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Space?

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I'm here. Military but would move my vote basically anywhere to stop a mix exile

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ADK, can you remind us why you wanted to be VP? It's become more clear than you're military. I know that my though process (and I read the same thing in Didd's lack of desire to be VP when MiX had asked) was being miltary and being unsure of the turning point, I was not interested. Especially with MiX as President, as his play style could easily lend him to getting brigged. (in fact, I think the only thing saving him right now from being brigged is the fact that he's the president)

So why is it you put your name in the running?

This is an entirely reasonable question! That I'm not going to answer

Why do you defy your own president's platform:

Answering questions is fun and helpful which helps all alignments involved.

I was added to the ticket to appeal to heartland voters, we actually disagree on several key policy points

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This is treading into dangerous water, but:

I have information, accessible only to me, that makes me strongly believe mix is town

If you think I'm town, and you trust my judgement, you won't exile mix

Do you specifically believe MiX is town, or just that he's not Cylon aligned?

I ask because not for the first time this game, the fact he's explicitly mentioning the possibility of third-party or traitor mechanics (see his recent criticism of Jack) makes me wonder what particular information he's got that makes him go into extra detail relating to those possibilities.

I specifically believe he's town

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ADK, can you remind us why you wanted to be VP? It's become more clear than you're military. I know that my though process (and I read the same thing in Didd's lack of desire to be VP when MiX had asked) was being miltary and being unsure of the turning point, I was not interested. Especially with MiX as President, as his play style could easily lend him to getting brigged. (in fact, I think the only thing saving him right now from being brigged is the fact that he's the president)

So why is it you put your name in the running?

This is an entirely reasonable question! That I'm not going to answer

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This is treading into dangerous water, but:

I have information, accessible only to me, that makes me strongly believe mix is town

If you think I'm town, and you trust my judgement, you won't exile mix

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Vote: Jack Rudd

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I will say that MiX’s style is often bossy which reads as controlling even if he’s not actually controlling anything.
There is a different feel this time. More omnipotent than usual.

I can see that. The hole “I’m not as invested in town winning as usual” is very strange. Is he third party? He’s definitely not pro-town

I have a theory that he gets legacy points based on how long the game lasts

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I think controlling!MiX is more likely to be scum!MiX.

How exactly is mix being "controlling"?

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I leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide whether this is a full vote or a tiebreaker vote, but

Vote: MiX

With MiX being hard to read, I'm not yet sure I have a strong enough pull to vote this way. But I would be OK with ADK as the next president.

ADK would rather have mix stay president

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Anyway this kind of got swept under the rug but no one has protested so

Undergo Testing

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anyway, yeah, my votes don't matter again

I am extremely sorry and am also kind of frustrated by not really being able to vote

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The following executive order has been selected:

Quote
Civilian jurisdiction
Today, an exile will occur even if the game ends without a majority on a player. At the end of this day, the exile is the player with the most civilian votes rather than the player with the most votes.

@faust, can you clarify which is the correct interpretation?
The exile is always the player with the most civilian votes, even if the Day end is caused by another player reaching enough votes to exile.

I also misinterpreted this, and would not have suggested that mix pick if I had realized how it actually worked

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I'm willing to be tested if no one else objects

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Prod: ash

By the way, apparently I can only change vice presidents at night, so I guess I missed my chance.

So, who here has scum reads that aren't scola?

Robz, EFHW, dylan. I would exile any of them

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I'm here. Sad town!Awaclus is gone, but I'm glad I read him correctly yesterday.

I haven't caught up on what's been said today yet besides checking the flip, but I'll catch up tomorrow (irl). Based on yesterday and the flip:

Vote: scola

See I think the opposite. I know it's WIFOM but too me awaclus being killed makes it seem like someone is hoping for a scola misexile

Where I'm at personally is

vote: robz

I mean, I get that it's WIFOM, but if Awaclus was given the choice to join scum and instead chose town, I could see scum killing him just because of that rather than anything to do with Scola at all

In that case why does awaclus flipping town implicate scola?

