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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #175 on: December 03, 2014, 09:05:42 pm »
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Personally, given how long we might wait for the new expansion and how much I enjoy the card rankings, I'm fine with us doing an early 2015 ranking before the new set is released and then another afterward. The real reason not to do this is that it would double the workload for Qvist, and I'm pretty sure he has other things to do with his life than entertain us.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #176 on: December 03, 2014, 09:08:02 pm »
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Goko leaked something, that is where the worry would come from. Jay was displeased. But obv. it's good to have the set come out online the same day. And it's hard to say just what the effect of a leak is, especially a late leak like this would presumably be.
Goko leaked something?

Yup.  Dark Ages cards.  To the beta testers.

I thought it was to everybody.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #177 on: December 03, 2014, 09:13:46 pm »
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Goko leaked something, that is where the worry would come from. Jay was displeased. But obv. it's good to have the set come out online the same day. And it's hard to say just what the effect of a leak is, especially a late leak like this would presumably be.
Goko leaked something?

Yup.  Dark Ages cards.  To the beta testers.

I thought it was to everybody.

It wasn't released to the public then, I don't think.  I seem to remember a certain amount of clamor for me to post more screenshots.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #178 on: December 03, 2014, 11:25:27 pm »
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On the topic of the lists, I have to say I'm looking forward to the remaining entries in all the various lists that are still unfinished. I've been compiling all of them and I'm hoping to do some basic data mining to see what I can see.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #179 on: December 04, 2014, 12:14:12 am »
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Goko leaked something, that is where the worry would come from. Jay was displeased. But obv. it's good to have the set come out online the same day. And it's hard to say just what the effect of a leak is, especially a late leak like this would presumably be.
Goko leaked something?

Yah, but it was just a few days before DA officially released. I think it was about 3 days or so before Gen Con or wherever the set was released at.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #180 on: December 04, 2014, 02:22:51 am »
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Goko leaked something, that is where the worry would come from. Jay was displeased. But obv. it's good to have the set come out online the same day. And it's hard to say just what the effect of a leak is, especially a late leak like this would presumably be.
Goko leaked something?

Yah, but it was just a few days before DA officially released. I think it was about 3 days or so before Gen Con or wherever the set was released at.

There had already been previews, which had been early *because* of leak fears.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #181 on: December 04, 2014, 03:07:21 am »
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I guess I'm being super naïve here, but could someone please explain why leaked cards are such a big deal?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #182 on: December 04, 2014, 04:34:00 am »
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I guess I'm being super naïve here, but could someone please explain why leaked cards are such a big deal?

I guess they don't want people to know what is in the set prior to release.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #183 on: December 04, 2014, 08:20:22 am »
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There had already been previews, which had been early *because* of leak fears.
They were just a few days early - they were the week prior to the con, with no overlap, rather than the week leading up to the con, ending the day before the con (cons typically start on Wednesdays or Thursdays). This had been because a publisher had figured, close enough, and let whatever card information out a few days early. So the last couple previews were spoiled.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #184 on: December 04, 2014, 08:48:35 am »
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I guess I'm being super naïve here, but could someone please explain why leaked cards are such a big deal?
It's not so clear how much it matters, depending on how far in advance it is. The smart move is probably to try to keep the sets a secret though. Wizards of the Coast's stance is, that they will drum up interest in a Magic set better themselves, via previews, than via uncontrolled leaks. And they believe this so much that they have sued people over it. I feel like, they have done this math; probably the leaks are actually bad.

It seems better to have information about a set show up right around when people can buy it. They read the spoilers, are excited over the awesome new stuff, and then there's the set, available for purchase. If the leak is way in advance, they aren't maintaining that excitement, and you have no tool for building it back up. A lot of people were buying however much of the Magic set anyway, or were buying that Dominion set anyway, but you know, I can see it having a negative effect. The new set is more exciting if you didn't read the cards 6 months ago, and if you don't buy every Dominion expansion, that could make the difference. Then too, if it's spoiled in advance, people have proxied the cards, simulated the cards, found whatever combos. You don't get to be the person on your block who found whatever obvious trick.

