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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #200 on: October 16, 2014, 08:53:15 am »
+2

i think uncontested FG+Black Market/tactician (with some added +buy in there) wins handily, but then i'm out of practice...
With scheme, black market, vault, a village, and tactician that's pretty clearly a double-tac deck.  I was thinking using GMs to make it work but they're not that wildly easy to obtain on that board.  Should be possible to get that to reliably double or even triple province every turn, fairly quickly especially if you're lucky enough to swing a 5/2.

Of course, the contents of the BM will be very important.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #201 on: October 16, 2014, 09:49:41 pm »
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Missed the "next page" button.  Bought Estate with $8 on turn 12.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #202 on: October 16, 2014, 09:54:09 pm »
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http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20141016/log.5143f655e4b08529f80f99d6.1413510553752.txt

Crazy game. Scavenger+herald is a super awesome combo, especially with support like it had here. No trashing or draw, but I could still play my best cards pretty much every turn by messing with the top of my deck.

Turn 15 and 13 I over payed herald by two to put scavenger and TR on the deck to avoid having to go through an awful shuffle that I triggered for myself. T12 I set up the top 6 cards of my deck, T14 the top 8. With some luck I eventually managed to get 5 highways in play with squires for buys to win, just in time because piles were running.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #203 on: October 19, 2014, 05:59:38 pm »
+4

I dug myself into a deep pit today by opening Spy while my opponent opened Smithy and proceeded to buy two Witches. They then proceeded to seriously curse me and empty out the Labs trying to get a mega engine. I was about to resign BUT THEN I saw that two piles were gone and the Cellars were close to out, plus I grabbed an early game Province while I had the chance before. Evidently my opponent either didn't notice me only buying Cellars or they thought that missing Province was theirs but I managed to slip past their engine building and snag the win. And that is why you watch the piles, kids.

(Seriously, they had enough money/buys per turn that they could easily have had at least one Province/Cellar turn and screwed me over. I was actually whispering "don't buy a Province, don't by a Province" whenever it was their turn.)
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #204 on: October 19, 2014, 07:14:10 pm »
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Question: What is the probability of getting a 5-2 split, and after making two purchases, getting ANOTHER 5-2 split, with both of your purchases on the bottom of the deck? (Ignoring things like Nomad Camp, Noble Brigand, etc.)

Answer: 1 in 2376.

It just happened to me. Not a very exciting board, but still, winning after such a wacky start was quite satisfying.

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20141019/log.5145b7a7e4b0f9222536fe1c.1413759930752.txt

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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #205 on: October 19, 2014, 08:33:50 pm »
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Question: What is the probability of getting a 5-2 split, and after making two purchases, getting ANOTHER 5-2 split, with both of your purchases on the bottom of the deck? (Ignoring things like Nomad Camp, Noble Brigand, etc.)

Answer: 1 in 2376.

Question 2: What is the probability that you, having played 946 games on Goko, have experienced it at least once?

Answer: Pretty much 1 in 3.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #206 on: October 19, 2014, 09:34:01 pm »
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I swear a 5/2 followed by a 5/2 doesn't seem that rare to me. I know I have had it happen before on a few occasions.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #207 on: October 19, 2014, 10:04:56 pm »
+1

Question: What is the probability of getting a 5-2 split, and after making two purchases, getting ANOTHER 5-2 split, with both of your purchases on the bottom of the deck? (Ignoring things like Nomad Camp, Noble Brigand, etc.)

Answer: 1 in 2376.

I swear a 5/2 followed by a 5/2 doesn't seem that rare to me. I know I have had it happen before on a few occasions.

These posts can be reconciled by the following observation: many games when you start with a 5/2 split, you make only one purchase and buy nothing on the $2 hand.  In your next shuffle the chance that the single card purchased is on the bottom is 1/11, which is much higher than the 1/66 chance if you purchase 2 cards. Therefore, two 5/2 splits is likely to be substantially more common than the 1 in 2376 calculation suggests.

Edit: in addition, the exact situation where you get a 5/2, purchase two cards, and get another 5/2 is even rarer than 1 in 2376 games because in many of the 5/2 openings, you only purchase a card on the $5 hand.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #208 on: October 19, 2014, 10:32:47 pm »
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The way the statement was phrased it is clear that the probability is given you made two purchases. And still, when you only get one card the odds are still 1/396, which is still quite small. No, I think it's just that you remember when you have weird shuffle more than when you get normal ones.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #209 on: October 20, 2014, 09:50:36 pm »
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #210 on: October 21, 2014, 03:47:48 am »
+8

Nobility decline ...

