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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #150 on: September 10, 2014, 09:33:19 am »
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I've suspected 6 and above hasn't been released yet to allow more time for playing with Prince.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #151 on: September 10, 2014, 09:59:04 am »
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I've suspected 6 and above hasn't been released yet to allow more time for playing with Prince.
The votes have been cast ages ago, though.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #152 on: September 10, 2014, 10:15:27 am »
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I've suspected 6 and above hasn't been released yet to allow more time for playing with Prince.
The votes have been cast ages ago, though.

Indeed. And none of the "missing" lists contained any new cards, since Guilds (the only new cards at the time) doesn't have $6+ cards.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #153 on: September 10, 2014, 11:36:25 am »
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Sorry, I try to post the $6, Potion and Prizes lists soon.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #154 on: September 10, 2014, 05:57:29 pm »
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Sorry, I try to post the $6, Potion and Prizes lists soon.

That's great Qvist - looking forward to them!  As silverspawn noted, I did forget to mention the Knights list as well.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #155 on: September 10, 2014, 06:04:50 pm »
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Sorry, I try to post the $6, Potion and Prizes lists soon.
As silverspawn noted, I did forget to mention the Knights list as well.

oops...I see that the 2014 Knights list has already been published in the Forum.  But what I see now is that the 2014 Knights list did not make it onto the website, as it still shows the 2013 ratings.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #156 on: September 14, 2014, 03:59:51 pm »
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i for one got confused because it's not in this post

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #157 on: December 02, 2014, 02:26:49 am »
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I hope this doesn't count as necro but shouldn't this topic be the one stickied instead of the outdated 2013 one?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #158 on: December 02, 2014, 02:37:07 am »
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I hope this doesn't count as necro but shouldn't this topic be the one stickied instead of the outdated 2013 one?

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #159 on: December 02, 2014, 06:51:16 am »
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We're waiting until the new expansion to do another one of these, right?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #160 on: December 02, 2014, 09:42:24 am »
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We're waiting until the new expansion to do another one of these, right?

Sounds good to me. I think we should do it right after release so that we can see how much perceptions change over the next year.

I wonder how much the playtesters will skew the results.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #162 on: December 02, 2014, 12:25:07 pm »
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We're waiting until the new expansion to do another one of these, right?

Sounds good to me. I think we should do it right after release so that we can see how much perceptions change over the next year.

I wonder how much the playtesters will skew the results.

I'll rate everything a 10 to throw off the numbers
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #163 on: December 02, 2014, 12:32:20 pm »
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #164 on: December 02, 2014, 06:14:05 pm »
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We're waiting until the new expansion to do another one of these, right?

Sounds good to me. I think we should do it right after release so that we can see how much perceptions change over the next year.

I wonder how much the playtesters will skew the results.

Can we at least wait like a week after its Goko release to get some feel with the cards  :P
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #165 on: December 03, 2014, 03:44:50 pm »
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We're waiting until the new expansion to do another one of these, right?

Not sure what I should do. If we wait, we have to give also a little bit of time after the new expansion has come out to let everyone gain experience. This means probably late Summer 2015. Not sure if this is worth the wait, especially as we don't know how fast the expansion will come out on Goko.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #166 on: December 03, 2014, 03:53:39 pm »
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We're waiting until the new expansion to do another one of these, right?

Not sure what I should do. If we wait, we have to give also a little bit of time after the new expansion has come out to let everyone gain experience. This means probably late Summer 2015. Not sure if this is worth the wait, especially as we don't know how fast the expansion will come out on Goko.

Guilds was out the same day on Goko, so I'm optimistic there, though obviously there's 400 cards worth of material here rather than the 150 that Guilds has.

I guess the question is, how much utility will we get from another ranking before the new cards come out?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #167 on: December 03, 2014, 03:55:12 pm »
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We're waiting until the new expansion to do another one of these, right?

Not sure what I should do. If we wait, we have to give also a little bit of time after the new expansion has come out to let everyone gain experience. This means probably late Summer 2015. Not sure if this is worth the wait, especially as we don't know how fast the expansion will come out on Goko.

