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15026
O is being... Uncannily helpful for D1.

Bad O. Stop it. Do I need to random vote based on timestamp?

15027
you ctrl f the post.  you don't understand it. you look at the preceding post.  it isn't hard.

Neither is *gasp* hitting the quote button. Stop playing to a Mafia wincon if you're town. All you're doing is making it harder for everybody to read your intentions.

15028
it's the preceding post.  It shouldn't be necessary.
It shouldn't be necessary now. But 40 pages from now? It's incredibly, and by your defense intentionally, unhelpful.

15029
Dignity is a losing tactic in a mafia game.

15030
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 21, 2012, 01:35:53 pm »
Hmm, Morgrim, you vote first. For now, could you please vote Yes?

15031
I suspect O and Frisk more than Tables, though admittedly not very much.

Also, I don't suspect Axxle the way everybody else does. We (not me, though) already mislynched him once. That buys my sympathy.

Sympathy is a losing tactic in a Mafia game.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 21, 2012, 01:30:44 pm »
There is only ONE thing that I'm considering as an option outside what I've posted, but I need to reread to decide on which is more likely.

Well seeing as what you've posted has a 0% chance of being correct, I'd say the other is more likely. Seriously, don't let something that happened before the first mission even went ahead cause you to lose the game for us. I'm over it and I think you should start thinking about other things too. We need all 4 RO to vote yes to a mission for it to go ahead now. That includes you.

Trust me, I am considering it. Strongly. I don't generally hold grudges (and certainly never do to a meta-game level), but I got such a BAD vibe early from you, it's tough.

I also recognize your playstyle is just that way sometimes (especially early in games), so... Yeah. I understand where you're coming from at this time though, and would NOT put a  WIFOM play out of eH's tactics.

So, considering. Considering.


15033
Ah, to be fair, I had forgotten about SFS OSC investigating Tables. Still, he's about in the right place in my list. Not high enough to waste energy building a case around, but nit clear either. There are a number of things that could read false-positive on an investigation, and there just hasn't been enough from Tables himself to clear his name with me. He might belong in the bottom subset, but still at the top of that list.

15034
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 21, 2012, 01:17:24 pm »
Err, "town read" = RO read.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 21, 2012, 01:16:19 pm »
eH, you entertain me. Your desperation to spread around suspicion is fun to watch.

I agree with the logic of TINAS's proposal post, but then, had he posted anything other than that it would have been pretty ridiculous.

You're right, you can't "force through" this round of voting because of my NC vote - something you've been trying and trying to get me to burn.

As for the rest of TINAS's play, well, no. I don't think it's been particularly trustworthy. In fact, it's been relatively non existent. I *love* how you still claim to have a strong town read on him, even if it means that WoG+Morgrim+TINAS+Myself = 4 RO, meaning you couldn't be. Amazing how those numbers add up. Ah, but that's right, you'de rather suspect someone off the team of 3 that just put the Resistance at win-1. Lulz.

There is only ONE thing that I'm considering as an option outside what I've posted, but I need to reread to decide on which is more likely.

15036
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 21, 2012, 01:03:47 pm »
Do we think Tables is the kind of guy who would give us all RO at the beginning just for the lolz?

Now that WOULD be entertaining, but I can't see him bastadizing the first game of forum Resistance.

15037
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 21, 2012, 12:15:27 pm »
I intend to vote against this team, because there is certainly at least 1 Spy on it.

Do you SEE how scummy eH has been? There is NO reason to push this through if you're Resistance and not on the team. He knows it's likely I'll decline, meaning I get control, and would propose:

WoG, Robz, Morgrim, and myself

This is a winning team (I believe), which would cause him a game over. By voting yes, he may reveal himself as a spy, but could still push the mission through for a Spy success.

I an voting No. I highly encourage WoG or Morgrim to do the same, preventing eH from being able to force a Spy mission victory.

15038
If you quote an emoticon it counts. I see 6 emoticons in the last 8 posts, people. I'm not happy.

"If you quote an emoticon it counts" - Ha! +1 for the laugh. Now I have a new task. Only quote posts that contain emoticons (but never use them myself).

15039
Reading your QT's are good for your health.

15040
I would be ok with that turn of events ;)

No, you lynch counter-claims first. Don't you know Mafia rules? ;D

15041
Roleclaim: Jester

He's lying. I'm Jester. Lynch all Liars.

15042
Anyway, it's time to put my vote where my big mouth is. Vote: Axxle2

Sigh.

Despite it being the 50 millionth person he's voted for, I can't really take issue with this one, since he's made it quite clear (albeit not in THAT post) why his vote is there... And at least with this vote he's not sheeping, but actually voting on his own reads.

15043
Unvote

I'm going to bed. I'm too confused/conflicted to be voting for anybody right now, and I've got to be up for work at 3:30.

Jo... Nevermind. I've said all I can say.