So anyway I personally think a Dominion set would like to be spoiled pretty close to release. If it were say two weeks early, that wouldn't matter much; it would just spoil the previews. The previews seem like a good way to promote the sets though; show up each day and find out about more cool stuff, then talk about it, turn it over in your mind, in manageable chunks. So it's probably better for us if those aren't spoiled either.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #185 on: December 04, 2014, 09:10:06 am »
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Everyone here is speaking about beta-testers. (How) am I able to become a beta-tester for new cards?
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #186 on: December 04, 2014, 09:30:18 am »
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Everyone here is speaking about beta-testers. (How) am I able to become a beta-tester for new cards?
If you are talking about for Dominion Online, in the past they have contacted certain users when they wanted people to test.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #187 on: December 04, 2014, 04:30:25 pm »
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I guess I'm being super naïve here, but could someone please explain why leaked cards are such a big deal?

I guess they don't want people to know what is in the set prior to release.

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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #188 on: December 05, 2014, 08:44:20 am »
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Everyone here is speaking about beta-testers. (How) am I able to become a beta-tester for new cards?

By winning the Dominion Lottery. Thing is, I don't know how to buy tickets for it.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #189 on: August 18, 2015, 04:48:49 pm »
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Is there any reason that the Prizes do not have their own results thread?  2013 had those results posted, and Prizes are listed here as if they were going to have their own thread, but there's nothing there.  I tried googling and got nothing.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #190 on: August 18, 2015, 04:59:12 pm »
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Is there any reason that the Prizes do not have their own results thread?  2013 had those results posted, and Prizes are listed here as if they were going to have their own thread, but there's nothing there.  I tried googling and got nothing.

Qvist never posted them; he's a busy guy.

The order is either Followers > Steed > Princess > Bag > Diadem or Followers > Princess > Steed > Bag > Diadem depending on how right the voters were when this was run.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #191 on: August 18, 2015, 05:01:01 pm »
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Is there any reason that the Prizes do not have their own results thread?  2013 had those results posted, and Prizes are listed here as if they were going to have their own thread, but there's nothing there.  I tried googling and got nothing.

Qvist never posted them; he's a busy guy.

The order is either Followers > Steed > Princess > Bag > Diadem or Followers > Princess > Steed > Bag > Diadem depending on how right the voters were when this was run.

I find myself getting Diadem more these days (perhaps more than Bag of Gold), mostly when nobody else revealed a Province and I want an immediate injection of cash.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #192 on: August 18, 2015, 05:04:57 pm »
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Is there any reason that the Prizes do not have their own results thread?  2013 had those results posted, and Prizes are listed here as if they were going to have their own thread, but there's nothing there.  I tried googling and got nothing.

Qvist never posted them; he's a busy guy.

The order is either Followers > Steed > Princess > Bag > Diadem or Followers > Princess > Steed > Bag > Diadem depending on how right the voters were when this was run.

I would guess it's the less right order.

I find myself getting Diadem more these days (perhaps more than Bag of Gold), mostly when nobody else revealed a Province and I want an immediate injection of cash.

True, I think that Diadem is definitely better than Bag of Gold. It's not a very popular opinion, though.
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Re: The Dominion Cards Lists 2014 Edition
« Reply #193 on: October 12, 2015, 08:48:19 am »
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Is there any reason that the Prizes do not have their own results thread?  2013 had those results posted, and Prizes are listed here as if they were going to have their own thread, but there's nothing there.  I tried googling and got nothing.

Oops. I never noticed that I forgot that.
The order was:

1. Followers  95.5%
2. Trusty Steed  73.2%
3. Princess  55.5%
4. Diadem  14.1%
5. Bag of Gold  11.9%
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