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I'm here. Sad town!Awaclus is gone, but I'm glad I read him correctly yesterday.

I haven't caught up on what's been said today yet besides checking the flip, but I'll catch up tomorrow (irl). Based on yesterday and the flip:

Vote: scola

See I think the opposite. I know it's WIFOM but too me awaclus being killed makes it seem like someone is hoping for a scola misexile

Where I'm at personally is

vote: robz

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I know it seems too good to be true... but given 2 shot investigative Awa had I am sticking with

Vote: Pasta

I will pull the quotes later

I'm pretty sure awaclus being killed makes pasta town

Oh, you're saying that awaclus may have had some sort of result on scola. I'll have to go back and read awaclus to see if that makes sense but man I have to hope that awaclus would have claimed that when it looked like we were going to no-exile again

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I know it seems too good to be true... but given 2 shot investigative Awa had I am sticking with

Vote: Pasta

I will pull the quotes later

I'm pretty sure awaclus being killed makes pasta town

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Hi everyone! Oh Awaclus was town? Dammit, they were my top scumread. Back to the drawing board I guess.

What do people think of the current executive orders? How would you rank them, from most useful to least useful today?

And does anyone want to be the vice president now? I can change from ADK.

I nominate ash

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swowl, did you not shoot?

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If two players who don't have neighborhood-style powers end up in a neighborhood with each other and neither player owns up to making that happen, I think one of the is probably mafia.

Do you think that one of them is lying about not creating the neighborhood? What would be the purpose of that?

To hide being mafia.

I'm thinking of the role where one mafia and one town are in a neighborhood and if the mafia dies, so does the town player.  yuma and I used it in the Modern Community game.  Can't recall the name right now.

I don't think "can make a neighborhood with another player" is an ability that's more likely to be a scum role than a town role, and I wouldn't assume most other players would think that either. RMM offers so many opportunities to get caught in a lie that I can't imagine scum would lie about something like that for little to no benefit

If town had such an ability, they would target themselves and claim to that person. Besides, why pick LL and scola? I think it's more likely that LL and scola are connected by flavor; or that someone that either does not have a choice or is not playing for town made the QT.

Right, but what ash is positing is that one of ash or LL is scum, created the neighborhood, and then decided to lie about that fact

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If two players who don't have neighborhood-style powers end up in a neighborhood with each other and neither player owns up to making that happen, I think one of the is probably mafia.

Do you think that one of them is lying about not creating the neighborhood? What would be the purpose of that?

To hide being mafia.

I'm thinking of the role where one mafia and one town are in a neighborhood and if the mafia dies, so does the town player.  yuma and I used it in the Modern Community game.  Can't recall the name right now.

I don't think "can make a neighborhood with another player" is an ability that's more likely to be a scum role than a town role, and I wouldn't assume most other players would think that either. RMM offers so many opportunities to get caught in a lie that I can't imagine scum would lie about something like that for little to no benefit

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If two players who don't have neighborhood-style powers end up in a neighborhood with each other and neither player owns up to making that happen, I think one of the is probably mafia.

Do you think that one of them is lying about not creating the neighborhood? What would be the purpose of that?

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<Didds case>

Vote: LaLight


Sure, go ahead.
I'm not sure how much we can trust your weak reason to trust pasta.

I would say as much as you can trust the Cylon machine :)

I mean, well, ok. Me and pasta had a neighbourhood throughout the Night 1. There wasn't really anything that could point at them being town, but the general felling I got was that they are one.

It would make a lot of sense if one of you were scum!

PPE 1

No, because as said above none of us actually made that neighbourhood. I mean I didn't do it and scola claims they didn't, I am inclined to believe them, just because i got that feeling they were surprised as much as I was.

I was actually thinking someone made this neighbourhood for us so we both would suspect each other and that's why I don't want to suspect them. I know, WIFOM exists, but still.

Do you know whether it was made by player action or not? Why would putting two people in a neighborhood together make them suspect each other?

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