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GokoDom / Re: IsoDom 3 Round 1

« on: January 31, 2012, 02:57:18 pm »

PSUmvp vs DrHades: PSUmvp wins 4-3.

Epic match, very balanced.  I got two hail mary wins in games 3 and 7.  Fun match, I was outplayed by DrHades, but got lucky on the end game draws.

I agree that it was epic, balanced and fun match. I disagree that I outplayed you 

DrHades 37 - 29  http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201201/31/game-20120131-103058-279c7c44.html
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I think my strategy was a bit better here, but let's not spoil it since others will play it.

PSUmvp 33 - 9 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201201/31/game-20120131-104039-952f3226.html
lookout to thin the deck, Horse Traders to gather peddlers and Grand market + throne room to hammer it home

CRUSHED!!!!!!! I was seriously embarrassed after this game. PSUmvp was a bit lucky with Throne Rooms not missing, but still, he was better by a class (or 3) here...

PSUmvp 41 - 40 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201201/31/game-20120131-104639-4035bc13.html
Boring game with no power cards, general straight money.  End game dancing with prov stack down to 2.  Lucky end with jester hitting an estate for a 1 point victory

Mirror, lady luck was with PSUmvp this time. Nothing really interesting here...

DrHades 34 - 22 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201201/31/game-20120131-105757-b1892e61.html
IGG, end game , duchies ran out while PSUmvp was down, unable to claw back in...  probably didnt take enough treasure

Very interesting game. I thought that this was going to be an IGG rush mirror, but PSUmvp tried to build an Alchemist engine. That was very good idea I think, but he missed to buy some treasures somewhere...and then again - if he bought them, he wouldn't have so good engine running, so my choice to go for stupid IGG-Develop rush was probably a good choice after all.

PSUmvp 33 - 20 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201201/31/game-20120131-110751-f4f2f62b.html
Double tacitian cycle with Swindler Moneylender & minion.  Embargo end game on duchies

CRUSHED!!!!!!! For the second time in the match, PSUmvp build a very nice engine that I didn't see.

DrHades 49 - 41 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201201/31/game-20120131-111616-67d5a617.html
Tunnel cycle with horse traders, LOTS OF GOLD for DrHades

Ok, so I am down 2-3 and need to win both the games. I see Tunnel is on the board. I don't like Tunnel. But for some reasons, I know how to play it (I have the highest "win rate when available" rating with Tunnel). I think the main difference between our strategies here was that I wanted the Tunnels before they are gone, so I bought a lots of them very quickly. That gave me more Golds and also 8 point lead. The endgame was pretty exicitng, but I think I deserved to win this one (maybe PSUmvp should try to break the PPR somewhere).

PSUmvp 39 - 38 http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201201/31/game-20120131-112419-e2497810.html
Talisman + highway to enable a stables cycle to get to possession.  Miracle end game with crappy draws by DrHades and key possessions to steal provinces. 23 to 1 run over the last 4 turns

Not sure how Highway+Talisman stands on this board, but I think pure BM+Stables(+Merchant ship) might have upper hand. PSUmvp risked buying a potion for Possession, so I was greening a bit faster. Then he had just a terrible luck (then again - I think he was pretty unlucky in the begging since it took him a very long time to make the engine running):

What I bought on my last 3 turns: Estate, Trade Route, nothing.
What PSUmvp bought when I was Possessed: Duchy, Tunnel, Province.

And I need to add that he could have bought Duchy instead of Tunnel, but didn't want to play my Merchant Ship 

ABOUT THE MATCH IN GENERAL:

I played bad. I was really nervous so I didn't want to make any mistake. Therefore I was looking for BM-ish decks rather than for engines. This costed me game 2 and 5 where PSUmvp totally crushed me. I won games 1, 4 and 6 by choosing a little better strategy, game 3 was a coinflip and game 7? I don't know...PSUmvp had a really good idea that didn't work out and then just a Possession MEGAluck...hard to say whether the game was a coinflip or whether I was pretty unlucky.