Here's a quick rundown of where I stand:

Most Likely Mafia to Least Likely:
Popofctown
Axxle
---
Glooble
Grujah
Jotheonah
Tables
---
Dsell
C.F.
O
SFS
Robz
Galzria

I'd be shocked if anything in that list order surprised anyone.

Anyway, to bed.

15044
I see this game is proceeding Chicago-style - vote early, vote often!

Vote: Captain_Frisk for voting for a newbie. Don't discourage newbies!

Ahh, good 'ol home town voting style. I like it. By the way, I created a potion that let's me vote after death, even if I'm buried in a neighboring Vineyard like Indiana - it works by keeping my registrar open in this Vineyard, which doesn't share records with that Vineyard. So while I may be dead there, I can still vote here. Yessir. It's true.

15045
vote: Galzria just to get any and all crazy out of the game now.

15046
Well, as far as scummyness goes, Axxle has been behind Pops at #2 on my radar. His voting against me quickly when I made my case on Robz (and the ridiculousness of his reason more than anything "Galz just doesn't want another strong thinker in the town" uhh... Right), his lack of anything substantive to say, his push for a wagon to roll... That's just off the top of my head without looking back.

Jo, I have played 3 games with you now. The first, we were unfortunately on opposite sides, and I knew it. Had I been town, you played a very enjoyable game. I would love to have town like that around. In the second, I got an uncanny read on you D1, that set both of us up to fall. Here, game 3, you've not played like the person I looked forward to having on my team. It makes me sad, but you shouldn't take it personally, and the "oh, pity me" argument doesn't go over well. Pops did it a few pages back and it irked me there too.

I guess what I'm saying is, while my reads have 2 (actually, 3) people more SCUMMY than you, my gut says "I've seen town Jo. This is not town Jo. I've seen SK Jo. This is not SK Jo. Jo  roleclaimed vanilla already, so this is not PR Jo. I've never seen this Jo before. The only role I've never seen Jo play is Mafia. This must be Mafia Jo".

You claim kicking and screaming that you're not Mafia. Let's say, fine, I believe you. I go back to voting Pops. You don't get lynched, you don't get NK'd (and goodness, town or Mafia you won't). Now what? And let's say on the OUTSIDE chance you ARE Mafia... If I (or we, whatever) let you get away with playing like this... Well, we've basically screwed ourselves for any future Mafia games.

Do you SEE how the way you're playing is hurting the town? O is right, Axxle's argument that "survivalist is scum" is crap (for the record, and I corrected Axxle, I personally said it was irksome, not scummy). I shouldn't be on your bandwagon because you're not even in my top THREE. Yet here I am, willing to lynch you on the CHANCE you might be scum, even though I believe it more likely there is scum on your wagon. But it rids us of a Jo that I'm not honestly sure what to do with.

Yeah, it's a bit of a bind, and I'm rather conflicted about it.

15047
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 20, 2012, 08:23:25 pm »
Ah, really? Could have sworn I took WoG. I meant to. Ugh. Alright, I apologize. Too many forum games. Still, after the results of last mission (which I would have been more surprised to see fall) and your constant pushing of TINAS, whom I have a very strong Spy read on, AND your attempt to get me to burn my NC, I still believe you most likely spy #2.

Although my case isn't AS strong, it's still more than conceivable that you were a spy trying to gain trust by letting M1 pass than any of us 3 were spys playing some long game by passing Mission 2. Hell, you said it yourself: Spy's vote pass on Mission 1.

The fact that you were there does nothing to help your defense.

15048
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 20, 2012, 08:00:12 pm »
Or, fourth option, I was right to begin with about TINAS.

You also knew I had early suspicion of Robz. That why he was with you and your spy partner in mission vote 2.1. He took 2.2, so of course he was there, and when he proposed TINAS go as well, you pushed WoG to keep the same team in the desperate hope that it passed.

Having failed twice, you tried to convince me to veto a team (Morgrim's 2.4) that you knew had no spies on it, AND I would've burned my NC vote.

You've been backhand defending TINAS all game, never saying you trust him directly, but that you distrust me more. When asked for the arguments between him and I, I responded, he went quiet. From that you gathered "trust" in him, while still remaining "uncomfortable" with my being on a team.

Twice now WoG and I have gone out. Once with Morgrim. Both times we were successful. Team, don't let the spy's mislead you at this point. We're very very close to ending this here.

15049
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Resistance: The Empire Must Fall
« on: June 20, 2012, 07:17:55 pm »
Yawn. No surprises here. Moving on. TINAS?

15050
Ugh. More and more defensive as the pressure mounts.

Alright. I'll trust my gut this time, and because he's driving me up the wall. If I DON'T vote Jo, and he's scum, I'll never forgive myself if he goes on to win. If I don't vote Pops and he goes on to win,  at least I'll feel outplayed, but not foolish.

Vote: Jotheonah

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