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13526
well that makes no sense.

If I'm scum I KNEW O would flip town all along. I sure would not be freaking out about it. Nor would I have played the way I did.

Yeah, I'm just trolling you. I don't find you nearly as suspicious as your brother (who we've already proved you can't read, btw ;D). Although your recent posts, and trying to call the kettle black on being inconsistent is pretty ridiculous. You basically called everybody idiots all day for not voting O, then when it was apparent O was going to be the only viable lynch you unvoted, then pointed the finger at everyone who lynched him. What sort of behavior does that remind you of?

Step A) Push a wagon
Steb B) Get off the wagon once it's apparent it's a'rollin
Step C) Accuse everybody who's on board of making it jump the cliff

Hmm?

13527
Whoo, this is fun. Look at Jo twist knowing he was in the wrong all day and O has called him out repeatedly over it. Nothing like trying to save face and avoid a scum lynch tomorrow!

13528
Well it's happened before. Especially because there still seems to be some question about the validity of the hammer?

A statement like that has never - never - come from scum. Not with it's simplicity. Scum have continued to deceive before after hammer, but that statement is as genuine as it comes, and you know it.

**O, if I'm wrong, F-You man. ;)

But in all seriousness, that was the classic "I'm town and lynched" resignation post. It's been made by almost every townie to date. To suggest it's anything other than that is rather ridiculous.

13530
...he hasn't even flipped yet.

You think he was just lying when he said "I'm hammered? Town btw"?

13531
What did you expect?

Yay! We were right all along and he was town! Whoo!

?

And you've been consistent? Please.

13532
Are you being intentionally dense on this to try and cover yourself?

A) O was caught in an inconsistency. Period.
B) The inconsistency if he were scum would mean he lied, which doesn't make much sense.
C) His reaction read very town
D) After everything is said and done, see A.

A) alone was enough reason to make his lynch today the logical one. Certainly nothing else was going to top that as it comes as close to "lynch all liars" as you can get (with the only viable way of proving his statements being a flip/.

Now, I find it beyond hilarious that you would have the balls to call others out for "inconsistent behavior" (By the way, read back - I've said all day that O is the logical lynch regardless) when you come out AFTER his lynch saying "Yeah... I really don't think we should lynch him anymore" - AFTER having gone on and on ranting about what idiots we all were for falling for his "crap" and not just lynching him RL DAYS ago.

LOL

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« on: August 23, 2012, 11:33:35 am »
Axxle isn't around to update the official call for allies, but as I'm going first anyway and he has my CO regardless, I'll just post here we Mite's have great respect for the Pacifist Nation. While we may have differences in our beliefs and methodology, there is nothing more beautiful than a blooming power showing it's superiority over the other Nations.

Thus out of respect, Mite shall be sending 4 to the offense.

13534
pretty long twilight if O actually is lynched so I dont think he is which is a plus

Yeah. I think Morgrim just hasn't posted yet, but I'll Vote: Glooble just in case.

13535
Did you guys lynch O without me even voting for him. FWIW I'm no longer in favor of an O lynch.
lol





(this post is semi-tribute to O)

I second that emotion.

13536
.demrifnoC

13537
I'm hammered? town btw.

Yeah. Ugh. Sorry Mate, was going off vote-count. Didn't know I was hammering. Can we start lynching Joth/Glooble yet? Better yet, Cayvie! Shooooot one! O's choice with dying words! O?

13538
Well, I've said for awhile that I think O is todays Go lynch, but man, does nobody else see how scummy Jo and especially Glooble are? Man, I'm willing to eat my words on that and Vote: O - Prove me wrong buddy and flip scum! ... Otherwise, man, I think we should really look at lynching Glooble/Joth tomorrow.

What was the case against jo and Gloob again?

We really wanted to lynch the guy that everyone now seems to agree we should lynch.

Although, Glooble does seem a little opportunistic-scummy. So do I, but I know I'm town.

You were more just like strangely crazy-galzria-level-confident rather than opportunistic, IIRC.

PSH! I got NOTHING on Timchen confident! (Yes, you directed this at Joth, but I gotta defend you using me as a meta-example. :P)

13539
Like I noted before however... I would love to be proven wrong and completely played by O. Scum lynch >>> Being proved right. ;D

13540
Well, I've said for awhile that I think O is todays Go lynch, but man, does nobody else see how scummy Jo and especially Glooble are? Man, I'm willing to eat my words on that and Vote: O - Prove me wrong buddy and flip scum! ... Otherwise, man, I think we should really look at lynching Glooble/Joth tomorrow.

What was the case against jo and Gloob again?

Largely that they jumped the O lynch without ever considering that in a rolemadness game that there might, just maaaaybe, be something else that explains this situation... Because man, why the hell would O lie? Seriously? I DO think we should lynch O based on evidence (even though his reaction reads town to me), but the fact that they jumped him so hard read scummy to me. Big time. Add in Glooble's history of pro-lurker play as scum, and...

13541
we're lynching me even though I know all of your guts say I'm town  :'(

I say you're town, but my evidence says otherwise. :'(

I'll become your pet sheep tomorrow if you flip town though.

13542
skimming through this, while sobering.

eHalc, I don't think what you are referring to is a Hider but a Redirector.
Hider is this.
A is Hider. A hides behind B. A cannot be targeted. if B is targeted A is targeted too.


