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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 20, 2012, 04:12:19 pm »Why am I scummy, again?It's something you did 12 pages ago. Wouldn't you like to know?
Why am I scummy, again?It's something you did 12 pages ago. Wouldn't you like to know?
If we're going for lurkers. Vote: OHe's active in other threads all the time, but he might just have not noticed this thing started already. It's been what, a couple of hours?
What does he have real life or something?
Oh so you are suspecting the tunnel gives a cop-ability when it's on a town player, and rolecop when it's on scum? What makes you think that?so scum shot O and our vig shout Insom.
I don't see a conflict.
I wish to clear this up: I did not shoot Insomniac. However, he has said that he has changed roles more than once; I figured that I shot the person who was actually Tunnel last night.My role switched twice, the first shuffle I was stash, I have no idea what it did, I am not stash OR tunnel anymore
In mafia VI, would you have guessed how awesome PPS was going to play?Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.Fair enough. Unvote.
Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?
Because I'm not scum.
Also, all things being equal, we're probably better off lynching a noob. Look what happened in MVII (what happened was the 3 most experience players died Day 1, Night 1, Day 2... and scum cruised to an easy win).
Aren't we actually better off lynching Mafia? Do we really want to kill off town numbers just to get the people who don't really know what they're doing out of the game?
Of course we're better off lynching mafia. Is that actually a question?
Not a sincere one, no. I just mean, why should we have any motivation in our decision whatsoever other than trying to root out who is actually scum?
Because, knowing that no town has ever killed a scum on Day 1, it's worthwhile keeping in mind a need to preserve quality town players.
The only way Robz can answer that question (besides "I'm town") is by roleclaiming, which is hugely anti-town obviously. What other reason could there be?I wasn't rolefishing...mostly since I didnt know what that is. I can guess though. Mostly just trying to stimulate some conversation.Rolefishing is not very pro-town.Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.Fair enough. Unvote.
Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?
Rolefishing is not very pro-town.Hey guys, let's ease up on the RVS votes for me a bit here. Wouldn't want to accidentally lynch me already. It only takes 5 votes, people.Fair enough. Unvote.
Any reasoning as to why it shouldn't be you, though?
The problem with any article is that any scum player can read it as well, and act accordingly. Just think for yourself!For you more experienced folk, though, what are some of the strategies for going about this? What should I look for in people's posts? Is Eevee talking too much? Is that suspicious? Is anyone being too quiet? Is that suspicious? Does anyone have valid suspicions with evidence that they'd like to share yet? Can I trust any of you scum?
Well I'm not experienced, but O hasn't said anything since being the first to confirm. Maybe he's asleep or something. Would a rundown of timezones be helpful to narrow the scope of potential future excuses? Also, does anyone know of a good source (like a mafiascum article) on Day 1 behavior. It seems unlikely to me that scum will be so careless as to out themselves without some clever prodding.
I dont understand why both mafia members would ever send in a kill. Like, they agree on a target and a killer and then that person sends in the order?@GeoLib
Yeah, one guy sends in the kill order. It does matter who it is though, because possible jailkeepers gonna possibly jailkeep.
(This question is kind of silly, but for example I liked how Jorbles thought it would be smart for mafia to hedge their bets a bit by having the goon do the kill instead of the rolecop.)
Oh. That makes sense. So let's say you and Robz both send in NKs. Whoever sent his last is the one who is considered to be doing the NK, and if they're jailed then it doesn't happen, correct?
Also, I think jorbles, wasn't saying that it was better for you to hedge your bets. More like, "well the rolecop gets to do the investigating, so the goon should get to do the killing." only fair. Is that the strategy you'll be following?
This was the thing I always hated the most about IRL mafia. We played with idiotic rules that allowed the doctor to protect himself, so almost every time the most experienced* player lived to see day 2, town instantly went "oh, Eevee lives, he has to be scum!". And it was actually correct to think so, because I died N1 so so often. Frustrating stuff!As for my own play, I was actually trying to look scummy. Because I was the Jailkeeper, I had a duty to live. And I thought I would likely get NKed pretty quickly unless scum had a reason to leave me alive, and the only reason I could give them was to look suspicious myself.
At the end of the day, it was hard to believe that you would keep playing in such a scummy manner. For that reason, we were fearful that you would wake up on d2 and play a normal, protown game and be a valuable addition to town.
if you're one-shot bulletproof, do you get told when you're shot?AFAIK you are not, but not sure and this is role madness anyways.
Robz, what would have been your least favorite role to receive in this game?Easy. Vanilla Townie. You?
2) I have read some of the nose-stealing thread, thereby being forewarned of Robz and Eevee shenanigans.What do you mean by this? We were both town, and Robz didn't post much at all before his early demise. I on the other hand lived until the end, which proved to be the town's demise because I'm bad at playing well.
Fishing for information of how you would play as mafia is obvscum? Sure..Everyone seems to think mafia IV was the bomb, makes me sad for missing it and never even reading any of it. :/ Oh well, teaches me to never miss a game again!
I echo Robz, knowing some background would be nice.
So, a survey to all the new faces:
1) Any prior playing experience?
2) Have you read any of the games here, if yes, what games?
3) Does your role involve trying to kill all townies by orchestrating a night kill with your team mates?
4) If we were a mafia pair, which of us would do the kill tonight?
Also, fishing for this much information so quickly is obvscum, right?
He is not though, obvscum.Don't mind Eevee. If you provide a lot of info, he'll clear you every time.Uhm 4) was a serious question. Answering "nice try" is like saying "don't you know I can't respond to this truthfully!?" How no one else is voting for Robz for his scumslip is beyond me, but personslly I'm happy I found his scum partner already.
Oh, I see I've screwed myself already. Didn't take long. It was more that I have serious trouble answering hypothetical questions that don't apply to me. Now to shut up for a bit.
I do find it a bit scary that Volt is able to hop in, say something and a bunch of people agrees witout even questioning him.Volt does have an unbelievable ability of always sounding rational, unbiased and composed. Shouldn't always fall for it.. but I do.
Surely you see why reading everything would be beneficial? Personally I always feel guilty for being so lazy with re-reading, and always admire the guys who make the effortto do that (Volt comes to mind as an example).Whoever we decide to lynch, we need to do it well enough in advance of deadline to allow time for any roleclaims. Given the setup, there appears to be only about a 25% chance of each individual player being a VT. So odds are whoever we push to L-1 is going to roleclaim and then we need time to deal with that.
I actually think we need to stop this "you need to claim at L-1 shenanigans" that f.ds is into.
And look, I am following everything past to point of my joining, don't see why it is a problem.