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Bond. James Bond.
« on: February 04, 2014, 04:00:03 pm »
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This is something that nobody needs to know, but I'm going to tell you anyway. I'm a big James Bond fan, at least of the "official" Eon produced films. And thus, since I have nothing better to do, I'll now rank all 23 films in order from worst to best. Use this thread to make your own list, discuss the films or the books or anything else related to James Bond, but mainly just humor me because I've always wanted to make this list.

23 - Die Another Day
22 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
21 - Moonraker
20 - Tomorrow Never Dies
19 - The World is Not Enough
18 - The Living Daylights
17 - Licence to Kill
16 - A View to a Kill
15 - Octopussy
14 - Quantum of Solace
13 - For Your Eyes Only
12 - Diamonds Are Forever
11 - Live & Let Die
10 - Skyfall
9 - The Man With the Golden Gun
8 - Casino Royale
7 - Goldeneye
6 - Thunderball
5 - From Russia With Love
4 - Dr. No
3 - The Spy Who Loved Me
2 - You Only Live Twice
1 - Goldfinger

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Re: Bond. James Bond.
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 05:07:04 pm »
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How is Moonraker not last? Like, how is it not even last out of every movie made? It's so bad. Nothing happens. A little stereotypical Asian guy tries to assassinate him with a stick, he wear a funny gondolier hat, and then Jaws becomes his friend! Not to mention Jaws was already a pretty weak character as a villain, but now he's using his slow, easily avoided zombie bite to help Bond.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2014, 05:29:46 pm »
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Little Asian guy? Are you thinking of Knick Knack from The Man With the Golden Gun? Moonraker's only saving grace is the tram fight with Jaws. Just like the only saving grace of Die Another Day is the sword fight. Come to think of it, there's nothing good in On Her Majesty's Secret Service so it should really be this:

23 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
22/21 - Moonraker
22/21 - Die Another Day
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2014, 05:37:58 pm »
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I do like On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I seem to remember some awful winter sports effects at the end but that's more than compensated for by Diana Rigg. Lazenby is a decent Bond.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2014, 08:32:35 pm »
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Little Asian guy? Are you thinking of Knick Knack from The Man With the Golden Gun? Moonraker's only saving grace is the tram fight with Jaws. Just like the only saving grace of Die Another Day is the sword fight. Come to think of it, there's nothing good in On Her Majesty's Secret Service so it should really be this:

23 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
22/21 - Moonraker
22/21 - Die Another Day

This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT8nwEiRPM
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2014, 09:22:16 pm »
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I do like On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I seem to remember some awful winter sports effects at the end but that's more than compensated for by Diana Rigg. Lazenby is a decent Bond.

A lot of people put OHMSS near the top of their list and I don't understand it. Everything about the movie is wrong. The movie starts off with Bond breaking the fourth wall in a reference to Connery. Bond is undercover for the first half of the movie. That's not Bond's stye. Bond walks in, tells the villain his name, and proceeds to singlehandedly dismantle said villain's diabolical schemes. The other half of the movie Bond is running and hiding instead of fighting. Yes, Bond runs in a lot of other movies but he figures out some way to turn the tide. In Thunderball, for example, there's a big on foot chase scene. I think he even gets shot in the leg or something if I remember correctly. But he ends up meeting his pursuer face to face and gets the better of her.

Speaking of singlehandedly getting the job done, sometimes Bond has help. But in the end it's up to Bond to save the day. I don't remember the end of OHMSS exactly but I think Bond is transported by helicopter and works with a small army to destroy Blofeld's lair (speaking of which, this is the worst Blofeld) and never really definitively saves the day (I could be wrong about this). In Goldfinger Bond has the help of the US army, but it's he who kills Oddjob and stops an atomic bomb from going off. And I haven't even mentioned the marriage yet! Oh boy.

Little Asian guy? Are you thinking of Knick Knack from The Man With the Golden Gun? Moonraker's only saving grace is the tram fight with Jaws. Just like the only saving grace of Die Another Day is the sword fight. Come to think of it, there's nothing good in On Her Majesty's Secret Service so it should really be this:

23 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
22/21 - Moonraker
22/21 - Die Another Day

This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT8nwEiRPM

Oh right. Pretty forgettable, seeing as how I forgot about it. I do like Jaws however until he meets his girlfriend. Jaws in Egypt is badass as well as his escape from the underwater fortress thing at the end of The Spy Who Loved Me. I mean come on. He bites a shark and swims across the ocean.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2014, 09:27:16 pm »
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Blofeld in OHMSS does have a cheap lair, but it does have Joanna Lumley and Catherine Schnell just as extras inside. That's quality.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2014, 09:36:58 pm »
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Blofeld in OHMSS does have a cheap lair, but it does have Joanna Lumley and Catherine Schnell just as extras inside. That's quality.

You'll never hear me complain about Bond girls and that's one thing OHMSS has going for it. He gets laid twice in one night and still isn't satisfied.
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Re: Bond. James Bond.
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2014, 10:22:17 am »
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Casino Royale is the only one I've seen, so it's my favorite.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 12:57:15 pm »
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I like Brosnan as Bond better than Moore, but there's no denying many of those were awful movies.  I haven't seen the Daniel Craig version of Bond.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 02:10:53 pm »
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I like Brosnan as Bond better than Moore, but there's no denying many of those were awful movies.  I haven't seen the Daniel Craig version of Bond.