Also, I made the same mistake, but "Stash BP being used" means that Stash BP was activated, not that it t.has necessarily soaked a shot. He had to activate it in order for it to have any use.

This Masq is something like RMMI Masq and NOTHING like Murder Mistery Masq  ;D

Funny, just catching up while getting drunk. You should stop sobering up and join me! ;D

Well, I've said for awhile that I think O is todays Go lynch, but man, does nobody else see how scummy Jo and especially Glooble are? Man, I'm willing to eat my words on that and Vote: O - Prove me wrong buddy and flip scum! ... Otherwise, man, I think we should really look at lynching Glooble/Joth tomorrow.

13543
And the shop is now closed. Glooble is looking over the PMs, I have to write out the rules, things will happen tomorrow or Friday. Expect awesome PMs.

I just received mine!

"You're puuuure Vanilla! HA!"

13544
Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 22, 2012, 08:48:00 pm »
Eh, I never got the benefit of being a town noob, but I think I would be hesitant to cast the D1 hammer under such strenuous circumstances.

13545
Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 22, 2012, 08:39:08 pm »
I actually think Angrybirds is town.  :o

13546
Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:42:05 pm »
Hey, note to people still alive tomorrow.  Look at the people who pushed hardest for ehunt to be lynched (especially those that justified it not by saying that ehunt was lying, but by saying that Insomniac was telling the truth and THEREFORE ehunt is scum), don't be distracted by people who are pushing suspicion to me, they are just townies looking for scumbuddies and relationships (which according to yuma was RIDICULOUS when I tried to do the same with him and Eevee, who I still suspect...irony), and I hope they realize they are wrong so that they can lynch actual scum one of these times.

Do you think you will be dying tonight?

For a long time, I suspected I would be because I've been so obviously pro-town, so I always knew I'd be trying to post my last thoughts at the deadline.

You've never been "obvpro-town".

13547
Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:22:42 pm »
L - 1 with morgrim expressing willingness = bad news bears...

Please go after O next, not Insomniac.

No one answered my arg that fakeclaiming doc is bad  scum play with multiple scum factions

I agree man, that's why I keep saying these aren't fakeclaims. #745 and Galz in #709 actually makes this argument but never applies it to ehunt for some reason.

Because those arguments don't apply to eHunt's claim. They apply to a counterclaim, as scum, when so many better routes were available. The only reason to essentially COUNTERCLAIM the same role in such a role-rich game (and that is essentially what Insomniacs claim must be viewed as) is because you're town, telling the truth. Do you REALLY believe scum would counterclaim the same role just to get eHunt lynched? LOL!

eHunt was headed towards a lynch, he had to claim something eventually.  As town he would've waited, not wanting to out himself. As scum he would claim early to draw counterclaims. I absolutely think that eHunt = scum > two truthful doctor claims, and for scum Insomniac to make that claim would've been idiotic.

13548
Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:06:28 pm »
Yo, seriously.  Why are we lynching ehunt.  Do not do it.  He is as good as gone this night anyway, and it is very critical that we vote to kill scum.  People are saying ehunt is scummier than Insomniac and that may be true.  But he's not scummy, I'm pretty certain he is exactly what he claims to be.

as Sparky says, "we should vote to KILL SCUM".  Insomniac and ehunt aren't scum as far as I see it, and it will be a terrible mistake when either of them flip and we realize they are telling the truth.  Take a good hard look at the people on those lists.  Scum want to lynch these town PR badly.  We need to make them waste a night kill on that.

In this post: Shraeye would rather continue to build more wagons and out more PR's, believing the most likely outcome of events to date are that we were dealt both town doctors, and managed to push both to claim as our first two wagons!

13549
Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 22, 2012, 06:40:59 pm »
Not lynching one of these claims and instead pushing to force even more people to claim is fairly idiotic and borderline extreme scummy. And the logical lynch here is eHunt.
100% agree with the rest of your post, and people who vote for Insomniac atm (hint:sparky) should seriously read it with thought.

However, this is not as black and white as you say imo. I agree we might be better off just lynching ehunt, but fakeclaiming is actually quite risky for mafia here. 16 players and 52 cards, counterclaims are a very real threat (looks like bit less than 30%). Getting counterclaimed really sucks for mafia, because individual power roles are not as big of a deal here than they would be say in your standard two power role setup.

I agree that counterclaimed would suck for scum in this situation, because at best it's a 1-1 trade, but not claiming anything and just getting lynched accomplished nothing for your scumfaction. Now, you could argue that it wasn't clear eHunt was going to get lynched, as he was only at L-3... But that argument holds true for both scum eHunt and town eHunt. Claiming then was just poor play (obviously he disagrees with me).


13550
Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 22, 2012, 06:21:14 pm »
Honestly, is quite simple:

Compare the two claims from the perspective of:

Scum lying
Town telling the truth

See if you can reconcile eHunts claim with either of the above... It should be clear that both fit as possibilities. Now do the same for Insomniac... Only one that fits is town Insomniac. I've already spelled out why.

This leaves two outcomes:

Both are town, in which case we managed to force <i>the only two possible town doctor roles in the entire game</i> to claim D1,

OR

eHunt is scum and Insomniac is a deadman. (Well, he's a deadman regardless I suppose).

In any case, I have SUCH a hard time buying that:

A) Both Doctor roles were drawn
B) We found them both on our first two claims.

Not lynching one of these claims and instead pushing to force even more people to claim is fairly idiotic and borderline extreme scummy. And the logical lynch here is eHunt.

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