Hopefully, I will take my lesson from this match and return to building engines more often (I was an engine builder, but this forum and my own experiences changed my game a LOT)...

Thanks, PSUmvp, it was a pleasure playing with you.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: What is Jack of all Trades a bad defense for?

« on: January 31, 2012, 12:00:41 pm »

1. Mountebank gives you a lots of coppers, which is a big problem with JoaT (you will have lots of Coppers, lots of Silvers and therefore lots of problems to get to 8$).

2. The fact that JoaT is a great counter against cursing attacks doesn't mean that DoubleJack will defeat an engine that uses cursing attack or even pure Curser-BM: DoubleWitch crushes DoubleJack 60-38...

3. It is a bit better when you add link to the game so we can see the exact situation 

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Puzzles and Challenges / Lock your opponent

« on: January 30, 2012, 04:44:38 pm »

We all know the KC-Goons-Masquerade combo. But that doesn't always work, because Goons is an attack. So I wonder - is there a combo, that locks your opponent with 0 cards in hand 100%, every turn and no matter what reactions is he using?

Thoughts:

It probably cannot contain any attack played, cause then he should set aside HT. Also KC-Golem-Masquerade sounds nice, but I can't figure out how to make it 100% working on every turn...

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GokoDom / Re: IsoDom 3 Round 1 Kingdom Submissions

« on: January 29, 2012, 03:09:07 pm »

Can/should we talk about the chosen kingdom?

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Dominion Isotropic / Re: Level 6s pulling 4 provinces in 13 turns

« on: January 27, 2012, 08:39:19 pm »

6 Provinces in 15 turns by a level 0 (7.716 ± 9.886) guy??? What the hell???

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201201/27/game-20120127-173451-8a1eb16b.html

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Dominion Isotropic / Re: Decline of civility on isotropic?

« on: January 27, 2012, 08:11:24 pm »

So, uh, ready to play the bronze match, with 'tournament games only' as my status, in Secret Chamber, just had a guy propose several consecutive games to me (of course I declined), then say this:

18:52 KlanPower: PLAY ME MOTHERFUCKER
18:52 WanderingWinder: Dude, KlanPower
18:52 KlanPower: I'M BETTER THAN YOU
18:52 WanderingWinder: Chill
18:52 KlanPower: seriously
18:52 KlanPower: play my ass
18:52 WanderingWinder: whether you are or not, I'm here to play someone else
18:52 KlanPower: ill kick your black ass
18:52 WanderingWinder: as it says in my status
18:53 KlanPower: who gives a fuck
18:53 KlanPower: ill kick your ass so fast it wont even matter
18:53 KlanPower: you can get your pussyass tournament games in
18:53 NICKELBACK IS GOD: Anyone got tickets to the new Nickelback tour?
18:53 NICKELBACK IS GOD: I'M SO EXCITED!
18:53 KlanPower: nickelback sucks massive
18:53 KlanPower: dick
18:54 KlanPower: theyre just a shitty white boy band
18:54 NICKELBACK IS GOD: THEIR NOT A WHITE BOY BAND THERE HARD RAWK
18:54 zerovoice: ...
18:55 KlanPower: hey shut the fuck up faggot
18:55 zerovoice: ...
18:55 KlanPower: I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UP
18:55 zerovoice: ...
18:55 KlanPower: THE HOLOCAUST WAS EXAGGERATED
18:55 NICKELBACK IS GOD: I'M GONNA SING MY HEART'S SONG


And every yay-so-often, he's proposing a game again.

By far the worst thing I've ever seen on there. The dude's unregistered, if you were curious.

Oh, and then a couple minutes later:

zerovoice, NICKELBACK IS GOD, and KlanPower begin a game.

Yeah...

I wouldn't be surprised if it was just one really bored really sad person...

