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[jotheonah]

Aw man, the wagon on me is dying before it gets really going? It's been a long time since a good ol' fashioned D1 Voltaire wagon.

whoop whoop scum alert scum alert

[Voltaire]

Aw man, the wagon on me is dying before it gets really going? It's been a long time since a good ol' fashioned D1 Voltaire wagon.

whoop whoop scum alert scum alert

Why? It's very amusing to me how people see this "obviously" scummy thing.

[jotheonah]

Request a prod on jotheonah

I really don't like the "lynch a lurker" thing. The problem is it gives everyone on the wagon an excuse in the lurker flips town and thus robs us of the info we would normally get from the flip. I think lynching active people can actually be very good, because it gives us info, and nature hates emptiness : ie when you lynch the most active people, other will become more active.

And I'm not too worried about this game being a bit slow anyway, I think a lot of that is RMM13.

In my experience, this just isn't true though.  When you lynch the most active people, you end up with a game where no one posts, and non-posting scum coast to victory.

When "Lynch all Lurkers, Literally" was a thing, it was because this kind of thing happened.

This is so true. For a recent example, see Super Mario Mafia

[Axxle]

I guess what interests me is why are people voting for Teproc, I still don't really get it.  Are all four of those votes actually serious?

Oh, well at least theorel has moved his vote since then.  But I was wondering theorel why did you vote for Teproc when you gave Robz a higher scum score.  Do you base your vote off of like a product of scum score and number of votes that person already has?  (Well plus a constant or something because otherwise you would automatically not lynch anyone who doesn't have any votes.)

Wait the four count is still right because yuma has voted Teproc since the last vote count, I confused myself.  4+1-1=4.  Okay I'm done talking to myself now.

Since when did scott become me?

[jotheonah]

Aw man, the wagon on me is dying before it gets really going? It's been a long time since a good ol' fashioned D1 Voltaire wagon.

whoop whoop scum alert scum alert

Why? It's very amusing to me how people see this "obviously" scummy thing.

It's like ... So basically you're ironically posting that you want to have a wagon on you. That's not the kind of thing town does. That's the kind of thing scum does, because scum thinks it will seem like the kind of thing scum doesn't do. It's like "look how easy and casual I am about the idea of getting lynched D1." It's a very scummy posting style.

[Axxle]

Aw man, the wagon on me is dying before it gets really going? It's been a long time since a good ol' fashioned D1 Voltaire wagon.

whoop whoop scum alert scum alert

Why? It's very amusing to me how people see this "obviously" scummy thing.

It's like ... So basically you're ironically posting that you want to have a wagon on you. That's not the kind of thing town does. That's the kind of thing scum does, because scum thinks it will seem like the kind of thing scum doesn't do. It's like "look how easy and casual I am about the idea of getting lynched D1." It's a very scummy posting style.

I do it as town.
I've never played with Voltaire so don't know if he's the type to as well.

[scott_pilgrim]

I guess what interests me is why are people voting for Teproc, I still don't really get it.  Are all four of those votes actually serious?

Oh, well at least theorel has moved his vote since then.  But I was wondering theorel why did you vote for Teproc when you gave Robz a higher scum score.  Do you base your vote off of like a product of scum score and number of votes that person already has?  (Well plus a constant or something because otherwise you would automatically not lynch anyone who doesn't have any votes.)

Wait the four count is still right because yuma has voted Teproc since the last vote count, I confused myself.  4+1-1=4.  Okay I'm done talking to myself now.

Since when did scott become me?

Since this was philosopher's mafia!  Is it getting solipsistic in here or is it just me?

[jotheonah]

I believe you do, because I know you and I know your meta. Coming from Voltaire up there, it felt forced and I didn't like it.

But I'm not like voting him over it or anything. Let's talk about mail-mi. I mean, having one of your 5 posts be voting someone else for lurking? Does anyone else find that a bit gross?

[jotheonah]

(the you above was Axxle)

[jotheonah]

scott_pilgrim wasn't much better with his "I'm lurking, but joth's lurking more so vote him." Survivalist much? If you don't want to get lynched for lurking, post more. Don't point the finger of blame at the next biggest lurker.

I guess what I'm saying is, I'm shocked by the lack of lurker solidarity here.

[ashersky]

Townread on Joth at this point.  This is basically exactly the same joth that got called out for lurking and then starting posting a lot in Super Mario.

[Axxle]

I believe you do, because I know you and I know your meta. Coming from Voltaire up there, it felt forced and I didn't like it.