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gamesou - sets aside Prince
gamesou - sets aside Necropolis

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---------- gamesou: turn 18 ----------
gamesou - duration Prince
gamesou - plays Necropolis
(...)
gamesou - plays Goons
jen - discards Silver
jen - discards Goons
gamesou - plays Goons
gamesou - plays Goons
(...)

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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #211 on: October 21, 2014, 03:55:42 am »
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was necro the only village?
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #212 on: October 21, 2014, 04:04:43 am »
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Yes, and no cantrip $4 or less
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #213 on: October 21, 2014, 10:28:11 am »
+1

Screw this game

I laughed so hard, I almost choked on my breakfast.  ;D

I feel for you. Your 5-2 5-2 was WAY more painful than mine.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #214 on: October 21, 2014, 11:17:55 am »
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Screw this game

watched this on silent in my office... laughed so hard i cried a little
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #215 on: October 21, 2014, 01:43:48 pm »
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Speaking of bad boards for 5-2:   https://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20141020/log.53be12a0e4b00ccce8075fbc.1413862493359.txt

I keep getting stuck with 5 & 2 hands on a board where Urchin is crucial, while my opponent gets Mercenary on T3 despite only buying one Urchin. When a finally get Urchin, out gets Swindled away just as about to collide. I say something like "as if my luck wasn't bad enough already" and he says something about how or ran out after my 5 opening. Um, no. Opening 5 was terrible here.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #216 on: October 21, 2014, 04:29:17 pm »
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #217 on: October 21, 2014, 04:47:15 pm »
+1

I have never posted any of my games on this thread before. However, there was a Mountebank game I was losing hard. On one turn, I overpay Doctor for 14 coins. I then go on to tie the game. Please note, I accidentally trashed an estate when I overpayed with my doctor. Although, after I overpay for the doctor, I do lots of crazy stuff as well. My opponent was blown away by the game as well.

http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20141021/log.516d4e77e4b082c74d7b91f6.1413923518741.txt

Hmm...I am not sure how to quote excerpts from the log. Anyway, the overpay happens on turn 23
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #218 on: October 21, 2014, 04:53:52 pm »
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Hmm...I am not sure how to quote excerpts from the log. Anyway, the overpay happens on turn 23

You can click on the turn and it will hyperlink you directly to that turn.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #219 on: October 21, 2014, 05:00:48 pm »
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Hmm...I am not sure how to quote excerpts from the log. Anyway, the overpay happens on turn 23

You can click on the turn and it will hyperlink you directly to that turn.

Thanks. But, how do I quote a turn in a post?
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #220 on: October 21, 2014, 05:31:29 pm »
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Hmm...I am not sure how to quote excerpts from the log. Anyway, the overpay happens on turn 23

You can click on the turn and it will hyperlink you directly to that turn.

Thanks. But, how do I quote a turn in a post?

You can just use your basic quote tags, but since it's long you probably want to do a code block.

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Beyond Awesome   plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome   draws Copper
Beyond Awesome   plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome   plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome   looks at Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome   discards: Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome   draws Great Hall, Mining Village, Catacombs
Beyond Awesome   plays Catacombs
...

Code: [Select]
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Copper
Beyond Awesome plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome discards: Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome draws Great Hall, Mining Village, Catacombs
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper, Gold, Curse
Beyond Awesome discards: Copper, Gold, Curse
Beyond Awesome draws Great Hall, Moat, Mining Village
Beyond Awesome plays Great Hall
Beyond Awesome draws Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Great Hall
Beyond Awesome draws Catacombs
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Mining Village
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome shuffles deck
Beyond Awesome looks at Throne Room, Silver
Beyond Awesome places cards in hand: Copper, Throne Room, Silver
Beyond Awesome plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper, Curse, Remodel
Beyond Awesome places cards in hand: Copper, Curse, Remodel
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome discards: Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome draws Copper, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Gold
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Mining Village
Beyond Awesome plays Moat
Beyond Awesome draws Mining Village, Copper
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Mountebank
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Copper
Beyond Awesome plays Mountebank
ComingFromReality reveals reaction Moat
Beyond Awesome plays Mountebank
ComingFromReality reveals reaction Moat
Beyond Awesome plays Remodel
Beyond Awesome trashes Gold
Beyond Awesome gains Province
Beyond Awesome plays 9 Copper, 1 Silver
Beyond Awesome buys Doctor
Beyond Awesome overpays for Doctor with 14 coins
Beyond Awesome looks at Estate
Beyond Awesome trashes Estate
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Remodel
Beyond Awesome discards Remodel
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Curse
Beyond Awesome trashes Curse
Beyond Awesome looks at Silver
Beyond Awesome discards Silver
Beyond Awesome looks at Curse
Beyond Awesome trashes Curse
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Curse
Beyond Awesome trashes Curse
Beyond Awesome looks at Estate
Beyond Awesome discards Estate
Beyond Awesome looks at Silver
Beyond Awesome discards Silver
Beyond Awesome looks at Great Hall
Beyond Awesome discards Great Hall
Beyond Awesome gains Doctor
Beyond Awesome draws Duchy, Copper
Beyond Awesome shuffles deck
Beyond Awesome draws Estate, Catacombs, Silver
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #221 on: October 21, 2014, 06:27:48 pm »
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Hmm...I am not sure how to quote excerpts from the log. Anyway, the overpay happens on turn 23