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Why on earth do people...(feel free to add your own)

« on: January 27, 2012, 04:33:42 pm »

For instance, the "Golden Deck" works because you get down to Bishop - Gold - Gold - Silver - Province as your deck, and then each turn you trash Province and buy Province.  You're "losing" VP, but think of it instead as gaining 5VP a turn while running down the Provinces.

Out of curiosity, why is this considered the standard "Golden Deck"? Isn't it easier to get to Bishop - Gold - Silver - Silver - Province? Unless it's just because there's less Gold in the easier to achieve version.

Beeing able to buy a new Province without trashing the old one is sometimes very handy...

Sometimes your hand is Gold, Gold, Bishop, Province, Copper. What other choice do you have?

Trash a Copper buy a Gold. You prepare yourself to buy the new Province and not trashing the old one and also you are able to trash a Gold and buy a Gold in your next turn.

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Dominion Isotropic / Re: Attention-whoring thread.... I did it!!

« on: January 27, 2012, 09:35:12 am »

I can't figure out how to view older versions of the leaderboard. Could someone help me out? I would love to see my all time high which must have been sometime during late 2010 or early 2011.

You just change the date in the link that is here

levels...pfff...mean skill is the thing guys, level is for noobs :-)

Unlucky, that I didnt reach the 60,0 mark some time ago, only got to 59,7 (before my match against RisingJaguar).

Some weeks ago Dekker had a skill over 60, but +-23 deviation

I totally agree - better player has a better skill. The fact that he doesn't play so much as others doesn't really matter...but I don't know, Elo's system has some really big problems which TrueSkill maybe doesn't, so maybe TS is better...

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Dominion Isotropic / Re: Attention-whoring thread.... I did it!!

« on: January 26, 2012, 01:37:15 pm »

Speaking of attention whoring, has there ever been a (non-cheating) level 48 on isotropic? I can't remember seeing one, and I've looked at the leaderboard on most days for the last 10 months.

yup. jonts26 did it back in november.  he was at 48 for four days just before doug changed the leaderboard for a few weeks.

Wait...are you saying that I can look at the old leaderboards??? THAT IS SO COOL!!!

BtW: While exploring this, I ran into a level 49 - http://bggdl.square7.ch/leaderboard/leaderboard-2011-10-19.html It might be a cheat though...

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: 2 Cards, 2 Turns, X Provinces

« on: January 26, 2012, 07:04:39 am »

a) 4 Pirate ship, but I don't know how to make more than taking a +buy and then buy 4 Provinces
b) 8 I start KC-Bridge, buy 2 Bridges. My opponent plays Village, Village, Torturer (I discard), Torturer (I discard), Masquerade (he sents KC, I sent nothing). Turn 2 - KC-KC-Bridge-Bridge-Bridge

And I have no idea, how the hell are you able to get 4 or even 3 in the original puzzle  But I will try to find it...

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Dominion in xkcd?

« on: January 25, 2012, 12:03:05 pm »

I thought the same thing, but I'm too lazy to make an account on the xkcd forum to go after it

http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=79899

Too lazy to read this too? 

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Dominion Isotropic / Re: Attention-whoring thread.... I did it!!

« on: January 25, 2012, 09:57:14 am »

I would also like to thank you all for wonderful articles and great games!

On the last Saturday I was at my very first IRL Dominion tournament and I won all 5 rounds, defeating even the reigning champion of my country (Czech Republic)!

I mean...level 30 was nice for me, but see that I can now beat players IRL that I couldn't before is AWESOME!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you all!

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Really bad card ideas

« on: January 24, 2012, 11:05:13 pm »

Chuck Testa
$5 Action

Secretly take a Dominion card that is not in the supply. Put it in front of you with with Chuck Testa under it and say "I play name of the card."
If noone reacts, play that card.
If anyone says "Wait...are we even playing with name of the card?" say "Nope, Chuck Testa.", reveal Chuck Testa and get +1 action and +1 card.

works well with tournament prizes (and tournament in play) :-)

Also with Black Market...but I am not sure whether would Chuck want to be associated with something illegal

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Really bad card ideas

« on: January 24, 2012, 08:33:24 pm »

No Bless
$2 Action - Duration

Choose one: +2 Cards; or +1 Action

While this is in play, noone can play Bishop and Chapel.


