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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2014, 04:44:57 pm »
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2014, 02:25:33 pm »
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Here's a puzzle: How might a mage or a druid acquire a weapon?
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2014, 02:36:57 pm »
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Here's a puzzle: How might a mage or a druid acquire a weapon?

Any class can. Warrior play arathi weapons smith. Sylvannas Windrunner grabs it. Then one of the brewmasters puts it into my hand so that I can play it can have a weapon.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2014, 02:44:27 pm »
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Here's a puzzle: How might a mage or a druid acquire a weapon?
Some methods:

Minion method:

Via MC Tech, Sylvanas, Faceless Manipulator, or Mirror Entity, gain control of an Arathi Weaponsmith or Tirion Fordring. With Mirror Entity only, gain control of Jaraxxus.

With Arathi Weaponsmith or Jaraxxus: Return her/him to hand using Youthful Brewmaster or Dream (from Ysera). Play her/him to equip a weapon from her/his battlecry.
With Tirion Fordring: Let him die and equip a weapon from his deathrattle.


Spell method:

Have Lorewalker Cho in play when your opponent plays Upgrade. Then play Upgrade yourself to equip a weapon.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2014, 02:35:46 pm »
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I just found out that Amaz has a series of puzzle videos. I've only watched one so far, which I'll reproduce in this post as a screenshot.



Question: do you have lethal?
Follow-up: Is lethal guaranteed? If not, how do you give yourself the best possible chance to win if the play fails?

Video link (has solution): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5DiRvUihZE
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2014, 03:11:07 pm »
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I think the right play is to attack with Sylvanas and then Death it. If you get Leeroy, you win. If not, you kill Leeroy with the Whelps, and heal up to 6. This wins immediately 50% of the time, and next turn he can only kill you if he draws Arcane Golem, Huffer, or Unleash (or some unusual card like King Krush or Argent Commander). And you should probably have lethal next turn since he shouldn't have a way of removing multiple minions of yours.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #56 on: July 07, 2014, 06:51:50 pm »
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I think the right play is to attack with Sylvanas and then Death it. If you get Leeroy, you win. If not, you kill Leeroy with the Whelps, and heal up to 6. This wins immediately 50% of the time, and next turn he can only kill you if he draws Arcane Golem, Huffer, or Unleash (or some unusual card like King Krush or Argent Commander). And you should probably have lethal next turn since he shouldn't have a way of removing multiple minions of yours.

I got up to 22 damage...trade 1 Amani + Whelp to kill Kodo; Slyvanus to the face; SW: D her; Leeroy to the Face; play Auchenai; hero power the Amani to enrage; 7 to the Face; 1 Whelp to the Face; Earthen Ring Farseer + 3 to the face.  That's 5 + 6 + 7 + 1 + 3.  Unless he heals or kills you, you are guaranteed a win the next turn with Auchenai + hero power.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #57 on: July 07, 2014, 06:59:50 pm »
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I think the right play is to attack with Sylvanas and then Death it. If you get Leeroy, you win. If not, you kill Leeroy with the Whelps, and heal up to 6. This wins immediately 50% of the time, and next turn he can only kill you if he draws Arcane Golem, Huffer, or Unleash (or some unusual card like King Krush or Argent Commander). And you should probably have lethal next turn since he shouldn't have a way of removing multiple minions of yours.

I got up to 22 damage...trade 1 Amani + Whelp to kill Kodo; Slyvanus to the face; SW: D her; Leeroy to the Face; play Auchenai; hero power the Amani to enrage; 7 to the Face; 1 Whelp to the Face; Earthen Ring Farseer + 3 to the face.  That's 5 + 6 + 7 + 1 + 3.  Unless he heals or kills you, you are guaranteed a win the next turn with Auchenai + hero power.

There aren't any Amanis on the board ...
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #58 on: July 07, 2014, 07:03:19 pm »
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There aren't any Amanis on the board ...

Doh. 

Then I get 21 Damage.  Syl to face, trade for Kodo, SW: D for Leeroy then face, 5 more from minions, 2+3 from reverse heals.  21 damage, 3 to go, he has no minions.  You get 2 damage guaranteed next turn, which isn't a guaranteed win.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2014, 07:10:07 pm »
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I've seen this already. HME's play is the right play.

