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PPS wagon gaining speed a tad too fast. How about morgrim guys?

Nah.

I don't have any read on PPS (how could I lol). He has been quiet, but he said he'd be V/LA and tons of other people have been quiet too. Like Morgrim. So, while I certainly would normally prefer lynching someone I don't have a read on over nolynching, PPS wagon got off FAST. People were jumping on it left and right. So so many people, it's hard to believe they'd all be town, right? Is that not worth being worried about?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 29, 2012, 01:16:40 am »
First of all, great post Geo, we agree on a lot of points and you argue them a lot better than I do. Got a pretty big town read from that post, I acknowledge scum would want to appear helpful (and might even unvote me to gain cred) so not treating you as obvtown but definitely my least favorite lynch target for today either way.

2ndly, as I said, I think your reasons for voting me were perfectly reasonable. That's why I didn't OMGUS you, because nightkilling O would in reality have been a clever and plausible scum tactic. A scum team with me or Frisk in it could very well have done just that! I especially liked how you didn't find the actually townie things I have done scummy (unlike ashersky).

Now ashersky on the other hand, while doesn't join the wagon on me, definitely implies he is interested in participating in it. (Maybe he didn't jump on it yet because he realized GeoLib wasn't exactly convinced yet, and would have unvoted if I made it to L-1 this early.) And the reasons for his vote are just really fabricated and feel sort of forced. Now, sure, ashersky could be a mistaken townie, but tunneling me blindly like that just looks he really wanted my wagon to pick off, and scum tends to have those feelings towards townies that argue they are scum. Note, ashersky's mafia team might just have decided killing me at night is going to look too obvious, it's bit of a WIFOM but that's the first level which I and I'm sure others often fall back to trying to avoid overthinking simple things.

One more thing, I explicitly made sure not to claim VT (or any other role), so ashersky's "If we believe their claims" bit looks like a scumslip to me.. because all I claimed was to be town, and everyone is implying that at this point.. only scum is unsure what they are going to claim yet. Does this make sense?

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Ooh, I sleep just a little bit and you guys go crazy! I like it.

The only game I've played with town-yuma was murder mystery, and there he died day 1 so didn't really get a very good feel of how he plays town apart from the fact that it mildly suggests he plays it somehow differently.

Robz & others, do you agree that O is most probably town if I'm town (given how he turned the suspicion away from me day 1)? I understand you are not willing to clear O based on that because you can't know my alignment, but am I wrong to do it?

I don't particularly like Insomniac as a target. Robz, Frisk and yuma are my top three. Yuma and Frisk have played super similarly. Yuma's behavior I think is in line with his behavior as mafia early, the problem with Frisk is I feel he often plays the he has here. While I don't agree that either Robz or Insomniac has to be scum, out of them Robz is coming off way worse I think which also is weird because Ins always reads scummy to me. Who did I not mention yet? Theorel is playing like he usually does, being analytical and liking his theory talk. I don't get a super towny feeling from his posts, he definitely would be playing like this if he was scum too. Galzria I'm still not wanting to lynch because he derailed my lynch earlier so I feel other targets are for sure scummier. Have ever seen ehunt play scum?
I'm happy where my vote lies (yuma).

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PPS wagon gaining speed a tad too fast. How about morgrim guys?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:51:14 pm »
I appreciate Jorbles waiting, maybe the ashersky wagon would have gotten stronger with more time. I'm generally opposed to lynches well before the deadline, not that this one was particularly bad.

@Frisk
Most of the guys alive are newer players, even I don't think scum necessarily wants to avoid a wagon like Robz's at all costs. I think it would be different if it was started by mafia, but O made it REALLY easy for them. I think you all focusing your search to off-wagon is a huge mistake today. I think we have a better chance at finding scum from the wagon.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM1: Forum Semi-Blitz Mafia 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:29:01 pm »
Oh accidental quoting on mobile. Well, I too am sorry to hear that.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: ZM1: Forum Semi-Blitz Mafia 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:28:04 pm »
Yes, unless it starts at a really weird time.
/in I'm about to be unemployed anyway

Sorry to hear that.