Fireworks
$4 Action

Gain a card costing up to $4

Ask player to your left if he ever feels like a plastic bag. If the anwser is...
Yes, +1 action
No, +$1
Kinda, +1 card


Chuck Testa
$5 Action

Secretly take a Dominion card that is not in the supply. Put it in front of you with with Chuck Testa under it and say "I play name of the card."
If noone reacts, play that card.
If anyone says "Wait...are we even playing with name of the card?" say "Nope, Chuck Testa.", reveal Chuck Testa and get +1 action and +1 card.

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GokoDom / Re: IsoDom 3 Round 1 Kingdom Submissions

« on: January 24, 2012, 08:12:26 am »

Is it possible to make the voting system in a way so I can vote for 1 I want and for 1 I don't? Or maybe even better - sort the 5 kingdoms and send you preferences? Because I think it is more likely that there will be a board I will hate than I board I will love

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Dominion Isotropic / Re: People to avoid on isotropic

« on: January 24, 2012, 07:54:57 am »

I would like to Remake his Curse words into nothing.

FTFY

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Dominion Isotropic / Re: Funny Things on Isotropic

« on: January 24, 2012, 07:48:59 am »

There is one name I really love - "Sadly, she". Things like "Sadly, she plays a Witch" or "Sadly, she reveals a Province" (to your tournament) and of course "Sadly, she wins!" are hilarious.

I just met a guy named "It is you who accidentaly" (and there is also a guy without the last word). Also funny, but "Sadly, she" is better 

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: Dominion broke my mouse

« on: January 24, 2012, 07:18:28 am »

Really annoying is Goons+Talismans: "Do you want another copy of the card first or the VP first?" "For the 5th time - I DON'T CARE!!! JESUS!!!"

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: THE Dominion Card List(s): $5 cards Part 1/3 posted

« on: January 23, 2012, 03:15:00 pm »

Very reasonable list.  I only had two cards lower than any of these (Rabble at 36 and Merchant Ship at 38), and I'm pretty sure I just got those wrong.

The $5 cards are really good for the most part.  This batch is so-so, but basically every card above this is almost always a strong positive in a deck and most have game-changing potential in the right circumstances.

I agree with Merchant Ship, but Rabble??? Rabble is strong! Very strong! Isn't? Guys, what do you think of Rabble?

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Goko Dominion Online / Re: Official(?) Dominion App Available on iTunes

« on: January 23, 2012, 01:35:51 pm »

The only thing stopping such an operation is peoples respect for you as the designer - and I would have a lot more for you if you would stop being so secretive.

lolwut? http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=14.0

Concerning the app, I think anybody who has followed this topic a little bit on this board should have recognized that the development of this app is in the hand of someone else. This includes marketing and announcements (by contract or courtesy or whatever). So Donald told us what he thinks he can tell us without angering the developers, and every complain concerning this app belongs to them. This of course is difficult, as you don't know who they are, but maybe just make a list and send it to them once you know it?

Good job quoting out of context DStu.
Speaking of secretive, how about this: http://gamesandgrub.blogspot.com/
According to that page, development on the official version didn't even start until this fall - despite the previous expected release date of end of 2011.

Oh my god! He did warn as in advance that Isotropic will be closing! Can you believe it?! He's a villain indeed...

