same without the pyramids.
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