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Oh, rhymes.  Rhymes are easy.  Turkey.
An easy way to get around the restriction is to just put nonsense words at the end.  Jerky.
I actually think it is that he has to write all his posts in the form of a poem (which is considerably harder). You should read the one's he has made this far again, they are just incredible!

You should read the poems I wrote for RMMI. ;)

I will be critical and say that Archetype's rhythm is way off!  And if he only has to write poems, he could freeverse.
I dont even know english! Archetypes poems are funny and light, yours were cryptic and hard. :( But I'm sure they were awesome and I did read every single one of them, not that I ever understood anything.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 12:14:53 pm »
eevee - why do you clear GeoLib but not Jorbles?  Because Jorbles states he would have voted RobZ?
I do not clear GeoLib, I don't mean to say that. I mean to say I don't find his actions scummy this far, so I can't get sure enough to bring myself to vote for him.

Jorbles repeatedly said he would hammer (would have hammered) if needed, so he is quite different. But saying that is sort of townish, he could have smugly stayed off the wagon but didn't want to.

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Oh, rhymes.  Rhymes are easy.  Turkey.
An easy way to get around the restriction is to just put nonsense words at the end.  Jerky.
I actually think it is that he has to write all his posts in the form of a poem (which is considerably harder). You should read the one's he has made this far again, they are just incredible!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 12:05:34 pm »
Does no one else feel like Geo (who, by the way, is voting for you, Eevee) deserves a closer look?

I definitely do. As I outlined above from my perspective they were the two who made a point of being off the wagon on Robz. I don't see either of them as being more scummy than the other at this point. Eevee's panicked reaction to his possible lynch isn't any more suspicious to me than Geolib calling Eevee out. I'm actually surprised that Eevee isn't calling Geolib out, is there something to read there? If I were town and in their situation I would be looking strongly at the other one. Not going to vote for Eevee at this point. I think there's some merit to getting him to calm down and think this through a bit.
Oh I'm not really freaked out at all! Just really think ashersky's reasons are bs. Sorry if this seems like I'm upset, I really am not.

Suspecting GeoLib for doing the exact thing I did (staying off the Robz wagon, Robz who flipped town) is just not the best direction at the moment I don't think. Like, I don't think of a way to catch him atm if he is scum. He has done nothing scummy! Not voting for a townie is definitely ok in my books, so is starting today's discussion by presenting a reasonable case and voting for me. He is wrong about me, sometimes townies are. Unless he starts acting scummier, I don't think I'll be voting for him, even though he could very well be scum. Also he seems pretty useful to have around.

Ashersky, Cuzz and Jorbles are my three main suspects at the moment, in that order.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 12:01:03 pm »
I was checking the thread with my phone, that's why I was confused about the amount of votes. You can notice the fact I was on phone from the lack of capitalization and also from me telling you. I think that's an excellent example of a mistake that is not at all scummy.. seriously, what on earth do you figure I was thinking "Okay, I'm going to pretend I'm at L-1, surely no one will notice I'm actually not!!". Makes absolutely no sense, does it?

Oh and you think me derailing the lynch of a confirmed townie (robz) by trying to introduce a new target (you) is scummy now? Uh?

Vote: ashersky, sorry buddy you are looking like you want to make me look bad even though you have nothing. Neither of those things is AT ALL damning!

Wow, that was an unexpected response.  I wrote a post outlining why I could highly suspect you, but temper that with reason and discuss the need to look at someone else, and you...get super defensive?

@Frisk: I will clarify that I don't suspect Eevee is scum because he suspects me.  I did say that Eevee trying to start a wagon on me was a reason, which is different than Eevee's repeated claims that I'm scum.  It's just as possible Eevee (as scum) knows I'm town and would push my lynch for that reason, right?

As for Eevee's claim that he was "derailing the lynch of a confirmed townie (Robz)" as a positive on his ledger strikes me as revisionist, since the only way he could have known for sure Robz was town on D1 was to be scum.  So he was actually trying to derail the lynch of someone who ended up flipping town, which definitely reads differently.

Back to Eevee, your extreme overreaction to my post would be enough to make me comfortable putting you at L-1.  I think it would be informative for the group if anyone unvotes or hammers right away.  Still, it's early, and losing town wouldn't be helpful.

Does no one else feel like Geo (who, by the way, is voting for you, Eevee) deserves a closer look?