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GokoDom / Re: IsoDom 3 Qualifier

« on: January 23, 2012, 12:45:56 pm »

I was curious about levels of the participants, so I looked at the leaderboard. If anyone else is interested, I might save somebody like 10 minutes of life or something  (and maybe someone will fill the blind spots)

1. Fabian (45)
2. Geronimoo (44)
3. Rabid (41)
4. RisingJaguar (42)
5. olneyce (41)
6. PerdHappley (39)
7. Smartie (39)
8. michaeljb (38)
9. shark_bait (38)
10. Captain Frisk (37)
11. tlloyd (37)
12. Lespeutere (37)
13. KristianBahle (35)
14. PSUmvp (34)
15. greatexpectations (34)
16. Robz888 (33)
17. Lekkit (33)
18. DrHades (34)
19. DG (33)
20. Volkmar (31)
21. Kirian (31)

22. JanErik (29) VS Qvist (27)
23. Eevee (31) VS Mad Max (13)
24. A_S00 (29) VS Festuca (?)
25. Young Nick (29) VS Brando Commando (?)
26. Socrates (27) VS Dubdubdubdub (17)
27. rspeer (28) VS MORIN FTW (7)
28 Lionel (27) VS Marcus316 (13)
29. FerrousWheel (28) VS jimjam (18)
30. Yuma (26) VS ^_^_^_^ (17)
31 MonsterBrick (25) VS ccasin (20)
32 Glooble (26) VS Mad Mergus (24)

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GokoDom / Re: IsoDom 3 Round 1 Kingdom Submissions

« on: January 23, 2012, 09:31:01 am »

What does the theme mean? Is it like an optional thing for us when we are making the preset kingdom?

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GokoDom / Re: IsoDom 3 Qualifier

« on: January 23, 2012, 09:00:42 am »

The final eleven seeds will be determined by the outcomes of the following matches...

I assume the seeds will be 1-32, 2-31, ... , 16-17, so 5 matches are clear to be seeded like this, right?

lespeutere (12) vs. Kirian (21)
KristianBahle (13) vs. Volkmar (20)
PSUmvp (14) vs. DG (19)
greatexpectations (15) vs. DrHades (18)
Robz888 (16) vs. Lekkit (17)

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: THE Dominion Card List(s): $5 cards Part 1/3 posted

« on: January 23, 2012, 08:22:25 am »

#36 Mint (my rank: #22) - Now this is something! Mint, the ultimate copper-trasher, that gives me a nice bonus afterwards? I mean, yes, it is better in BM-ish decks than in engines, but I think it is decent even when its targets are just Golds and Silvers and the fun starts with cards like Platinum, Harem, Hoard, Venture and IGG...

That's maybe one of its problems: The Copper trashing is actually not that great in BM games, it helps way more in engine strategies. The other effect however is way more useful in BM games, whereas it sometimes becomes a dead card in big action chains.

Trashing is not so powerfull in BM-decks, but it is more because it slows you down on the turns you have to use it and then it's a dead card. Here you use it just once and then it is a superb card...I agree that BM doesn't mind having the Coppers, but it doesn't mind not having them either...

About Mandarin - I agree with what you said. But even with all that it is better than Harvest or Tribute for me...

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: THE Dominion Card List(s): $5 cards Part 1/3 posted

« on: January 23, 2012, 07:43:20 am »

What surprised me:

#42 Mandarin (my rank: #34) - Mandarin is strong as an opener (if there is anything else for $5 on the table) and very good in the endgame (for reasons Qvist said). And in the mid-game - what is wrong about a terminal Gold? The ability helps about the same number of times it hurts so I think Mandarin is a pretty decent card...of course the competition at $5 is very good, but Mandrin has so many uses that I think it deserves a higher place.

#36 Mint (my rank: #22) - Now this is something! Mint, the ultimate copper-trasher, that gives me a nice bonus afterwards? I mean, yes, it is better in BM-ish decks than in engines, but I think it is decent even when its targets are just Golds and Silvers and the fun starts with cards like Platinum, Harem, Hoard, Venture and IGG...

Then again - I discovered, that by the time I made the list I didn't know how to use Inn, IGG and Venture properly (as for Inn I still don't know), but still - Mint would be #25 which is 11 higher...