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[luser]

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140416/log.5062f3dc51c3843e7939eb9f.1397677167083.txt

won game by emptying the scout pile- although in fairness, my opponent buying 7 scouts made my victory practically inevitable!!

I think your opponent forgot that Scout doesn't draw Ruins.

Or tried to create a secret chamber/chancellor/scout/counting house combo. Discard your deck with chancellor, use counting house to get all coppers into hand, then scout to gather remaining greens and finally secret chamber to turn green into copper.

Also that board has witch and cultist, why nobody picked witch?

[Awaclus]

Also that board has witch and cultist, why nobody picked witch?

Cultist doesn't like not being the only kind of Action in a deck with no splitters.

[dominator 123]

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140424/log.516e3d11e4b082c74d7d39da.1398329160758.txt

Kingdom:

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Loan, Masquerade, Wishing Well, Militia, Quarry, City, Market, Royal Seal, Torturer, Upgrade
After losing both the Market and City split, due to peiling buying more engine parts instead of VP (only one Province), I managed to get just enough buys to buy a Province, an Estate, and the last seven Masquerades to end the game in my favour (the 2 Quarries helped to reduce the cost of Masquerade to $0).

[assemble_me]

Might not be a big deal for many of you, but yesterday I played and won against a 6K+ rated opponent for the first time.
Especially after having a bad dominion evening the day before (losing four out of five games) that totally made my day.
I'm also a bit proud that I didn't just mindlessly mirror his play but went for my own plan.
He played an Apothecary-Warehouse deck with Golem, Spy and Haggler as support while I went for a simpler BM with Counterfeit and a Haggler. I still like my plan better and was just to fast for him to catch up.

So... it seems I'll post the log when gokosalvager is back up.
/E: Here it is:  http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140430/log.516cd492e4b082c74d7a247a.1398882801365.txt ... and yea I guess 6 provinces is 15 turns is fast...

[mail-mi]

So I just played an awesome hermit/madman/market square game... my opponent didn't know the combo so I got 9 of the hermits and got enough gold (and 7 of the market squares) so I could pile out the entire province pile.

but salvager is down and I can't get the log 

Edit: LOG! http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20140501/log.50632f850cf2b1ff4173d9b8.1398996894773.txt

[Moneymodel]

I do love me a successful Hermit/MS combo.

I also don't have a log and am not going to get it, but I played a really interesting game with Hamlet, Armory, Herald, Treasure Map, and Baker. I saw the Hamlet-Armory-TM combo immediately, since I'd done it before, so I opened double Armory as opposed to double TM. It wasn't until I was actually performing the combo and getting 12$ with no extra buys that I saw the synergy with Herald. I could essentially set up the next two turns with the amount of money I had, doing the exact same thing again. 1 Hamlet and 2 Armories for first turn, then 1 Hamlet and 1 Armory (to top-deck a Hamlet) for the TM turn, and random Coppers and Estates to account for the five-card hands. Result: drawing Hamlet with my four Golds, guaranteeing me an extra buy.

I didn't win the game, since Baker ironically enabled some fast Provinces for my opponent, but I still thought it was cool.

[prom_vrt]

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140509/log.515b24b2e4b0ee7f08a5bff0.1399636341880.txt

Another game which I was all behind in VPs but the end. I was at a huge disadvantageous position because my opponent reached 8 much sooner than me and purchased 2 goons with stonemason along with many hamlets and stables. A single colony turned the game to my victory at the last turn with the only platinum.

Any suggestion for me is greatly pleased. I think I played this game badly and there should be a better solution...

[liopoil]

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140510/log.516cceeae4b082c74d79f558.1399772572460.txt

He opens 5-2, I open 3-4. 5-2 is just miles and miles better here. By the end of turn 6 the deckstates are:

kfm: 1 wharf, 8 Fool's Golds, 7 copper, 3 estates. liopoil: 1 wharf, 2 Fool's Golds, 2 Foragers (no treasures in trash yet), 7 coppers, and one each of silver, quarry, and estate. However, city is on the board! My deck is two estates and 6 fool's golds thinner (and also has two foragers for more trashing), so I can easily pivot my deck, and win the city split 6-4. I also trash my treasures, powering forager up to $4, and getting a couple more foragers. Turns 12, 13, and 14 I easily draw my deck and get all of my money from 6 cities, and my 4 foragers. I am guaranteed to be able to draw my whole deck each of those turns except the last, but it is still exceedingly likely on the last. I got all my money from those 6 cities, and my foragers which were worth 4 apiece because of quarry, silver, and FG. He resigns before I can get the last two provinces on my last turn. I think you can't go pure FG here, and in fact 8 FGs were probably actually too many for him (what? too many Fool's Golds??!?!) because they power up cities and they stop the engine from building. I really liked this game because I really don't like Fool's Gold because it makes otherwise interesting game boring (sort of like rebuild, but with rebuild there are more often tough choices), so it felt good to beat it here.