Word. I like Brosnan too, just not his movies (besides Goldeneye). I slightly prefer Moore, at least his first three films.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 02:19:30 pm »
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I like Brosnan as Bond better than Moore, but there's no denying many of those were awful movies.  I haven't seen the Daniel Craig version of Bond.
Casino Royale is really good and I would highly recommend it.  I would rank it in the "high" tier along with Goldeneye and others, though not quite "top" tier with Goldfinger etc.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2014, 03:24:17 pm »
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Casino Royale is quite good but the poker scene is so awful in so many ways.
The final hand where all of them have good hands, but Bond obviously has the straight flush is so ridiculous.
And dealers don't shuffle around the cards to show the players the actual hands they can make.

I think I like the opening scene from Casino Royale the most of the whole movie.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 03:28:53 pm »
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The closing scene is pretty badass too.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2014, 03:29:52 pm »
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Casino Royale is quite good but the poker scene is so awful in so many ways.
The final hand where all of them have good hands, but Bond obviously has the straight flush is so ridiculous.
And dealers don't shuffle around the cards to show the players the actual hands they can make.

I think I like the opening scene from Casino Royale the most of the whole movie.

The stairway fight is pretty good too.

The poker scene would not be cool to non-poker players if it was realistic though. "I win with a King high, Mr. Le Chiffre."
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2014, 03:44:16 pm »
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Casino Royale is quite good but the poker scene is so awful in so many ways.
The final hand where all of them have good hands, but Bond obviously has the straight flush is so ridiculous.
And dealers don't shuffle around the cards to show the players the actual hands they can make.

I think I like the opening scene from Casino Royale the most of the whole movie.

The stairway fight is pretty good too.

The poker scene would not be cool to non-poker players if it was realistic though. "I win with a King high, Mr. Le Chiffre."
But non-poker players don't understand what's going on anyway, but can still get the tension of the game. So they could have made it realistic and it would not have mattered for non-poker players.

I mean, I don't know Baccarat or Craps, but can find it thrilling to watch Bond play those games.
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2014, 03:50:40 pm »
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Casino Royale is quite good but the poker scene is so awful in so many ways.
The final hand where all of them have good hands, but Bond obviously has the straight flush is so ridiculous.
And dealers don't shuffle around the cards to show the players the actual hands they can make.

I think I like the opening scene from Casino Royale the most of the whole movie.

The stairway fight is pretty good too.

The poker scene would not be cool to non-poker players if it was realistic though. "I win with a King high, Mr. Le Chiffre."
But non-poker players don't understand what's going on anyway, but can still get the tension of the game. So they could have made it realistic and it would not have mattered for non-poker players.

I mean, I don't know Baccarat or Craps, but can find it thrilling to watch Bond play those games.

Maybe, but straight flush sounds better than King high. And most non-poker players still know roughly the hand order.
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2014, 04:03:19 pm »
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Casino Royale is quite good but the poker scene is so awful in so many ways.
The final hand where all of them have good hands, but Bond obviously has the straight flush is so ridiculous.
And dealers don't shuffle around the cards to show the players the actual hands they can make.

I think I like the opening scene from Casino Royale the most of the whole movie.

The stairway fight is pretty good too.

The poker scene would not be cool to non-poker players if it was realistic though. "I win with a King high, Mr. Le Chiffre."
But non-poker players don't understand what's going on anyway, but can still get the tension of the game. So they could have made it realistic and it would not have mattered for non-poker players.

I mean, I don't know Baccarat or Craps, but can find it thrilling to watch Bond play those games.
But there are quite a lot of people who know what straight flush means even if they don't know that it happens pretty much never in actuality.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2014, 10:07:33 pm »
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Let's see some more lists. If you haven't seen a few of them that's ok.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2014, 02:17:39 am »
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Well, I don't remember enough of the movies to make an actual list, but I do remember some epic scenes, so I'll make a list for that.

1. The beginning of Live and Let Die where the agent asks "Whose funeral is it?" and some guy standing next to him says "Yours" and then he gets killed and put into the casket they were carrying. At that point the music changes from sad to happy, it's such a classic scene,

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2. The opening "parkour" or "free running" scene from Casino Royale


3. The ski chase from The Spy Who Loved Me



There are probably others that I might like better, but these were the ones I instantly remembered.
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2014, 11:11:31 am »
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As classic as the ski chase and (especially) the jump are, I like the opening credit sequence better:



But I think Thunderball takes it for best song+opening sequence combo:



Followed closey by You Only Live Twice, but I might be putting this here just because the song is my favorite of all James Bond films:

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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 03:46:40 pm »
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My favorite song is Live and Let Die by the Wings followed closely by View to a Kill by Duran Duran.

I think Skyfall is also a pretty good song though.
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2014, 11:38:45 pm »
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My favorite song is Live and Let Die by the Wings followed closely by View to a Kill by Duran Duran.

I think Skyfall is also a pretty good song though.

Yeah Live and Let Die is classic and A View To a Kill is pretty catchy, although Im not a huge '80s fan.

Has anyone read any or all of the books? I'm slowly working my way through them.
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2014, 01:11:27 am »
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And then there's this:

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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2014, 02:45:08 am »
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I thought this was pretty cool as well, about the only Brosnan scene I remember:

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