You can click on the turn and it will hyperlink you directly to that turn.


Thanks. But, how do I quote a turn in a post?

You can just use your basic quote tags, but since it's long you probably want to do a code block.

Quote
Beyond Awesome   plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome   draws Copper
Beyond Awesome   plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome   plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome   looks at Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome   discards: Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome   draws Great Hall, Mining Village, Catacombs
Beyond Awesome   plays Catacombs
...

Code: [Select]
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Copper
Beyond Awesome plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome discards: Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome draws Great Hall, Mining Village, Catacombs
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper, Gold, Curse
Beyond Awesome discards: Copper, Gold, Curse
Beyond Awesome draws Great Hall, Moat, Mining Village
Beyond Awesome plays Great Hall
Beyond Awesome draws Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Great Hall
Beyond Awesome draws Catacombs
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Mining Village
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome shuffles deck
Beyond Awesome looks at Throne Room, Silver
Beyond Awesome places cards in hand: Copper, Throne Room, Silver
Beyond Awesome plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper, Curse, Remodel
Beyond Awesome places cards in hand: Copper, Curse, Remodel
Beyond Awesome plays Catacombs
Beyond Awesome looks at Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome discards: Estate, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome draws Copper, Copper, Copper
Beyond Awesome plays Throne Room
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Gold
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Mining Village
Beyond Awesome plays Moat
Beyond Awesome draws Mining Village, Copper
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Mountebank
Beyond Awesome plays Mining Village
Beyond Awesome draws Copper
Beyond Awesome plays Mountebank
ComingFromReality reveals reaction Moat
Beyond Awesome plays Mountebank
ComingFromReality reveals reaction Moat
Beyond Awesome plays Remodel
Beyond Awesome trashes Gold
Beyond Awesome gains Province
Beyond Awesome plays 9 Copper, 1 Silver
Beyond Awesome buys Doctor
Beyond Awesome overpays for Doctor with 14 coins
Beyond Awesome looks at Estate
Beyond Awesome trashes Estate
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Remodel
Beyond Awesome discards Remodel
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Curse
Beyond Awesome trashes Curse
Beyond Awesome looks at Silver
Beyond Awesome discards Silver
Beyond Awesome looks at Curse
Beyond Awesome trashes Curse
Beyond Awesome looks at Copper
Beyond Awesome trashes Copper
Beyond Awesome looks at Curse
Beyond Awesome trashes Curse
Beyond Awesome looks at Estate
Beyond Awesome discards Estate
Beyond Awesome looks at Silver
Beyond Awesome discards Silver
Beyond Awesome looks at Great Hall
Beyond Awesome discards Great Hall
Beyond Awesome gains Doctor
Beyond Awesome draws Duchy, Copper
Beyond Awesome shuffles deck
Beyond Awesome draws Estate, Catacombs, Silver

Thank you :)
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #222 on: October 21, 2014, 08:21:07 pm »
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Caravans. Cities. Provinces. Margrave. Coin tokens. GG. And when I say GG, I mean GAME OVER SORRY NOT SORRY.

(I think what made the difference is that the other players wanted to thin their decks down with Uprgade which I thought was kind of weak while I didn't bother with trashing and went straight for Cities.)
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #223 on: October 25, 2014, 12:36:19 am »
+6

Yesterday I had a hand in which after playing a few engine cards I ended up with just 6 colonies in my hand.  Not so much as a copper, just 60 VP in green for a completely dead turn.  Kind of a first-world problem

In another game I had 3 KCs in my deck and my opponent had just bought his 1st, so it seemed I was ahead.  Then I drew KC-KC-KC-Copper-Spoils.. and eventually lost.
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Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« Reply #224 on: October 25, 2014, 09:53:32 am »
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Speaking of KC luck, yesterday my opponent started his turn with KC-KC-pearl diver-bridge-bridge. In a deck with all of his starting cards, at least half the curse pile, several golds, and just 3 KCs and bridges.
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