Guilds was out the same day on Goko, so I'm optimistic there, though obviously there's 400 cards worth of material here rather than the 150 that Guilds has.

I guess the question is, how much utility will we get from another ranking before the new cards come out?

Exactly.  Give it a week/month after it comes out on Goko.  By that time, we'll have a much better idea of Guilds cards, and we'll just be randomly guessing on the new ones, which is what always happens anyway.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #168 on: December 03, 2014, 07:03:16 pm »
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We're waiting until the new expansion to do another one of these, right?

Not sure what I should do. If we wait, we have to give also a little bit of time after the new expansion has come out to let everyone gain experience. This means probably late Summer 2015. Not sure if this is worth the wait, especially as we don't know how fast the expansion will come out on Goko.

Guilds was out the same day on Goko, so I'm optimistic there, though obviously there's 400 cards worth of material here rather than the 150 that Guilds has.

I guess the question is, how much utility will we get from another ranking before the new cards come out?

However, Goko got Guilds in advance to work with. Donald has said that they might not get the new set early because Jay worries about leaks, so Goko might not see the cards until we see the cards which means no head start. It took them a month just to implement Prince which they did not know existed until its release.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #169 on: December 03, 2014, 07:49:10 pm »
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However, Goko got Guilds in advance to work with. Donald has said that they might not get the new set early because Jay worries about leaks, so Goko might not see the cards until we see the cards which means no head start. It took them a month just to implement Prince which they did not know existed until its release.
MF (not Goko) would like to get the cards in advance and have the new set online the same day it comes out in stores. I don't know yet if that will happen but it has yet to be ruled out.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #170 on: December 03, 2014, 07:55:53 pm »
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However, Goko got Guilds in advance to work with. Donald has said that they might not get the new set early because Jay worries about leaks, so Goko might not see the cards until we see the cards which means no head start. It took them a month just to implement Prince which they did not know existed until its release.
MF (not Goko) would like to get the cards in advance and have the new set online the same day it comes out in stores. I don't know yet if that will happen but it has yet to be ruled out.

If he's really worried about leakes he could also just tell them all the new concepts rather then actual cards (maybe with a few fake examples).
After you've got that coded it can't be more then a day to implement the actual cards, and perhaps a couple more to test it all.

(ok, that's the last assumption I'll ever make about goko code)
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #171 on: December 03, 2014, 08:23:21 pm »
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That was a joke, right?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #172 on: December 03, 2014, 08:30:05 pm »
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If he's really worried about leakes he could also just tell them all the new concepts rather then actual cards (maybe with a few fake examples).
After you've got that coded it can't be more then a day to implement the actual cards, and perhaps a couple more to test it all.

(ok, that's the last assumption I'll ever make about goko code)
It wouldn't possibly do the trick for the AI. I mean, let's say the set is Intrigue. You explain choose one/two and action-victory/treasure-victory and pass and name a card and cost-modifying. They can get some of the code to handle those things up and running. But that doesn't set them up to have good AI for Pawn or Great Hall or Masquerade or Wishing Well or Bridge.

I don't know if Jay is worried about leaks or not. Goko leaked something, that is where the worry would come from. Jay was displeased. But obv. it's good to have the set come out online the same day. And it's hard to say just what the effect of a leak is, especially a late leak like this would presumably be.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #173 on: December 03, 2014, 08:59:33 pm »
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Goko leaked something, that is where the worry would come from. Jay was displeased. But obv. it's good to have the set come out online the same day. And it's hard to say just what the effect of a leak is, especially a late leak like this would presumably be.
Goko leaked something?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #174 on: December 03, 2014, 09:03:12 pm »
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Goko leaked something, that is where the worry would come from. Jay was displeased. But obv. it's good to have the set come out online the same day. And it's hard to say just what the effect of a leak is, especially a late leak like this would presumably be.
Goko leaked something?

Yup.  Dark Ages cards.  To the beta testers.
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