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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:39:34 am »
Ultimately though, if I am picking a player I find most likely to be skum... it is still E!.

We have been picking players most likely to be scum all game. And lynching town

Maybe we should try lynching the IC
;D

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:39:02 am »
Ok. I am not super digging the 2.7 read. I think I was taking what everyone else was saying and applying it as my reads (as if I were the consensus) but I went back and saw my thoughts about 2.7 yesterday and I don't really want to go that route.

My gut still wants to do LaLight, but I see the logic on why we should wait, but man... have we even assessed his claim reliability? If this is our last shot to get mafia I would rather go with someone I feel scummy about than a shot in the dark.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:31:46 am »
I can admit that having on thing to point to which supposedly solves the game is enticing to me, but e was reading scummy in the rest of my reread as well, so I'm feeling pretty solid on this

I basically trust that you're town at this point yuma, so if you'd like to make an alternate case I'm open to hearing it
That is nice. I don't have an alternate case. Based off what I remember and what I see from 2.7 today I would likely vote for him. But I am not ready to vote until I have thought my way through that. I just take a bit longer to think. I know that waiting isn't fun though.

I have been trying to do a search all and then just look at my posts, but my computer is struggling... Maybe I need to try the print screen mode...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:29:22 am »
Almost as if they had been making plans in the scum thread the whole game, based on that misunderstanding
OK. I can see what you are saying more. It could be an explanation, but I don't like finding people scummy for misunderstanding the setup. These setups aren't exactly simple and have multi-faceted rules.

Misunderstanding the setup isn't scummy. Two players having the exact same misunderstanding, which gives a clear cut explanation for why an IC has survived so long, is pretty scummy in my book
Sure. I think it can be part of a vote, but the way everyone jumped onto it quickly (I guess just LaLight and WCD) made me feel it was being overstated as a reason for scumminess. We are at mylo right? And sitting at L-1.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:19:17 am »
Almost as if they had been making plans in the scum thread the whole game, based on that misunderstanding
OK. I can see what you are saying more. It could be an explanation, but I don't like finding people scummy for misunderstanding the setup. These setups aren't exactly simple and have multi-faceted rules.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 15, 2020, 12:12:11 am »
Did a reread, scum is e/swowl

No Lynch here is pointless.

Scum obviously think adk is a restless spirit and I am inclined to agree.

No Lynch, ADK dies, and we are right back to where we are today except ADK can't talk in thread.

Vote: LaLight

But my reads have been crap. Will say LaLight probably had the greatest consensus just never got the votes. I should have stuck on them longer rather than flip back to mail-mi

Quote fail

I think you have it backwards, a Restless Spirit would not be told whether or not they were a converted UB. I'm a UB, therefore I'm not a restless spirit

homie I think you have it backwards?

I know that faust hates mod quoting so I am not doing it but the OP clearly states "if UB converts to RS due to a solo V, the player won't be told".
Also, the game starts with a UB, but not necessarily a RS, so you def have it backwards.

i.e.... you should of gotten a role pm saying that you were the UB as they are GTD to be in the game. Then the letters were rolled. If that roll came up with 1 V-roll, you would then be turned into a RS and not be informed of it.

can someone else please read the op and tell me I am not on crack?

They believed there was a possibility that I was a secret restless spirit that got a UB PM, which is why they weren't killing me

vote: e
Ok. I actually looked at this. I don't think it is that big of a deal. The way everyone voted after it made it seem like it was the nail in the coffin, but it seems more synchronicity of misunderstanding.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 11:37:36 pm »
So is yuma town now as well e?

who would you like to answer this question?

It was meant more sarcastically then anything. But do you have an opinion?

I do... but I would out any potential plans, if that makes sense, by giving them. Which I am fine with, but want to make sure we are on the same page first.

I am not on the same page and have no idea what you're talking about
Yeah... what is going on? Swowl how was the beer garden?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 11:36:44 pm »
So is yuma town now as well e?
I am. But I am?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 10:38:15 pm »
I still haven't gone back and read more so am not ready to vote yet.

Guys, that might be a couple of days. I want to say wait for me to do things, but that isn't fair as I think others are reading this game with more clarity than I am...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 10:33:51 pm »
ADK - care to set a claim order?

Like not that we need to do it right now... but you know, as long as you are still around and all. Probably the best way to establish one in case it happens.

e, swowl, yuma, lalight, didds

e claimed vt
swolw claimed vt
lalight claimed watcher (early, why was that?)
didds hasn't claimed.