[prom_vrt]

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140512/log.516dbfe8e4b082c74d7c829b.1399901185892.txt

Prom Vrt   plays Trading Post
Prom Vrt   trashes Province, Province
Prom Vrt   gains Silver
Prom Vrt   plays 2 Gold, 1 Silver
Prom Vrt   buys Province
Prom Vrt   gains Province
Prom Vrt   draws Silver, Province, Province, Ironmonger, Ironmonger

Nice ending by trashing two Provinces with Trading Post for Silver. It's another thing I am not going to do at all without VP counter!!!!!!

[Tables]

This happened in a F2F game, so no log. You don't need one really though.

4 player game. Everything set up, I'm looking over the board. Mountebank at $5, Goons at $6, no real drawing or trashing but Moat is around making things interesting. I'm in 4th seat, and draw 2/5. Fine, works for me. Everyone else opens Smugglers and something else (I think two Smugglers/Silvers and a Smugglers/Mining Village, maybe?) - most of them aren't that experienced so whatever. I grab Moat/Mountebank, whatever.

Turn 3 and the player on my left Smuggles my Mountebank. Well crap, he's also the next best player in the game. Then the next player Smuggles the Mountebank as well. Then the 4th player Smuggles it as well. I'm pretty much thinking I've lost at this point, but oh well. I do something/ Turn 4 and I don't draw the Mountebank but do draw the Moat. I don't play it.

Turn 5 rolls around, and before I even get my 5th go, I've been hit by 3 Mountebanks. Hit by 3 Mountebanks, before I could even play the Mountebank I opened with. It sucked so bad.

The game didn't get too much better for me, with the player on my left's Smugglers stealing my first (and only) Goons, my Goons and Mountebank collided the shuffle after I got the Goons, and quite a few Duchies got smuggled as well.

I didn't win.

[Eevee]

You make your own shuffle luck.

[Joseph2302]

This happened in a F2F game, so no log. You don't need one really though.

4 player game. Everything set up, I'm looking over the board. Mountebank at $5, Goons at $6, no real drawing or trashing but Moat is around making things interesting. I'm in 4th seat, and draw 2/5. Fine, works for me. Everyone else opens Smugglers and something else (I think two Smugglers/Silvers and a Smugglers/Mining Village, maybe?) - most of them aren't that experienced so whatever. I grab Moat/Mountebank, whatever.

Turn 3 and the player on my left Smuggles my Mountebank. Well crap, he's also the next best player in the game. Then the next player Smuggles the Mountebank as well. Then the 4th player Smuggles it as well. I'm pretty much thinking I've lost at this point, but oh well. I do something/ Turn 4 and I don't draw the Mountebank but do draw the Moat. I don't play it.

Turn 5 rolls around, and before I even get my 5th go, I've been hit by 3 Mountebanks. Hit by 3 Mountebanks, before I could even play the Mountebank I opened with. It sucked so bad.

The game didn't get too much better for me, with the player on my left's Smugglers stealing my first (and only) Goons, my Goons and Mountebank collided the shuffle after I got the Goons, and quite a few Duchies got smuggled as well.

I didn't win.

So it isn't just me who you have terrible shuffle luck against... Learn to shuffle better

[SirD]

I have never bought more from a black market than here. All the cards came so good together. Cities for actions (and draw) and then so many action money cards: Mandarin to put a card back on top, Mystic to draw it back, Grand market, Merchant ship, ... Everything wonderful with the plentyful actions from cities. In addition a single knight for me to keep my opponent down and a single rats to get rid of the coppers. Amazing game:

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140512/log.516d6636e4b082c74d7bdf6f.1399943992758.txt

Loved it.

[mail-mi]

It's always so fun to pull off a Herald engine with no villages. And herbalist for plus buy.

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140512/log.50e20cf4e4b0a47150882831.1399951531812.txt

[prom_vrt]

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140512/log.536a804de4b0462a8092c9ab.1399951299686.txt

Colony is ignorable in favor of coppers deck with Beggar, Garden, Counting House, Cache and Masterpiece. Coppers and Silvers were all gone.
I underestimate the power of this combo for platinum and I lose. Though in fact I think this kingdom is selectively chosen for this combo.

[TrojH]

4 player game. Everything set up, I'm looking over the board. Mountebank at $5, Goons at $6, no real drawing or trashing but Moat is around making things interesting. I'm in 4th seat, and draw 2/5. Fine, works for me. Everyone else opens Smugglers and something else (I think two Smugglers/Silvers and a Smugglers/Mining Village, maybe?) - most of them aren't that experienced so whatever. I grab Moat/Mountebank, whatever.

Turn 3 and the player on my left Smuggles my Mountebank. Well crap, he's also the next best player in the game. Then the next player Smuggles the Mountebank as well. Then the 4th player Smuggles it as well. I'm pretty much thinking I've lost at this point, but oh well. I do something/ Turn 4 and I don't draw the Mountebank but do draw the Moat. I don't play it.

Turn 5 rolls around, and before I even get my 5th go, I've been hit by 3 Mountebanks. Hit by 3 Mountebanks, before I could even play the Mountebank I opened with. It sucked so bad.