Uuh, I don't know if defensive is the right word. You were accusing me for reasons that just are not real, I pointed that out.

Scum has a motive to lynch townies, town wants to save them. I tried to save a townie by building an alternative wagon on you, obviously I didn't KNOW Robz was town, but what is your point? How do you read my actions then?

I do acknowledge the possibility of Geo being scum, but he just hasn't done anything scummy yet really. Voting for me with a case I understand completely does not make him scummy in my eyes. His reasons were ok, yours were not.

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Quote this post if you want us to vote for you.

Quote this post if you want us to lynch you.

Quote this post if you think some player has a power that releases you.

Quote this post if it will be removed after Day 1 automatically.
These should be in separate posts, no?

He can't quote selectively? Oh man.

That's why I find it so unlikely.  His restriction, if real, is far worse than what I had, and mine was reduced.
It's different though. Yours was only annoying (especially for people on mobile devices), Insomniacs is clearly meant to make communication harder. The on archetype is also pretty harsh in this regard.

Also, we kind of "cracked" your code already, figured out how to understand you. Maybe this is a mini-game where we have to do the same for Insomniac to understand him!

Archetype, do you know of a way to set you free? Would you like us to try that too?

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Quote this post if you want us to vote for you.

Quote this post if you want us to lynch you.

Quote this post if you think some player has a power that releases you.

Quote this post if it will be removed after Day 1 automatically.
These should be in separate posts, no?

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Uuh, let the guessing begin!

I'll start.. Ins, I think it's totally okay if you just start talking normally. I mean, I would allow it. Your post restriction is gone now!

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I tried to ask Ins if he knew a way out of this, but he didn't answer.

Ins, quote this post if there is something we can do to rid you of this horrible spell!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 11:43:42 am »
Eevee, do you believe that during the Robz lynch there were two scum on the wagon then?
I don't have a strong opinion whether they both were on it or just one of them. Feels ~equally likely to me.

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"You are town. If you survive until end-game, you will make a costly mistake, and your team will lose. Have fun with this role, you deserve it!" This is going to be awesome.

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Hell freaking yeah!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 11:26:23 am »
I'm not at all sure about ashersky. But he sure is acting scummy! Seriously guys, read that last post!!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 11:25:12 am »
I haven't claimed anything, I try to hold off because I don't really see this life-threatening just yet. Got to protect the meta!

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10. cayvie  - Simpsons, Must be friendly

So cayvie is Ned Flanders. XD
Can not imagine that being a scum role. But this is bastard mafia so dunno. MAYBE CAYVIE IS AN EVIL CULT!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:38:11 am »
^ Not all hammering obviously, but hammering when the deadline is still far and there is still obviously lots of talking to do.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:35:47 am »
If you lynch a townie (like me) and someone dies at night, there'll be two mafias and three townies alive tomorrow. Is the case on me compelling enough to risk that? How many of you think today's lynch target has been found?

Well - at least 2 have - and thats what makes me nervous.  Personally - I feel its way too early in the day to have someone at L-2, but I guess as long as one of those people is morgrim we're safer.
I don't really see it as a threat. It will be a problem if anyone votes for me now, but I'll say this one more time Hammering, whether you claim it was accidental or not, will be considered a scum action. Do not throw the decisive vote until town is absolutely ready! No cutting days short. Also, don't put anyone in L-1 unless you are absolutely sure you want it, better be safe than sorry. Saying something like "I would vote for him and probably will later, but.." will be sufficient, unless you try to weasel out of it in a scummy way later.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:32:38 am »
I was checking the thread with my phone, that's why I was confused about the amount of votes. You can notice the fact I was on phone from the lack of capitalization and also from me telling you. I think that's an excellent example of a mistake that is not at all scummy.. seriously, what on earth do you figure I was thinking "Okay, I'm going to pretend I'm at L-1, surely no one will notice I'm actually not!!". Makes absolutely no sense, does it?

Oh and you think me derailing the lynch of a confirmed townie (robz) by trying to introduce a new target (you) is scummy now? Uh?

Vote: ashersky, sorry buddy you are looking like you want to make me look bad even though you have nothing. Neither of those things is AT ALL damning!

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