I am a vanilla townie

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 10:30:37 pm »
I am strongly in favor of a Yuma Lynch at this point, will wait for more reactions to the claim
Also I am failing to see the connection between LaLight's reveal and your wanting to vote for me. Just that LaLight is off the table?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 10:29:57 pm »
I am strongly in favor of a Yuma Lynch at this point, will wait for more reactions to the claim
I agree with your statement about putting off a LaLight lynch. Other than that I am not really interested in stating my read on LaLight.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 10:28:45 pm »
But really, we were working mislynch vs. mislynch vs. mislynch all of D2/D3.

Scum could sit back and relax.  Looking for acti-lurkers here (Yuma, anyone)

I mean that means there was a HELL of a day 1 bus. Do you really think that is that likely? Considering you hammered right? so If you are town that means they all went there or sat there knowing all these town players could just hammer for the day 1 lynch. how does that like... make sense?

Look at LaLight's last post for D1. Look at how many votes were on Joseph at the time.

They never meant to bus like they did, but will take the town cred for it

then again, no.

I was inline at the wnd of the day and didn't post.
I don't think you have mentioned before that you were online, but didn't post during that time. Why?

because this is unprovable
Sorry I was unclear. I meant to ask why you didn't post during that time. I mean you aren't under any sort of obligation to post during that time, but it was a long chunk and significant events had happened. You are saying you could have, but didn't post then? That is my why?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 02:43:58 am »
But that is all I'll say. I mean 6 posts is enough on the subject....

Right? Or do we need more?

okie dokie. what would you like to talk about?
Well... now that you have asked me about it.

I also don't really have an opinion about mass claiming. I think it is more fun, so I am generally in favor, but I don't know if it is good/bad for town here and I am not interested in figuring that out. If someone else wants to or has reasons against I'll read them.

But again, generally in favor cause mass claims are fun.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 02:42:16 am »
Yuma, who do you think is scum?
I don't know. I know my reads were on you and LaLight yesterday. But I need to actually go back and assess that based off what I know based off flip and kill because I don't completely remember what those things were and how they relate to what has changed. To be honest I am not going to try and do that until we either do no lynch or decide we aren't going to do no lynch.

So I don't know at this point.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 01:21:23 am »
We don't need more.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 01:21:14 am »
But that is all I'll say. I mean 6 posts is enough on the subject....

Right? Or do we need more?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 01:20:47 am »
Like after every night, it takes me a couple of days to get back to what was going and catch up. I am not interested in getting even further less involved in this game and being able to remember what was going on.

But I understand that if it is an actual town benefit then we can do it, it is just boring and probably unlikely to get the result that we want.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 01:18:06 am »
But it is boooorrrring

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 14, 2020, 01:00:47 am »
And no lynch only makes sense if we have equal suspicion (statistically of everyone), right? Otherwise we will just be giving mafia a chance to kill off a strong town voice. Like yes, I understand the math, that forcing scum to eliminate one of the options is nice.

But right now the options aren't all equal. And I still don't think we can actually force scum to kill, right?

??????????

In what world do we no lynch and they do not kill?
If we are no lynching to benefit town, then the right scum move is to prevent that, right?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 13, 2020, 10:50:45 pm »
ADK - care to set a claim order?

Like not that we need to do it right now... but you know, as long as you are still around and all. Probably the best way to establish one in case it happens.

e, swowl, yuma, lalight, didds

are we doing this? I am fine with it, just want to clarify.

Just double checking with town to make sure you don't ruffle any feathers? Don't want to go and get yourself lynched branching out and doing your own thing.

Maybe you are scum after all...
vote: E

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 13, 2020, 10:48:27 pm »
But really, we were working mislynch vs. mislynch vs. mislynch all of D2/D3.

Scum could sit back and relax.  Looking for acti-lurkers here (Yuma, anyone)

I mean that means there was a HELL of a day 1 bus. Do you really think that is that likely? Considering you hammered right? so If you are town that means they all went there or sat there knowing all these town players could just hammer for the day 1 lynch. how does that like... make sense?

Look at LaLight's last post for D1. Look at how many votes were on Joseph at the time.

They never meant to bus like they did, but will take the town cred for it

then again, no.

I was inline at the wnd of the day and didn't post.
I don't think you have mentioned before that you were online, but didn't post during that time. Why?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 13, 2020, 10:45:51 pm »
And no lynch only makes sense if we have equal suspicion (statistically of everyone), right? Otherwise we will just be giving mafia a chance to kill off a strong town voice. Like yes, I understand the math, that forcing scum to eliminate one of the options is nice.

But right now the options aren't all equal. And I still don't think we can actually force scum to kill, right?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 13, 2020, 10:43:26 pm »
And no lynch is boring and I have inherently against things that make the game boring.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« on: June 13, 2020, 10:42:50 pm »
I will keep asking this question until I get an answer, but how exactly can we force scum to kill? If we can't cause that to happen then I see no lynch as a stall that probably only benefits scum.

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