Edit: Well, what you've already seen him play can influence the decision a bit, but we do not have that info, so it's still the best play.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2014, 07:17:59 pm »
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I've seen this already. HME's play is the right play.

Edit: Well, what you've already seen him play can influence the decision a bit, but we do not have that info, so it's still the best play.

Can you explain why my play would be the "wrong" play?  I'm not arguing so much as trying to learn.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2014, 07:20:20 pm »
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Because you are left with 1 hp and he has hero power, you die on his next turn, guaranteed.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #62 on: July 07, 2014, 07:24:04 pm »
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But even against other options (like killing the Kodo first, or suiciding Whelps to prevent UTH win) it's still the best play. It gives most chances of win and leaves him with as few outs as most other options.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #63 on: July 07, 2014, 07:26:38 pm »
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Because you are left with 1 hp and he has hero power, you die on his next turn, guaranteed.

I completely just missed my own life being at 1 there.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #64 on: July 07, 2014, 09:09:07 pm »
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He could still play Leeroy, because theat Leeroy could be a faceless copy of your Leeroy. We don't know what's been played either, since if he's already played both UTH or something the play could be different.
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« Reply #65 on: July 08, 2014, 12:13:42 pm »
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Another good one from Amaz's puzzle series (which aren't all really puzzles, so I don't think it's too crazy to select out the ones here that are).



Goal: Clear the board.
Follow-up: Find a second way to clear the board.

Video (with solution): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyipfFs5psE
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #66 on: July 08, 2014, 01:31:16 pm »
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He could still play Leeroy, because theat Leeroy could be a faceless copy of your Leeroy. We don't know what's been played either, since if he's already played both UTH or something the play could be different.

You do have to consider that hunters generally do not play Faceless.

Amaz's puzzle #11 is a good one, mostly cuz he failed and didn't spot lethal :P
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2014, 01:32:10 pm »
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CoH, HP on pyro, SM on argus, argus attacks azure, pws on pyro, pyro attacks sylvana
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2014, 02:36:08 pm »
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CoH, HP on pyro, SM on argus, argus attacks azure, pws on pyro, pyro attacks sylvana
What does HP mean?
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2014, 02:54:43 pm »
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Hero Power.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #70 on: July 08, 2014, 06:51:24 pm »
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He could still play Leeroy, because theat Leeroy could be a faceless copy of your Leeroy. We don't know what's been played either, since if he's already played both UTH or something the play could be different.

You do have to consider that hunters generally do not play Faceless.

Amaz's puzzle #11 is a good one, mostly cuz he failed and didn't spot lethal :P

Well yes, but it's a puzzle. Many things in the game could change the puzzle and we have no info about style of decks or what has been played.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #71 on: July 11, 2014, 10:33:37 am »
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Goal: Clear the board.
Follow-up: Find a second way to clear the board.

Followup solution: PW: Shield on Pyromancer, draw Auchenai Soul Priest. Auchenai, CoH + Pyromancer should wipe the board.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #72 on: July 11, 2014, 11:12:04 am »
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Goal: Clear the board.
Follow-up: Find a second way to clear the board.

Followup solution: PW: Shield on Pyromancer, draw Auchenai Soul Priest. Auchenai, CoH + Pyromancer should wipe the board.
Wouldn't the CoH kill the Pyromancer before its effect triggers? I actually don't know!

There are two ways to clear the board even without using whatever card is drawn.
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #73 on: July 24, 2014, 07:18:09 pm »
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New puzzle:

What are some card combos where you can pull off the Flamestrike effect?  I'm looking for non-mage plays that can do at least 4 damage to all minions for less than 7.  Two to start off with:

Rogue for 6 mana: Hero Power, Deadly Poison, Deadly Poison, Blade Flurry (5 damage to all enemies)
Warlock for 5 mana:  Wisp, Power Overwhelming, Shadowflame (5 damage to all minions)

What's the cheapest you can do?  What's the most damage you can do?
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Re: Hearthstone puzzles
« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2014, 12:40:04 am »
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Priest has the well-known 4-mana Auchenai Soulpriest + CoH, which even leaves a guaranteed 3/1.

Paladin, alas, needs 8 mana for 2x Kobold Geomancer, Consecration. Druid is even worse.
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