You shouldn't have bought the Moat, Tables. You should've opened Mountebank/nothing.

On a Mountebank/nothing opening, your Mountebank has a 1/11 chance of missing the reshuffle. On Mountebank/Moat, it's 1/6.

Eevee is right. You do make your own shuffle luck.

[TrojH]

Although, having said that, I think I should post the following:

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Transmute, Native Village, Develop, Farming Village, Noble Brigand, Pirate Ship, Taxman, Contraband, Council Room, Mystic
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140509/log.516d2839e4b082c74d7b13ae.1399689254786.txt

A game from a few days ago. Turn 1, I bought a Silver. Turn 2, I no longer had the Silver; it fell to my opponent's Noble Brigand. That was basically game over.

It was a 1/6 shot: 1/2 that my opponent would start with 4+ coins, and 1/3 that the Noble Brigand would hit the Silver. Unlucky, but completely avoidable; I should've opened Develop or Native Village.

You make your own shuffle luck.

[AJD]

I thought we agreed that making your own shuffle luck was cheating.

[Tables]

4 player game. Everything set up, I'm looking over the board. Mountebank at $5, Goons at $6, no real drawing or trashing but Moat is around making things interesting. I'm in 4th seat, and draw 2/5. Fine, works for me. Everyone else opens Smugglers and something else (I think two Smugglers/Silvers and a Smugglers/Mining Village, maybe?) - most of them aren't that experienced so whatever. I grab Moat/Mountebank, whatever.

Turn 3 and the player on my left Smuggles my Mountebank. Well crap, he's also the next best player in the game. Then the next player Smuggles the Mountebank as well. Then the 4th player Smuggles it as well. I'm pretty much thinking I've lost at this point, but oh well. I do something/ Turn 4 and I don't draw the Mountebank but do draw the Moat. I don't play it.

Turn 5 rolls around, and before I even get my 5th go, I've been hit by 3 Mountebanks. Hit by 3 Mountebanks, before I could even play the Mountebank I opened with. It sucked so bad.

You shouldn't have bought the Moat, Tables. You should've opened Mountebank/nothing.

On a Mountebank/nothing opening, your Mountebank has a 1/11 chance of missing the reshuffle. On Mountebank/Moat, it's 1/6.

Eevee is right. You do make your own shuffle luck.

Bear in mind it's a 4 player game and I'm in last seat. I don't think skipping Moat is worth it considering that, but I dunno.

[AdamH]

Eevee is right. You do make your own shuffle luck.

lol

[Awaclus]

Eevee is right. You do make your own shuffle luck.

lol

Are you saying he isn't right?

[AdamH]

Eevee is right. You do make your own shuffle luck.

lol

Are you saying he isn't right?

Never.

I'm amused that this is something that more people say now besides just me, even if they're just channeling me. It's like I'm a trend-setter.

[shark_bait]

I've never posted here because I haven't felt that I had any worthy.  Tonight that changed.

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Pearl Diver, Tunnel, Bishop, Caravan, Throne Room, Band of Misfits, Embassy, Festival, Junk Dealer, Tribute
I want to play the engine immediately.  Through unfortunate draws it takes me until Turn 7 to get my first Junk Dealer despite no attacks.  That's okay as I'm in it for the long game.  Turn 18 I am down 52 to 26 with a single Province in the supply.  I proceed to play 4 Bishops trashing 4 Gold for 16 Points and obtaining $17 with 3 Buys allowing me to get Province/Duchy/Tunnel for a net gain of 27 points for the 1-point victory.

[prom_vrt]

4 player game. Everything set up, I'm looking over the board. Mountebank at $5, Goons at $6, no real drawing or trashing but Moat is around making things interesting. I'm in 4th seat, and draw 2/5. Fine, works for me. Everyone else opens Smugglers and something else (I think two Smugglers/Silvers and a Smugglers/Mining Village, maybe?) - most of them aren't that experienced so whatever. I grab Moat/Mountebank, whatever.

Turn 3 and the player on my left Smuggles my Mountebank. Well crap, he's also the next best player in the game. Then the next player Smuggles the Mountebank as well. Then the 4th player Smuggles it as well. I'm pretty much thinking I've lost at this point, but oh well. I do something/ Turn 4 and I don't draw the Mountebank but do draw the Moat. I don't play it.

Turn 5 rolls around, and before I even get my 5th go, I've been hit by 3 Mountebanks. Hit by 3 Mountebanks, before I could even play the Mountebank I opened with. It sucked so bad.

You shouldn't have bought the Moat, Tables. You should've opened Mountebank/nothing.

On a Mountebank/nothing opening, your Mountebank has a 1/11 chance of missing the reshuffle. On Mountebank/Moat, it's 1/6.

Eevee is right. You do make your own shuffle luck.

Bear in mind it's a 4 player game and I'm in last seat. I don't think skipping Moat is worth it considering that, but I dunno.

If I were you I don't skip Moat. That is just your bad luck I think. In normal situation Moat should be able to block a single or two Mountebanks, that's 2-4 junk less

[AdamH]

I actually think Moat is a really good card.