But I'm not like voting him over it or anything. Let's talk about mail-mi. I mean, having one of your 5 posts be voting someone else for lurking? Does anyone else find that a bit gross?

maybe. I'm thinking of voting Andrew though since his play here (nonexistent) is so much different than Adventure Time (trying to figure things out, and doing a damn good job at it).

I'm only at about post 250 on a full read so i'm holding off.

[Robz888]

There was a flavor claim! I'm my favorite philosopher, Soren Kierkegaard.

Soren is the best. Soren quotes are so great. Lucky you!

[Axxle]

Isn't sorin a vampire?

[Robz888]

I think I want to vote for Scotty. Vote: Scott Pilgrim

He's sort of lurky and his contributions read scummy to me. Forced, maybe.

[Axxle]

I don't know how many of the new players have played with multiple scumteams before, but both scum will be scumhunting at least a bit, mafia is going to try to find sk and sk is going to try to find mafia. Don't necessarily townread someone because they look like they're genuinely scumhunting. I mean they have other objectives too but that's a wrench we need to work around.

[scott_pilgrim]

Town read on Axxle for trying the IC thing.

I don't think it's townie at all.  If I were scum I would totally try to bring up something like that for towncred (especially if I knew it wasn't going to work anyway, which I think Axxle would have if he were scum).

[ashersky]

Town read on Axxle for trying the IC thing.

I don't think it's townie at all.  If I were scum I would totally try to bring up something like that for towncred (especially if I knew it wasn't going to work anyway, which I think Axxle would have if he were scum).

I actually think scum doesn't know that, unless they were one of the three green ones.  Then yeah, they definitely bring it up.

So slight scum read on this post from Scott.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I believe you do, because I know you and I know your meta. Coming from Voltaire up there, it felt forced and I didn't like it.

But I'm not like voting him over it or anything. Let's talk about mail-mi. I mean, having one of your 5 posts be voting someone else for lurking? Does anyone else find that a bit gross?

maybe. I'm thinking of voting Andrew though since his play here (nonexistent) is so much different than Adventure Time (trying to figure things out, and doing a damn good job at it).

I'm only at about post 250 on a full read so i'm holding off.

Yeah I know I'm fully aware. I was in three games at one point (ZM18 just ended so I'm in two now), and I've just been busy anyway. I'm on my way down to FL right now. Also Adventure Time was my first game (and best game? Did I peak?) and my play has changed a lot since then. I definitely don't want to lurk though, so hopefully I can get back into this one soon.

[Axxle]

He should stop because he's wrong though !

Who were you mad at it Star Wars yuma ? Because I don't think it was me or XP was it ?

Where are mail-mi and sudgy ? I think joth and ash are V/LA, and Axxle will apparently be posting soon, so these two seem to be the big lurkers in this game.

Ha, fooled you!

[Axxle]

I believe you do, because I know you and I know your meta. Coming from Voltaire up there, it felt forced and I didn't like it.

But I'm not like voting him over it or anything. Let's talk about mail-mi. I mean, having one of your 5 posts be voting someone else for lurking? Does anyone else find that a bit gross?

maybe. I'm thinking of voting Andrew though since his play here (nonexistent) is so much different than Adventure Time (trying to figure things out, and doing a damn good job at it).

I'm only at about post 250 on a full read so i'm holding off.

Yeah I know I'm fully aware. I was in three games at one point (ZM18 just ended so I'm in two now), and I've just been busy anyway. I'm on my way down to FL right now. Also Adventure Time was my first game (and best game? Did I peak?) and my play has changed a lot since then. I definitely don't want to lurk though, so hopefully I can get back into this one soon.

You're getting better around 300. Still reserving judgement though.

[theorel]

Yeah, that sounds like town-joth. unvote

y'know lurking mail-mi reminds me of MXXX.  I'm going to join my new town-read and vote: mail-mi

[mail-mi]

Okay okay I'm here for a little bit.

Let's see what is there, oooh two votes on me, that's fun, yeah I'm lurking but I'll try to be more active now.

Joth reads townier to me now that he's back, unvote.

I think I want to vote for Scotty. Vote: Scott Pilgrim

He's sort of lurky and his contributions read scummy to me. Forced, maybe.

And he seems different from his past town games. vote: scotty

[Robz888]

Yeah, that sounds like town-joth. unvote

y'know lurking mail-mi reminds me of MXXX.  I'm going to join my new town-read and vote: mail-mi

Mail-mi has been EXTREMELY lurky as town lately.

[ashersky]

Yeah, that sounds like town-joth. unvote

y'know lurking mail-mi reminds me of MXXX.  I'm going to join my new town-read and vote: mail-mi

Mail-mi has been EXTREMELY lurky as town lately.

Fixed.